2004 BAND RANKINGS PT. II


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The Best Band

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Man i couldnt let this die........


I know that we will give our own opinion of who is the top 3 on band rankings, but we go on about who is and who is not a power band. Maybe we need to have 2 different categories 1. Power Band 2. Musicality.

And you all know as well as i do, when most bands become a power band they are no longer a musical band with dynamics and so on. Most band styles are not designed for power.

You say that we are in our rebuilding stage, true enought maybe, but with in our rebuilding, we will keep our own tradition and style.

Most bands when they do fall off, they tend to grasp or obtain someone else's style.

our band program started in 1926, and we have had the same tradition for over 75 years. Most other bands have fell off and stole some one else's style.



not putting down any one, but look at many bands that chose to give up there own style and went to some one else's style.

Valley -- they use to be core style and they use to be a power band in there sound and marching was superb. but they decides to go Show Style. When they did that, it wasnt a pretty picture. But it does take a while to make a major comeback.

Alcorn -- Now many of you have known that Alcorn is or was a copy cat band. Even last year one of the drum major's came on here and apologized to many of our band, cause their band was going to display all our band summed up in to one band. But over this past year and there band camp, they have displayed that they can hold there own sound and style.

UAPB -- They are a good band, they are superb in the stands, but there field shows are copied from others past shows. Stay with your own shows and style, and dont let new people come in and change you for nothing.

TXSU -- They was good 2 years ago, and they are about to fall of the field, quickly if some one dont take control of there power sound. This band is load as hell, but its like there is a war going on between the sections. When you percussion is loader then your own band, its time for reconstruction. BASS DRUMS, you are not a Drum and Bugle corp. KILL IT!!!! They are tryna be SU, Jackson and Grambling in one. One good thing i can stay bout them, Torture is a good ass power tune.

PVAMU -- PLease stay with your musical style you have had in the past years cause if you dont you will end up sounding likw TXSU.

BAMA ST. -- This band has made a major come back, many of you didnt no that they did fall off. When many bands change directors or a whole staff at one time, the band member will leave cause they dont want to get caught up in the kaos. And thats what happened to BAMA STATE. WHen we went to Swac championship in 2001, i asked on the ASU band members why there band was so small (68+ members) and he told me about the administrative change. And like i was sayin when they changed the band changed as well.


CANT SAY NOTHING ABOUT AAMU because i have never heard them, actually i have never seen them, can some one please find a clip on this band, so i can hear what they sound like.

But people stay with your own style and if you have an original style, please go back to that,

Just remember one thing, we can be duplicated but never imatated!!!!!!
 
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The Best Band said:
Man i couldnt let this die........



Valley -- they use to be core style and they use to be a power band in there sound and marching was superb. but they decides to go Show Style. When they did that, it wasnt a pretty picture. But it does take a while to make a major comeback.
:uhoh: Are you sure about your facts? To my knowledge,....back in the early days,....the only power band there was were Southern and just maybe Tx Southern. The rest had a symphonic sound.

Just remember one thing, we can be duplicated but never imatated!!!!!!
:smh: :lmao: No No No !!!! It's often imitated,...never duplicated!!!! Our announcer Dr. Williams always said that long before Southern started quoting it.

Work a little more on your facts please. :emlaugh:
 



Legend35 said:
:uhoh: :uhoh: Are you sure about your facts? To my knowledge,....back in the early days,....the only power band there was were Southern and just maybe Tx Southern. The rest had a symphonic sound.

:smh: :lmao: No No No !!!! It's often imitated,...never duplicated!!!! Our announcer Dr. Williams always said that long before Southern started quoting it.

Work a little more on your facts please. :emlaugh:
Leave that boy alone!!!! He's still young and dumb :hat: I notice he didn't say much about Gramblings I. D.
 
The Best Band said:
Man i couldnt let this die........


PVAMU -- PLease stay with your musical style you have had in the past years cause if you dont you will end up sounding likw TXSU.


Just remember one thing, we can be duplicated but never imatated!!!!!!


Legend, would you like to help this kid out a lil? Please do before he gets a musical education in this here thread.
 
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: PV sound like TxSu???????????? Thats crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Son, you would go a lot further in life if you DON'T say things like this!!! :shh:
The Best Band said:
Man i couldnt let this die........


I know that we will give our own opinion of who is the top 3 on band rankings, but we go on about who is and who is not a power band. Maybe we need to have 2 different categories 1. Power Band 2. Musicality.

And you all know as well as i do, when most bands become a power band they are no longer a musical band with dynamics and so on. Most band styles are not designed for power.

You say that we are in our rebuilding stage, true enought maybe, but with in our rebuilding, we will keep our own tradition and style.

Most bands when they do fall off, they tend to grasp or obtain someone else's style.

our band program started in 1926, and we have had the same tradition for over 75 years. Most other bands have fell off and stole some one else's style.



not putting down any one, but look at many bands that chose to give up there own style and went to some one else's style.

Valley -- they use to be core style and they use to be a power band in there sound and marching was superb. but they decides to go Show Style. When they did that, it wasnt a pretty picture. But it does take a while to make a major comeback.

Alcorn -- Now many of you have known that Alcorn is or was a copy cat band. Even last year one of the drum major's came on here and apologized to many of our band, cause their band was going to display all our band summed up in to one band. But over this past year and there band camp, they have displayed that they can hold there own sound and style.

UAPB -- They are a good band, they are superb in the stands, but there field shows are copied from others past shows. Stay with your own shows and style, and dont let new people come in and change you for nothing.

TXSU -- They was good 2 years ago, and they are about to fall of the field, quickly if some one dont take control of there power sound. This band is load as hell, but its like there is a war going on between the sections. When you percussion is loader then your own band, its time for reconstruction. BASS DRUMS, you are not a Drum and Bugle corp. KILL IT!!!! They are tryna be SU, Jackson and Grambling in one. One good thing i can stay bout them, Torture is a good ass power tune.

PVAMU -- PLease stay with your musical style you have had in the past years cause if you dont you will end up sounding likw TXSU.

BAMA ST. -- This band has made a major come back, many of you didnt no that they did fall off. When many bands change directors or a whole staff at one time, the band member will leave cause they dont want to get caught up in the kaos. And thats what happened to BAMA STATE. WHen we went to Swac championship in 2001, i asked on the ASU band members why there band was so small (68+ members) and he told me about the administrative change. And like i was sayin when they changed the band changed as well.


CANT SAY NOTHING ABOUT AAMU because i have never heard them, actually i have never seen them, can some one please find a clip on this band, so i can hear what they sound like.

But people stay with your own style and if you have an original style, please go back to that,

Just remember one thing, we can be duplicated but never imatated!!!!!!
 
Legend35 said:
:uhoh: :uhoh: Are you sure about your facts? To my knowledge,....back in the early days,....the only power band there was were Southern and just maybe Tx Southern. The rest had a symphonic sound.

:smh: :lmao: No No No !!!! It's often imitated,...never duplicated!!!! Our announcer Dr. Williams always said that long before Southern started quoting it.

Work a little more on your facts please. :emlaugh:


:| ~taps Legend35 on the shoulder~ Cut The Best Band a little slack, Bama st. has been using that quote for years, primarily when we double-time. (not fast march) there is a difference. Just like a Doctors appointment, always get a second opinion. There is life outside of Louisiana and Mississippi!!!
 
kremesaver said:
:| ~taps Legend35 on the shoulder~ Cut The Best Band a little slack, Bama st. has been using that quote for years, primarily when we double-time. (not fast march) there is a difference. Just like a Doctors appointment, always get a second opinion. There is life outside of Louisiana and Mississippi!!!
OH BOY, here we go!!!! :hat:
 
Prof K said:
Leave that boy alone!!!! He's still young and dumb :hat: I notice he didn't say much about Gramblings I. D.
Sorry,...I just can't sit by and watch one of our own make statements of this kind with no facts. No knowledge of history. I will say it over and over again,....you can't know where you are going unless you know where you've been.

Then,... the thing that really makes me very angry :angry: is the things that other bands got from us in the past,.....the young folks don't do anymore and those are some of the things that put us on the map. They are ignorant to the fact that we invented it,....yet, they think they are copying. :smh:

Again!!! I say ,... "you can't know where you are going unless you know where you've been".
 
s phi s said:
Legend, would you like to help this kid out a lil? Please do before he gets a musical education in this here thread.
:wavey: I apologize for this. Please turn a blind eye to this for me. He's young and has a good heart but,....I'm sorry to say he just don't know. I blame people like me for that. :smh:
 
kremesaver said:
:| ~taps Legend35 on the shoulder~ Cut The Best Band a little slack, Bama st. has been using that quote for years, primarily when we double-time. (not fast march) there is a difference. Just like a Doctors appointment, always get a second opinion. There is life outside of Louisiana and Mississippi!!!
Yes!!! In the late 70's and early 80's,...I sat in Crampton's Bowl and watched you guys against Tuskeegee. I was there when Dr. Lyle was there, Tootsie Goodman was DM, S. Cooks, A. Bandy, M. Raybon, F. Smith....was running things. Believe me,...he never use this quote. We have been saying this as long as I can remember and it's not an original quote that we made up ourselves. I started noticing you guys using it in the early 90's,.... 1993 to be exact. You even came on the field like Grambling,...probably because your BD (at that time) graduated from Grambling. Therefore,.....
 
The Best Band said:
UAPB -- They are a good band, they are superb in the stands, but there field shows are copied from others past shows. Stay with your own shows and style, and dont let new people come in and change you for nothing.


Thanks and ness too....who shows have we done wdf!!?
 
You know I have a problem with the jerk who started this thread because in my time at Alcorn(86-95),we were never a copycat band!!!!SWAC bands all had something unique about them that only they could do.Of course every band has taken an idea from another band,that was part of the game.I wish some of these "newschool" "bandsmen" would learn some music in something other than F Minor and at a dynamic level other than FFF with screaming F-Horns & B-tones!!!!!!!I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but have some facts to support it!!!!!!
 
Legend35 said:
:wavey: I apologize for this. Please turn a blind eye to this for me. He's young and has a good heart but,....I'm sorry to say he just don't know. I blame people like me for that. :smh:


It's no biggie....It just hurts me to see band members with certain animosities based on no good reason. If you just don't care for a band, I'd rather you say that than come with.....

Ah never mind.....but it's no bigie tho!!!! :tup:
 



Legend35 said:
Yes!!! In the late 70's and early 80's,...I sat in Crampton's Bowl and watched you guys against Tuskeegee. I was there when Dr. Lyle was there, Tootsie Goodman was DM, S. Cooks, A. Bandy, M. Raybon, F. Smith....was running things. Believe me,...he never use this quote. We have been saying this as long as I can remember and it's not an original quote that we made up ourselves. I started noticing you guys using it in the early 90's,.... 1993 to be exact. You even came on the field like Grambling,...probably because your BD (at that time) graduated from Grambling. Therefore,.....

;) For you to know so much about us, it seems that you are still mistaken. The only Dir. we had from Gsu was Harold Bray who came in 1995. We've taken no traits whatsoever from GSU. Key point,
YOU STARTED NOTICING us using it in the early 90's. And we don't come on the field like Grambling. We "Bring it on". Ask someone what that means. :lecture: and futhermore, the BD at that time was Danny B. Davis which worked under Prof. Lyle and both came from FAMU:

just a lil fyi: Bama St. past Band Directors:

Thomas E. Lyle- FAMU Alumni
Danny B. Davis- FAMU Alumni
Harold Bray- GSU Alumni
Ralph Chapman- SU Alumni
James Oliver- Bama St. Alumni (current Dir.)
 
kremesaver said:
;) For you to know so much about us, it seems that you are still mistaken. The only Dir. we had from Gsu was Harold Bray who came in 1995. We've taken no traits whatsoever from GSU. Key point,
YOU STARTED NOTICING us using it in the early 90's. And we don't come on the field like Grambling. We "Bring it on". Ask someone what that means. :lecture: and futhermore, the BD at that time was Danny B. Davis which worked under Prof. Lyle and both came from FAMU:

just a lil fyi: Bama St. past Band Directors:

Thomas E. Lyle- FAMU Alumni
Danny B. Davis- FAMU Alumni
Harold Bray- GSU Alumni
Ralph Chapman- SU Alumni
James Oliver- Bama St. Alumni (current Dir.)
Question:

Have you seen the 1993 Turkey Day Classic? That entrance looks very familiar.
 
Legend35 said:
Question:

Have you seen the 1993 Turkey Day Classic? That entrance looks very familiar.

Yes....but hell, you say that to say what......anyone who does a step 2 drill will look like 10 other bands at some point!!! But Bama St has one of the most original styles out of a lot of bands. So again, I don't see your point??? What in our entrance so distinctly resembles Grambling???
 
kremesaver said:
Yes....but hell, you say that to say what......anyone who does a step 2 drill will look like 10 other bands at some point!!! But Bama St has one of the most original styles out of a lot of bands. So again, I don't see your point??? What in our entrance so distinctly resembles Grambling???
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I'm not going to sit here and get all bent out of shape with you about something you can't see. Nobody in the HBCU come on the field like Grambling does. You did in 1993. Everyone knows that FAMU started the double time. TENN STATE uses the sky trumpets that's hard to keep in tune in cold conditions. I'm not talking about no drill!!!! I'm talking about the way you came on the field!!!! Grambling is the only band that comes on like that!!!! H3ll I even heard a fan on the tape make mention of that!!!
Yeah!!!!,....there's life outside of Louisiana and Mississippi,....but, we have been doing this business in the National spot light just a little bit longer.
I don't mean to come off arrogant but, to me ,The Grambling Band is like the James Brown of marching bands. There is nothing they are doing that we haven't already done.
 
Legend35 said:
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I'm not going to sit here and get all bent out of shape with you about something you can't see. Nobody in the HBCU come on the field like Grambling does. You did in 1993. Everyone knows that FAMU started the double time. TENN STATE uses the sky trumpets that's hard to keep in tune in cold conditions. I'm not talking about no drill!!!! I'm talking about the way you came on the field!!!! Grambling is the only band that comes on like that!!!! H3ll I even heard a fan on the tape make mention of that!!!
Yeah!!!!,....there's life outside of Louisiana and Mississippi,....but, we have been doing this business in the National spot light just a little bit longer.
I don't mean to come off arrogant but, to me ,The Grambling Band is like the James Brown of marching bands. There is nothing they are doing that we haven't already done.


:cool: Seems to me like you already have. I won't get into this either. But to say that Bama St has copied Grambling.......I will let some else step IN.

ps......for you to be a seasoned person in the Band. :| The Univ. of Michigan started the double-time, not FAMU. And the trumpets of Tenn. ST. you speak of (which Bama St. also used) is called the Dizzy Gilespie(sp) Trumpet. I guess you didn't see that in 1993, or did we copy that TOO!!!
 
Legend35 said:
Question:

Have you seen the 1993 Turkey Day Classic? That entrance looks very familiar.

Uh mer ruh..........I was in the band that year and I have a very good copy of that tape..........we don't look SHAT like GSU and never have. :rolleyes:

We did that same entrance from the sidelines like we been doing; how da hell it look like GSU??? Hell, we never seen GSU in person until 2001. :shame:

Danny B. Davis was our director at that time- a FAMU Graduate. No affilliation with GSU whatsoever.
 
Legend35 said:
You even came on the field like Grambling,...probably because your BD (at that time) graduated from Grambling. Therefore,.....

Therefore, you are wrong..........again, Danny B. Davis was the director in 1993 and he is a FAMU Graduate, not a GSU graduate. :read:
 
I'own know about that Legend35; Bama State mimmicking yalls entrance?! :confused: As much as I love/hate ASU, I must say that they are rich in band heritage that dates back to the 60's and I do know that their Turkey Day entrance in which you speak of, has been going on for decades; and was not "taken" from Grambling.

Not trying to be funny or anything, but I caint think of any HBCU band that has attempted to mimmick Grambling in nothin.

"Snake"
 
:| Turkey Day Classic. 1st and oldest one alive!!! My case is closed. With that being said:

Back to Rankings:

Tie for first: Su, JSU, GSU, TxSU, PVMU, UAPB. Either of these schools can take first place on any given Sunday. I haven't seen GSU or UAPB this year but have heard nothing but good things.

Only reason why I didn't include my own(Bama St.) is because we have the right tools to take anyone of those schools but the members have to step it Up. I still love'em though. You know your hardest critic is your own.

AAMU- bring back the band i'm used to seeing. I hope you all clear up the issues over there but I will give the benefit of the doubt because its not the students fault. So this season I'll give the Bulldogs an "under construction".

MVSU- still waiting.
Alcorn- bring back the band from several years back and everyone will bow down.
 
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