That is the first thing I thought.
Black athletes should boycott the SEC?
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@Herbert77060 @Jag Voice
Y'all my heroes. I started to cuss both of you out to affirm how much I esteem you but I recalled that I'm supposed to walk w/ the lawd in my last days. smh Y'all say EXACTLY what I want(ed) to say, word for word. Good work.
Y'all my heroes. I started to cuss both of you out to affirm how much I esteem you but I recalled that I'm supposed to walk w/ the lawd in my last days. smh Y'all say EXACTLY what I want(ed) to say, word for word. Good work.
skyvolt2000
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That is why you got some white folks saying white athletes need to do it as well.
You have to hurt those schools in the money maker- RECRUITING. How do you do that hurt that basketball and football team.
Winning teams attract not just players but non-athletes as well. It is why we have seen coaches get fired despite winning games because they couldn't fill the stands with money spending fans.
You might not get the kid who is going to go to a school because of a program like nursing (kids from school district choose PV for it's medical program) but you can get some of those fringe ones.
Yeah trying to get all those jocks to go to HBCU will push out a lot other kids. Now the question would be would that benefit those D2-3 schools?
bernard
THEE Realist
unknown1
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And that's why I pointed out the student numbers. Georgia State alone has more black students than the entire AUC. So do Kennesaw State and Georgia Southern is close. So, where are all of those kids supposed to go? lol. Now, if you don't have a full scholarship, you're going out of state and paying out of state tuition. There's not even close to enough HBCU's to cover even half of black students that attend PWI's. And if we're being real, people don't care about the kids going to PWI's if they're not athletes. And more of it is the desire to win than any will care to mention, and instead, make it about you should only go to an HBCU if you're black. Where the kids in the midwestern and plain states supposed to go? To the south...after seeing how politics are down here? No one wants to really think about the how none of this is realistic.
ECSU_NCCU_Christopher
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I think the NAACP and others are out of touch with reality on this one. There is data out there that shows how many black people go to PWIs and the capacity of current HBCUs that are accredited. HBCUAC is either the largest or second largest HBCU conference and none of those schools, in the HBCUAC, even have football.
To me a better option is to spend the resources to drive for constitution amendments in southern states that prevent political gerrymandering and the breaking up of counties in voting districts along with having non partisan committee being in control of the maps.
Local elections count too and they can act as firewalls against this administration. There are places where no one is running for political positions and it would be wise to get people into those offices. Shout out to Mr. Pugh who got tired of seeing a position open in a eastern north carolina county and came out of retirement to run unopposed for the office of Soil and Water.
My question for the national NAACP is what did you do with the 50 million from Wells Fargo:
naacp.org
newsroom.wf.com
To me a better option is to spend the resources to drive for constitution amendments in southern states that prevent political gerrymandering and the breaking up of counties in voting districts along with having non partisan committee being in control of the maps.
Local elections count too and they can act as firewalls against this administration. There are places where no one is running for political positions and it would be wise to get people into those offices. Shout out to Mr. Pugh who got tired of seeing a position open in a eastern north carolina county and came out of retirement to run unopposed for the office of Soil and Water.
My question for the national NAACP is what did you do with the 50 million from Wells Fargo:
Wells Fargo Announces $50 Million Grant to NAACP
The grant is the single largest donation the civil rights organization has received to date
naacp.org
Wells Fargo Announces $50 Million Grant to NAACP
The grant is the single largest donation the civil rights organization has received to date Today, Wells Fargo announced a $50 million grant to support the nations largest civil rights and social justice organization in its continued efforts to advance racial equity in America. Wells Fargos...
ECSU_NCCU_Christopher
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I have a cousin that graduated from Georgia State. It would not surprise me that numbers of black people are George State would out do some of the small states in numbers.
the band fan
Baseball Fan
take away the "stars" - joke majors which translates to nothing - getting pushed out now so they can pay someone else higher NIL - unless you're the chosen one, you have very little opportunity to even get a job back in the department cause your major didn't translate to anything - abused maybe to harsh but definitey used
Oddly enough - why didn't Atlanta ever have a public HBCU? or even Birmingham? Every other state (Mississippi, Florida, Alabama) has one in the capital but Georgia - was that by design?
ECSU_NCCU_Christopher
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I think it would have trickle down effect, but then you would have young adults being pushed out of D2\D3\NAIA until you get to the point were there would be people that would have nowhere to go.
It is almost like the NAACP, national leadership, did not think things through before announcing this. As the numbers are not on their side.
I wonder if a better idea would have been to target specific schools and a specific sport in a state where the black population is high and having a fair redistricting process would result in more seats across the board that would favor the black population, generally speaking, interests. The NAACP would need a funded NIL piece to this, as you would need to support the young adults who join the boycott and they should not put the pressure on any HBCU school or schools to come up with NIL monies for boycott the NAACP called for.
ECSU_NCCU_Christopher
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It would not surprise me if that was by design. I know that North Carolina A &T first choice was to be located in Raleigh, NC when it was created (that got shot down and they ended up in Greensboro because they where gifted land). I would question A &T being located in Raleigh due to there being two private HBCU there at that time. Virginia State, private university, is located in Richmond (Capital of Virginia), so it make sense why a public HBCU was never put there. Interesting enough it was 22nd Regiment of the UCST who prevented Richmond from burning down during the Civil War.
Again, that is the exact same thing I thought. I mean, what is the game plan? In situations like this do we play "chess" or "checkers"????
+1.
All one has to do is talk to one of the coveted 5*/4* guys and one will know it. They are a differing breed of AA.
Herbert77060
Texas Southern University
This is sacrifice.
Truly admirable. Modern day sacrifice and loyalty is what each of us did to graduate our respective HBCU as big state U came calling for our services and minority count to affirm their grant positioning.
Herbert77060
Texas Southern University
A lot of people, Black people in particular, made sacrifices (some made the ultimate sacrifice) so those coming after could have the opportunities they have now. It would really be sad if we are not willing to make sacrifices to ensure those opportunities continue.Truly admirable. Modern day sacrifice and loyalty is what each of us did to graduate our respective HBCU as big state U came calling for our services and minority count to affirm their grant positioning.
I had a history history professor who happened to be white when I was at Texas Southern and one day during a lecture he said the way to get people to not protest or complain was to let them get some things...a couple of cars, a house, a boat...a pretty good job and you will have no more trouble out of those people. Those who protest feel they have nothing to lose. If people think they have something to lose they will stay silent.
unknown1
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Black kids not going to SEC schools is not going to be the ultimate sacrifice that changes any of this. Also, I looked at how low the turnout for voting in Georgia was for this past election. Where I'm from, less than 10% of people bothered to even show up. And this is while seeing that Republicans are doing everything they can to get rid of Civil Rights. We'll make a lot of noise on social media or when there's a big incident guaranteed.
But overall, people are either too comfortable or struggling too hard for any of this to really be a concern. That's the difference between now and the Montgomery Bus Boycott. The middle class with many black families living comfortable in current compared home prices of 400K+ largely didn't exist. A lot of these kids in Georgia come from exactly that type of environment because their parents lived in the big money districts giving their kids access to bigger and better programs.
Programs like Langston Hughes, Creekside, Buford, Gainesville, Walton, Sandy Creek, Grayson, Carrollton...those kids are a mix of products from families with HBCU parents, but just as many or more PWC black parent grads. Not all of those are going to see telling their kids to turn down life changing money when doing so isn't going to even put a scratch on this system.
Symbolism can be effective, but it's not going to do a single thing to stop gerrymandering. If the general public didn't care enough to vote, I mean, what are we really expecting to come from this?
ECSU_NCCU_Christopher
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I wonder did the NAACP and the CBC even tried to talking to any of the 5*\4* recruits to get an idea of their thoughts on a possible boycott before announcing this?
ECSU_NCCU_Christopher
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I think those children knew what was at stake and there was no hiding from anti-black discrimination. Today is alot different, as some of these players can be isolated from anti-black discrimination as long as they are useful to some of these schools. I heard one former player that said (not a direct quote): We knew the KKK was around, but the university was going to make sure the athletics were protected from that.
buckwheat1911
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agreed
J C
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I believe the NAACP and CBC were attempting to voice the displeasure of most blacks at the white nationalists gerrymandering.
This current adult generation will be the first generation to pass to their children and grandchildren a world worse than they inherited. Today's adult - for the most part, we still have some foot soldiers living - but today's adult, when they reached the age of 18/21 inherited a right to vote, a right to attend any school they wanted to attend, the ability to buy a home where they wanted to, access to better paying jobs.....today's adult has never had to sacrifice for anything. And we standby in our comforts and allow and watch all of the gains begin to erode away, because we don't want to make a sacrifice. I have heard adults saying ''don't put this on the children", the civil rights movement, hell every movement has had children/youth play an instrumental part in affecting change. The nation did not realize exactly how bad the treatment was in the deep south until they saw dogs being sent to attack children. What was known as the Voting Rights Bill - gone, aside from the desired athletes - going to a PWI - "DEI" rollbacks will cut the ability and infrastructure for blacks to attend, redlining in the banking and mortgage industry is growing again, even your church and how you might want to worship is being challenged. But, we good. Run that ball, make that jump shot.
unknown1
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But what I don't get is, if it's such a major issue with most of us, why did so few of us bother to show up to vote? Something that could actually directly make a difference in their state representation? It just doesn't make sense to me. Not showing up at the polls and then expecting all of these kids to take the lead by turning down money is kinda crazy. When you look at the sentiment that we have online and the efforts being made in real life with a 20% voter turnout, it just doesn't add up. That 20% were the people that are in touch with what's going on and care about it. Then, there's that 80% that couldn't an hour out of their lives during a month's time to go vote. Just to put this all in real perspective, there's 7.5 million registered voters in Georgia. 2 million people voted total. There are more than 2 million registered black voters in GA. Less than 30% of us bothered to vote. I mean....how much do we REALLY care?