AAMU agreed to the MCC contract.


In a way, I disagree. AAMUs stadium only holds 21K. They got 26K in last week which was good. I'm not sure how much a ticket was but let's assume $30 per head. Thats right under $800K from tickets. They do make money from parking and concessions so maybe that will cover game day expenses so I will stick with the net of $800K. The MCC gives them $1.2M and all they have to do is show up. Now, let's move to the next year, they could make 1.2M from MCC but instead, they have to SPEND money to get to Montgomery. Let's also keep this positive and say they make $400K in sponsorships and season ticket sales for those who want to ensure a ticket to the AlaState game, they would still be missing out on $1.2M the next year.

I don't see what the problem is here. They are basically getting the same (and more than likely MUCH MORE) as they would get paid if they had the game on campus EXCEPT they also get that when they would have been on the road.
The thing you're missing is local economic impact. People will have to stay somewhere. They will have to buy gas somewhere and eat somewhere. There are also entertainment dollars to be spent. I'm not sure if that offsets the difference in yearly payout but it helps when negotiating with the local government to be able to point out that you you provide a local impact of ~5 mil for one game.
 
The thing you're missing is local economic impact. People will have to stay somewhere. They will have to buy gas somewhere and eat somewhere. There are also entertainment dollars to be spent. I'm not sure if that offsets the difference in yearly payout but it helps when negotiating with the local government to be able to point out that you you provide a local impact of ~5 mil for one game.

That is why the City of Birmingham pays part of the bill and provides the stadium.

In Huntsville, the impact is 1/3 of what it will be in Birmingham because of stadium capacity.

Basic math.
 



The article I looked at estimated that the direct and indirect economic impact for Birmingham was around 20 mil. A third of that would be more than I estimated. Right now Huntsville is seeing 0% of that. How the game might affect those that live in and around the city on a daily basis should matter.
 
The article I looked at estimated that the direct and indirect economic impact for Birmingham was around 20 mil. A third of that would be more than I estimated. Right now Huntsville is seeing 0% of that. How the game might affect those that live in and around the city on a daily basis should matter.
you saw that 20-23 million impact number too? Yet no one will explain why A&M and ASU only get the 1.5 million payout...
 
Both schools alumni need to find out who is the ASC? what people make up the ASC? the website is very vague and the only thing I got from the mission statement is that they promote the game to Alabama...
That is the purpose of meeting 4 times per year. The leader of the ASC is Gene Hallman. Knowledge is power...
 
If folks really want to know what we got out of this ask our AD. I said it once and I will say it again these dudes get paid to do a job. They have been doing this just like you all do your jobs every day. I actually held a conversation with him in Mobile. I was glad I got it from the horses mouth.
 
you saw that 20-23 million impact number too? Yet no one will explain why A&M and ASU only get the 1.5 million payout...
Do you all understand what economic impact means? You aint getting a cut of folks going to eat at a steakhouse, folks buying charcoal from walmart to grill or folks getting gas from gas stations. All of that is included in the economic impact... even the folks that don't even go to the game and just go to Birmingham for the parties, etc. You can't judge what you're supposed to get paid based off of that lol. And folks in this very thread say that Huntsville doesn't support AAMU like that, so why would you be concerned about them getting a third of it instead of Birmingham? Ion get it.
 
Do you all understand what economic impact means? You aint getting a cut of folks going to eat at a steakhouse, folks buying charcoal from walmart to grill or folks getting gas from gas stations. All of that is included in the economic impact... even the folks that don't even go to the game and just go to Birmingham for the parties, etc. You can't judge what you're supposed to get paid based off of that lol. And folks in this very thread say that Huntsville doesn't support AAMU like that, so why would you be concerned about them getting a third of it instead of Birmingham? Ion get it.
You do realize how that benefits anyone that might work and go to school at either AAMU and ASU right? Infusing a community to the tune of 100 mil over the course of 5 years should give you some leverage at the negotiation table. You absolutely get paid based on your worth and what you're able to negotiate based on that value.
 
You do realize how that benefits anyone that might work and go to school at either AAMU and ASU right? Infusing a community to the tune of 100 mil over the course of 5 years should give you some leverage at the negotiation table. You absolutely get paid based on your worth and what you're able to negotiate based on that value.
It's down right disgusting🤮....and it's been going on for almost the past 2 decades or more...waaay more than 5 years..
 
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That is the purpose of meeting 4 times per year. The leader of the ASC is Gene Hallman. Knowledge is power...
Gene Hallman is only one person ..I know who he is cause he was apart of Bruno Event team...where on the site are the other board members/employees listed though? Is the ASC just Gene Hallman? Can the ASC tell us how much they make from "promoting our classic every year to the state of Alabama"?
 
If folks really want to know what we got out of this ask our AD. I said it once and I will say it again these dudes get paid to do a job. They have been doing this just like you all do your jobs every day. I actually held a conversation with him in Mobile. I was glad I got it from the horses mouth.
I was told by someone involved in the negotiations both school loss $30k each covering travel expenses from the initial contract and the one recently signed. The initial contract also had escalators to push the money above $1.2m given increases in revenues,
 
That is why the City of Birmingham pays part of the bill and provides the stadium.

In Huntsville, the impact is 1/3 of what it will be in Birmingham because of stadium capacity.

Basic math.
Stadium capacity? Let’s be REAL… u know and I know that at least 20k getting in on comp tickets at MCC. Second our home game tickets are already higher than MCC tickets. You can get 25 dollar general admission tickets for MCC. Raise the ticket prices to 50 in Huntsville and you wont have to worry about stadium size. I have never paid for a MCC ticket in my life.
 
Stadium capacity? Let’s be REAL… u know and I know that at least 20k getting in on comp tickets at MCC. Second our home game tickets are already higher than MCC tickets. You can get 25 dollar general admission tickets for MCC. Raise the ticket prices to 50 in Huntsville and you wont have to worry about stadium size. I have never paid for a MCC ticket in my life.
Wow…I’ve been attending the MCC for over 50 years and never got a free ticket. I never asked for one either because I believe in supporting our institutions.
 
Stadium capacity? Let’s be REAL… u know and I know that at least 20k getting in on comp tickets at MCC. Second our home game tickets are already higher than MCC tickets. You can get 25 dollar general admission tickets for MCC. Raise the ticket prices to 50 in Huntsville and you wont have to worry about stadium size. I have never paid for a MCC ticket in my life.
In 4 years you have the opportunity to move your home game to Huntsville. I hope for AAMU sake that the internet committee math works for you. As long as ASU keeps the game in Birmingham, I am happy. I will go to the game every in Birmingham, I wont make the trip to Huntsville, but I am sure AAMU will be successful without my butt in the stands.

I do have a couple of questions:

1. Is the vision to reserve a percent of tickets to ASU or will it be first come first serve for all? UA and AU reserve a percent for the visiting team and band. Are all seats in the AAMU stadium currently reserved?

2. Will any money go to visiting team or does all the money go to the home team? I am not sure how this works today for a normal home game, my thought was that all the money goes to the home team, but hopefully someone with more knowledge will educate me about how it works.
 
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Wow…I’ve been attending the MCC for over 50 years and never got a free ticket. I never asked for one either because I believe in supporting our institutions.
not about me asking… Birmingham just gives them away to ALOT of different employers throughout the city…. Also radio stations In Huntsville, Birmingham and Montgomery. The Black radio station here always has a “anybody who comes by the station can pick up free tickets”.. usually the week of Classic.
 
In 4 years you have the opportunity to move your home game to Huntsville. I hope for AAMU sake that the internet committee math works for you. As long as ASU keeps the game in Birmingham, I am happy. I will go to the game every in Birmingham, I wont make the trip to Huntsville, but I am sure AAMU will be successful without my butt in the stands.

I do have a couple of questions:

1. Is the vision to reserve a percent of tickets to ASU or will it be first come first serve for all? UA and AU reserve a percent for the visiting team and band. Are all seats in the AAMU stadium currently reserved?

2. Will any money go to visiting team or does all the money go to the home team? I am not sure how this works today for a normal home game, my thought was that all the money goes to the home team, but hopefully someone with more knowledge will educate me about how it works.
No all seats are not reserved.. but there are resesrved seats. Not sure about if a first come first serve… Im sure the game would be used to boost season tickets sales. We had our largest season ticket in history this past year where we eclipse the 5500 goal.

In a home and home series…. The home team keeps all the money.
 
Stadium capacity? Let’s be REAL… u know and I know that at least 20k getting in on comp tickets at MCC. Second our home game tickets are already higher than MCC tickets. You can get 25 dollar general admission tickets for MCC. Raise the ticket prices to 50 in Huntsville and you wont have to worry about stadium size. I have never paid for a MCC ticket in my life.
There are no "comp/free" tickets, those are included in the sponsorships - now what they do with their allotments is a different subject.
 
I'm going to keep it 100 also. The MCC has grown into more than just a game. Moving it will kill that atmosphere. Going back and forth to the respective schools will be great, but let's be honest it's the pageantry that has made this game grow. It's the best recruiting tool that grown both schools. The battle of the bands, the parade, the step shows, the alumni events, the tailgating. It's the Magic that comes to lights in Birmingham. Moving it will kil that. I'm not a hater I'm a realist. Folks bring their students and families from everywhere to this game. At some point we gotta look at the overall picture. I'm just giving a view from someone who wasn't raised in this state. The MCC is unique in it's own way. Meeting the middle brings folks out of the country Bama woods from south Alabama to North Alabama who will not travel if it moves that will alone kill the magic of the Magic City Classic. The MCC is a family reunion of hate and love. You will not get that going back and forth to Huntsville and Montgomery. I hate Birmingham, but I go to the game because I'm going to see folks I love and grew up with. It's the magic of a family reunion. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
but if they try and move the game to progressive...?
 
You do realize how that benefits anyone that might work and go to school at either AAMU and ASU right? Infusing a community to the tune of 100 mil over the course of 5 years should give you some leverage at the negotiation table. You absolutely get paid based on your worth and what you're able to negotiate based on that value.
Except they won't be making that at home... nowhere close to it so it still doesn't make sense. Half the folks that go to Bham will not go to Montgomery or Huntsville. That was kinda the point. On top of that, what do you do in the years that you aren't the home team? lol. That's a guaranteed million dollar loss every other year because no other game is going to come close to being sold out other than homecoming.
 
No all seats are not reserved.. but there are resesrved seats. Not sure about if a first come first serve… Im sure the game would be used to boost season tickets sales. We had our largest season ticket in history this past year where we eclipse the 5500 goal.

In a home and home series…. The home team keeps all the money.
Thanks!
 
Stadium capacity? Let’s be REAL… u know and I know that at least 20k getting in on comp tickets at MCC. Second our home game tickets are already higher than MCC tickets. You can get 25 dollar general admission tickets for MCC. Raise the ticket prices to 50 in Huntsville and you wont have to worry about stadium size. I have never paid for a MCC ticket in my life.

I am more positive about AAMU moving their game home and ASU keeping it in Birmingham. Thats 3 million every other year for ASU, so our income from the game wont change when we dont host. Based on the internet committee, it sounds like AAMU will make way more than that to cover the two years of income when they host, I am happy for y'all.
 
I’ll be honest… I don’t know what the payout or how the payout would be determined…. But I don’t see anything wrong with exploring it. I know we don’t get ANYTHING from parking or tailgating at Legion Field. People talk about “how many folks we would be losing”…. But I don’t think they realize that parking (well at least at AAMU) is $25…. The same amount as a general admission MCC ticket. A tailgate spot is 800 a year, 400 for regular season game and 500 for homecoming…. And they usually sell out. We have a large tailgate lot. All im saying is let the folks do their job and look at the numbers and see whats best for each individual school. Look at this clip of homecoMing 2 weeks ago… That’s a lot of paid parked cars… .and tailgating lot was full. That’s ALOT of money.

View: https://youtu.be/JJvG0Sto5xE?feature=shared
 
I stand with our AD. The next 4 years will be interesting. I understand ASU's position and I think history lessons are being learned.
 
I wish AAMU much success. I will enjoy the next 4 years, then after that every other year.
 
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