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Blacknbengal

Blacknbengal

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Smh........What can we (as blacks) to help and improve our brothers and sisters lives? I know there are ones out there that just wanna live foul, but there has to be some kind of wisdom that we can share to start them on the path to "Understanding".

I'm tired of us living the way we do. I'm ready for us, blacks, to take back our rightful position in this world. The "HOOD" position isnt it. That hasnt paid off for us. The "SELLOUT" position isnt it. Its temporary and not long lasting. The "Isolate" position isnt it. Its lonely by yourself and it's no fun if it's only you there.

There has to be a way that we as a people can get understanding that we must atleast try to get back to our original position "BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY"! I'm tired of seeing us exploited, executed, exhibitioned, and just exiled. We must try to reach our people. Man, this is crazy. How can a mighty nation fall so far and not realize it????

This is too sad......I digress......smh
 



jsupop33 said:
Brother, I feel your pain. Its tough.
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Pops, I cant sit and laugh at our exploitation any more. Man, watching other nations rise above us as we sit idle thinking this is our natural position. Hell, I'm feed up!!! Seriously. This isht hurts, bruh!!! They drugged us with dope and ropes and we still think this isht funny we see on TMZ and bullisht sites like that.

Man......I'm on ONE today.
 
Man, what can I say? That I came from a small country town, got alittle education. Blessed with a good little job, made alittle money and bought alittle fancy things in this world. All while watching my sisters and brothers out here acting like salvages and wild beasts. Tearing each other apart and entertaining these other races for fun. Man, I cant die and rest in peace after all that. Knowing my people are sinking further and further down to the abyss without knowledge.

SMH....
 
The Founder said:
It begins in our individual households. Respect for ourselves as men then our wives must respect themselves as women. This homosexual agenda is being thrown down our throats along with Blacks creating labels to define other blacks.

I feel your pain.
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I agree with what Founder has said. In addition, I think the following two observations, if properly addressed, would go a long ways toward accomplishing the objectives you have outlined:
1. In the Black community, curtailing the number of teenage pregnancies---In almost every case, children born to teenage mothers grow up in homes without their fathers and thereby become subject to all that such a station in life entails. By way of example, in the year 1995, in Monroe, Ouachita Parish/County, Louisiana, only 16 per cent of Black babies born that year were born to wedded parents. This has got to change, in my opinion, if our race is going to move forward.
2. Black men (those who are absent from their children lives) have got to step up to the plate and do whatever is necessary to be a "father" to their children. Sure, they may have been teenagers when the child/children were born, but when they are older, there is no excuse for continuing to not do those things that only a father could do for his child(ren). While there will always be exceptions to the rule, kids, for the most part, who grow up with a father in the home, possess a different constitution than those who don't. There are way too many Black kids growing up in fatherless homes. Such a fact has taken its toll on the Black family, and especially on Black boys.
 
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TSU/BAMA said:
Drugs??? Gangs???? Do you think those are also part of our problem?
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You can't help folks who don't want help.
You can't help folks who are benefiting with how things are. And I am not talking other races.
You can't help anybody when black feminism goes off on any type of criticism.
You can't help anybody when you ignore who keeps getting propped up.
You can't help anybody when you don't pay attention to what black stuff is being propped up and put out.
You can't help folks if they think they can't do anything that is not a black stereotype.

Earle said:
2. Black men (those who are absent from their children lives) have got to step up to the plate and do whatever is necessary to be a "father" to their children. Sure, they may have been teenagers when the child/children were born, but when they are older, there is no excuse for continuing to not do those things that only a father could do for his child(ren). While there will always be exceptions to the rule, kids, for the most part, who grow up with a father in the home, possess a different constitution than those who don't. There are way too many Black kids growing up in fatherless homes. Such a fact has taken its toll on the Black family, and especially on Black boys.
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There are black men doing that, more than OTHER races. And a lot of them will tell who has gotten in the way-the MOTHER and the court system.
Because some want to do more than give money but guess who stands in the way. Especially if Mom acts a fool.
See Dwayne Wade, 50 Cent, Omarion & Bow Wow.

Some men have had to walk away. I know one that told his son "see me when you turn 18-I can't keep fighting with your mom."

And folks have to stop thinking there is not an agenda to this. Funny the faces of the NBA are guys without dads.

Heck go to Wal-Mart & Target-look at the black (non help or bio) books. All female centric and some with hood chicks. All the books with Black males not thuggish have to be ordered online. Including Black Panther & Miles Morales. Miles Morales is a New York Times Best seller. he can't get on shelves.
 
TSU/BAMA said:
Drugs??? Gangs???? Do you think those are also part of our problem?
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Drugs and gangs exist because of broken family structures. Kids look to belong. When no family structures are in place you seek and find family. Drugs take over because of a broken family structure and no opportunity with a lack of education. No one shows lil Ray Ray how to work hard and learn a trade. We push everyone to college which isn't the answer. Getting a education is great but showing a man how to work and survive even if the white man takes his white collar job will take you a long way. I guess it's called balance. I will say this one thing that helped me and one of my best friends stay away from the dope game was his grandma. For a while they tried to get us to be look out boys aka corner boys. I think she picked up on us leaning that way. So one day I was over his house in the projects. She was came outside and started talking to us. Out of know where she said baby look at that dude on that corner. That poor thang has been out there all weekend long. You two chaps have worked Friday, Saturday and Sunday and made the same amount of money he has and you ain't got worry about being robbed, being put in jail or getting killed over another person's money and she went back inside. On may way home on the bus I thought about what she said and got up called McDonald's and asked for more hours. Never looked back. Folks don't have those kind of people to steer you in the right direction with a lil common sense now. Makes a difference. Long story short the dude on that corner went to highschool with us. He didn't graduate or make it past 18. Just saying.
 
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CEE DOG said:
Drugs and gangs exist because of broken family structures. Kids look to belong. When no family structures are in place you seek and find family. Drugs take over because of a broken family structure and no opportunity with a lack of education. No one shows lil Ray Ray how to work hard and learn a trade. We push everyone to college which isn't the answer. Getting a education is great but showing a man how to work and survive even if the white man takes his white collar job will take you a long way. I guess it's called balance. I will say this one thing that helped me and one of my best friends stay away from the dope game was his grandma. For a while they tried to get us to be look out boys aka corner boys. I think she picked up on us leaning that way. So one day I was over his house in the projects. She was came outside and started talking to us. Out of know where she said baby look at that dude on that corner. That poor thang has been out there all weekend long. You two chaps have worked Friday, Saturday and Sunday and made the same amount of money he has and you ain't got worry about being robbed, being put in jail or getting killed over another person's money and she went back inside. On may way home on the bus I thought about what she said and got up called McDonald's and asked for more hours. Never looked back. Folks don't have those kind of people to steer you in the right direction with a lil common sense now. Makes a difference. Long story short the dude on that corner went to highschool with us. He didn't graduate or make it past 18. Just saying.
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This social distancing got people pouring out their guts. I concur Cee.

I was raised by my great aunt and uncle. My mother died when I was 8 and everyday she and my stepfather got up and went to work. After her death I went to live with my great aunt and uncle and everyday that God sent they got up and went to work...had a garden and raised chickens. They always pushed education and I had chores at home. As soon as I was old enough I got a job...first selling Christmas trees and then as a busboy at One"s A Meal. They never made things too easy but I always had what I needed and some things I wanted. The example of people working was prevalent in Independence Heights. Most had "menial" jobs but the others owned businesses in the community. My folks made sure they always patronized the local businesses and only went outside of the community for things not found in Independence Heights.

Environment and peer pressure are very important in the formative years. Strike the iron while it is hot.
 
Earle said:
I agree with what Founder has said. In addition, I think the following two observations, if properly addressed, would go a long ways toward accomplishing the objectives you have outlined:
1. In the Black community, curtailing the number of teenage pregnancies---In almost every case, children born to teenage mothers grow in homes without their fathers and thereby become subject to all that such a station in life entails. By way of example, in the year 1995, in Monroe, Ouachita Parish/County, Louisiana, only 16 per cent of Black babies born that year were born to wedded parents. This has got to change, in my opinion, if our race is going to move forward.
2. Black men (those who are absent from their children lives) have got to step up to the plate and do whatever is necessary to be a "father" to their children. Sure, they may have been teenagers when the child/children were born, but when they are older, there is no excuse for continuing to not do those things that only a father could do for his child(ren). While there will always be exceptions to the rule, kids, for the most part, who grow up with a father in the home, possess a different constitution than those who don't. There are way too many Black kids growing up in fatherless homes. Such a fact has taken its toll on the Black family, and especially on Black boys.
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I whole heartily agree with this
 



I don’t think there is nothing more we can do but to live our individual lives and make ourselves happy as best of a way we can individually and collectively involving friends and family. Black people as a whole are done with until after the end of time and a new heaven and earth would be created in my opinion before blacks could and would feel just as human and be just as human as any other type of the opposite of African descent people . All the decades from civil rights fighting, morality fighting, black leaders.. nothing still didn’t change how the world viewed us treated us nor over time overall did we correct our negative behavior(s) ... its even worse now...social media, feminism, government assistance, racism, uplifting and making black women superior over black men in the community and workforce, college, schools more superior then black boys and men, placing black boys in special ed, wanting black boys to Move operate think play and act like girls in a social manner rather than physical and behavior wise...support, Cardi b, Megan the stallion, ho culture, me too, the lgbtq, and etc ruined black people.... for good. More black women today are out to destroy black men and get what they can get, they are no different than racists. White supremacists. I can go on an on an on as I’ve noticed and lived through things after being a black boy to a black man in this world we live in....this place(world) isn’t a place for black people...African descent. As I’ve gotte older time has passed, many negative life changing experiences, occurrences, involving all these things completely changed how I view life, and what I feel life is about now....For a people to have suffered the way all African Descent people have since almost as long as the world had been created is just enough in itself to question and feel a way about now and your place in it... no other people but African descent to this day.... a lot to think about...
 
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If only we could teach our masses who is always chasing after that pop culture what White Supremacy looks like in its smallest and most subtle forms. Maybe they would see who are their real enemies and start making conscious decisions on how they deal with others. Some of them truly don't understand that being a thug, a gangsta, and ignorant in public only give White Supremacists justifification for their need of offensive behavior to blatantly attack and kill people of color, particularly us. Now days, all White people have to say after killing an innocent Black person is that, "I feared for my life." Not only it justifies their offensive behavior, but it also provides them a means to stay well armed with the latest and greatest weaponry. When I lived in Los Angeles, I knew some people (particularly a frat brother) who thought that the gangs could take on LAPD. My reply to him was, if they tried, it would give LAPD and California National Guard justification to indiscriminately kill innocent Black people.
 
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JAG89 said:
If only we could teach our masses who is always chasing after that pop culture what White Supremacy looks like in its smallest and most subtle forms. Maybe they would see who are their real enemies and start making conscious decisions on how they deal with others. Some of them truly don't understand that being a thug, a gangsta, and ignorant in public only give White Supremacists justifification for their need of offensive behavior to blatantly attack and kill people of color, particularly us. Now days, all White people have to say after killing an innocent Black person is that, "I feared for my life." Not only it justifies there offensive behavior, but it also provides them a means to stay well armed with the latest and greatest weaponry. When I lived in Los Angeles, I knew some people (particularly a frat brother) who thought that the gangs could take on LAPD. My reply to him was, if they tried, it would give LAPD and California National Guard justification to indiscriminately kill innocent Black people.
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Good points
 
SIR_GRAM said:
I don’t think there is nothing more we can do but to live our individual lives and make ourselves happy as best of a way we can individually and collectively involving friends and family. Black people as a whole are done with until after the end of time and a new heaven and earth would be created in my opinion before blacks could and would feel just as human and be just as human as any other type of the opposite of African descent people . All the decades from civil rights fighting, morality fighting, black leaders.. nothing still didn’t change how the world viewed us treated us nor over time overall did we correct our negative behavior(s) ... its even worse now...social media, feminism, government assistance, racism, uplifting and making black women superior over black men in the community and workforce, college, schools more superior then black boys and men, placing black boys in special ed, wanting black boys to Move operate think play and act like girls in a social manner rather than physical and behavior wise...support, Cardi b, Megan the stallion, ho culture, me too, the lgbtq, and etc ruined black people.... for good. More black women today are out to destroy black men and get what they can get, they are no different than racists. White supremacists. I can go on an on an on as I’ve noticed and lived through things after being a black boy to a black man in this world we live in....this place(world) isn’t a place for black people...African descent. As I’ve gotte older time has passed, many negative life changing experiences, occurrences, involving all these things completely changed how I view life, and what I feel life is about now....For a people to have suffered the way all African Descent people have since almost as long as the world had been created is just enough in itself to question and feel a way about now and your place in it... no other people but African descent to this day.... a lot to think about...
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That is not the way, my brother. We tried that and failed. Someone reached you and look at you now. You're ready to throw your hands up at the rest of the race? Smh... Not the way
 
Earle said:
I agree with what Founder has said. In addition, I think the following two observations, if properly addressed, would go a long ways toward accomplishing the objectives you have outlined:
1. In the Black community, curtailing the number of teenage pregnancies---In almost every case, children born to teenage mothers grow up in homes without their fathers and thereby become subject to all that such a station in life entails. By way of example, in the year 1995, in Monroe, Ouachita Parish/County, Louisiana, only 16 per cent of Black babies born that year were born to wedded parents. This has got to change, in my opinion, if our race is going to move forward.
2. Black men (those who are absent from their children lives) have got to step up to the plate and do whatever is necessary to be a "father" to their children. Sure, they may have been teenagers when the child/children were born, but when they are older, there is no excuse for continuing to not do those things that only a father could do for his child(ren). While there will always be exceptions to the rule, kids, for the most part, who grow up with a father in the home, possess a different constitution than those who don't. There are way too many Black kids growing up in fatherless homes. Such a fact has taken its toll on the Black family, and especially on Black boys.
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I am replyig to my own post because I want to briefly expound on a comment I made therein. I believe that in the Black community, the large number of fatherless homes have given rise to, or at least have expanded, gang activity in the U.S., the rise in teenage pregnancies, unconscienable high school drop-out rates, Black poverty, and declining morality which, in my estimation, are at the core of the stagnation our race is experiencing.
With strong fathers in the homes, mothers would find themselves not having to go it alone, especially when dealing with boys once they turn 15 or older. Those same boys would be much less-likely to venture off into gang activity with a strong father/father-figure from which to emulate. Similarly, girls would be a lot less-likely to be robbed of their virginity during their tender years, with strong fathers or father-figures in the homes. It should go without saying that with a stromg father or father-figure in the home, a boy or a girl would be a lot less-likely to drop out of school, particularly with all their needs being met. The poorest people in America tend to be mothers who are single. If a child's mother and father/father-figure are both in the home, household income is likely to rise sharply, thereby greatly increasing the chances that that family would escape the ravishes of poverty.
 
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Blacknbengal said:
That is not the way, my brother. We tried that and failed. Someone reached you and look at you now. You're ready to throw your hands up at the rest of the race? Smh... Not the way
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I mean I was reached because I had great parents and that I halfway wanted to be something and do something. Yes a lot or most black males aren’t fortunate to have been raised the way I was. But if school discipline, juvenile discipline and reform, or jail prison reform discipline can’t change anyone’s social behavior. Other forms and examples of social behavior. We just never got that thing to click in our heads like . We got to change this as a whole, do better. It’s down hill now within the community after the Hoe culture, sugar daddy culture, and find a athlete entertainer etc culture.... Black women run the black community, always have... post what... the late 60s.... after welfare... government assistance....There is nothing that can be done. The biggest thing that hit me in the mouth was when I joined a Greek Alumni chapter and saw how the older black men operated and how they did nothing to make the younger brothers feel apart of the group, nor train teach or uplift. They gave you looks of disgust when you were around because you haven’t achieved the level they have or was at there age, but someone let you in or you got in somehow. When you were in down times, no one called to help or support. It’s just where are your dues and why your car doesn’t look like everyone else’s car pulling up to the 2 story frat house... I can still go on for there... how there is a huge disconnect between older black men and young black men...That’s the whole reason why I don’t really Mess with my D9 org like that anymore, very big contradiction from the Purposes and objectives set by the founders as to how undergrad chapters treat brothers and how brothers treat brothers period... whether your from the Theta Phi chapter or Mars chapter alumni. People from the outside looking in at black frats would laugh all day... There’s no unity, no manhood, no brotherhood.... Pimp C said it best in knockin doors down.... “If them stupid a** ****** came together as to how much paper we would see” and it’s Just not about the money....
 
SIR_GRAM said:
I don’t think there is nothing more we can do but to live our individual lives and make ourselves happy as best of a way we can individually and collectively involving friends and family. Black people as a whole are done with until after the end of time and a new heaven and earth would be created in my opinion before blacks could and would feel just as human and be just as human as any other type of the opposite of African descent people . All the decades from civil rights fighting, morality fighting, black leaders.. nothing still didn’t change how the world viewed us treated us nor over time overall did we correct our negative behavior(s) ... its even worse now...social media, feminism, government assistance, racism, uplifting and making black women superior over black men in the community and workforce, college, schools more superior then black boys and men, placing black boys in special ed, wanting black boys to Move operate think play and act like girls in a social manner rather than physical and behavior wise...support, Cardi b, Megan the stallion, ho culture, me too, the lgbtq, and etc ruined black people.... for good. More black women today are out to destroy black men and get what they can get, they are no different than racists. White supremacists. I can go on an on an on as I’ve noticed and lived through things after being a black boy to a black man in this world we live in....this place(world) isn’t a place for black people...African descent. As I’ve gotte older time has passed, many negative life changing experiences, occurrences, involving all these things completely changed how I view life, and what I feel life is about now....For a people to have suffered the way all African Descent people have since almost as long as the world had been created is just enough in itself to question and feel a way about now and your place in it... no other people but African descent to this day.... a lot to think about...
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What gives me hope is that all human beings come from nature. If something in nature is not in it's right place, nature has a way of making it right again. Therefore, by us being human, the nature inside of us is always working to make us right again.
 
JAG89 said:
What gives me hope is that all human beings come from nature. If something in nature is not in it's right place, nature has a way of making it right again. Therefore, by us being human, the nature inside of us is always working to make us right again.
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One more thing. Though we have our fair share of fools there are more good kids than bad. For all those in that video there are hundreds maybe thousands who are focused and trying their damnedest to do the right thing. They go to school...they go to work...they are committed...they are business owners. The dumb butts get the social media play but the majority of our children are handling their business.
 
SIR_GRAM said:
I mean I was reached because I had great parents and that I halfway wanted to be something and do something. Yes a lot or most black males aren’t fortunate to have been raised the way I was. But if school discipline, juvenile discipline and reform, or jail prison reform discipline can’t change anyone’s social behavior. Other forms and examples of social behavior. We just never got that thing to click in our heads like . We got to change this as a whole, do better. It’s down hill now within the community after the Hoe culture, sugar daddy culture, and find a athlete entertainer etc culture.... Black women run the black community, always have... post what... the late 60s.... after welfare... government assistance....There is nothing that can be done. The biggest thing that hit me in the mouth was when I joined a Greek Alumni chapter and saw how the older black men operated and how they did nothing to make the younger brothers feel apart of the group, nor train teach or uplift. They gave you looks of disgust when you were around because you haven’t achieved the level they have or was at there age, but someone let you in or you got in somehow. When you were in down times, no one called to help or support. It’s just where are your dues and why your car doesn’t look like everyone else’s car pulling up to the 2 story frat house... I can still go on for there... how there is a huge disconnect between older black men and young black men...That’s the whole reason why I don’t really Mess with my D9 org like that anymore, very big contradiction from the Purposes and objectives set by the founders as to how undergrad chapters treat brothers and how brothers treat brothers period... whether your from the Theta Phi chapter or Mars chapter alumni. People from the outside looking in at black frats would laugh all day... There’s no unity, no manhood, no brotherhood.... Pimp C said it best in knockin doors down.... “If them stupid a** ****** came together as to how much paper we would see” and it’s Just not about the money....
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I understand what you're saying, but giving up is not the way. Someone (whoever that may have been) didnt give up on you, so you shouldnt give up. Our race can and Will be saved. We shouldn't give up.
 
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