2015 FCS Playoffs Attendance


I believe the Ivy League's non-participation in postseason football was enacted in 1945, partly based on not accepting segregationist funds from bowl games

The Ivy League presidents purposefully wished to define postseason games as "sectional or other championships", which can only mean one thing - football bowls, and nothing else.



After all, when you take away AAU games, NCAA championships, international rowing meets and ECAC wrestling meets and hockey games, what, praytell, is left?



At that time, many bowl games at the time took place in the segregated Jim Crow south, where African-Americans couldn't stay with white teammates and couldn't eat in the same venues in many cases. There were very good moral and ethical reasons for banning postseason bowls in that era - and it actually something that is worth commending - the Ivy League didn't succumb to segregationist money.

http://www.college-sports-journal.c...-simple-the-ivy-playoff-ban-is-discrimination
 
A little research just to put some things into perspective.

Below are Ivy League team that have either participated or will be participating in NCAA postseason (fall sports) tournaments this year.

Field Hockey - Princeton
Women’s Soccer - Princeton
Men’s Cross Country - Penn, Yale
Women’s Cross Country - Penn, Brown
Men’s Soccer - Dartmouth
Women’s Volleyball - Harvard

Neither one of these sports come anywhere close to the expenses associated with fielding a football team. And we all know ain't nah' one of these school broke.
 



A little research just to put some things into perspective.

Below are Ivy League team that have either participated or will be participating in NCAA postseason (fall sports) tournaments this year.

Field Hockey - Princeton
Women’s Soccer - Princeton
Men’s Cross Country - Penn, Yale
Women’s Cross Country - Penn, Brown
Men’s Soccer - Dartmouth
Women’s Volleyball - Harvard

Neither one of these sports come anywhere close to the expenses associated with fielding a football team. And we all know ain't nah' one of these school broke.

And nah' one of those schools are rich; they are wealthy.
 
I would like to know the bid amount some of the host schools sent in. Chattanooga and Dayton just basically paid the NCAA to host a playoff game. 997 at $15 is only $14,955 and I'm sure the NCAA required a bid much more than that.
Minimum bid for the 1st round is $30K.
 
Minimum is $30K. No one ever wins by bidding the minimum though. JSU bid $200K for the 1st round last year.

http://www.breezejmu.org/sports/jmu...cle_e1ec2cd4-801f-11e4-97e1-2bd4429239da.html

Yeah the average bid usually ends up being at LEAST $100K to host a game. If you are a NDSU or Montana and can host a game (or two or 3), fan bases from those schools will allow those schools to make that money back. We know most FCS schools don't fall in that boat. Attendance proves that plus when the big boys are coming out and saying that they've barely made money (JMU) or lost money (Towson, Montana) you know the system is jacked up
 
Minimum is $30K. No one ever wins by bidding the minimum though. JSU bid $200K for the 1st round last year.

http://www.breezejmu.org/sports/jmu...cle_e1ec2cd4-801f-11e4-97e1-2bd4429239da.html


Bourne said the proposal was submitted with the plan to use “private athletic sources” to cover any of the $48,347.50 between the $152,330 it planned for expenses and the $200,677.50 guarantee that wasn’t covered by ticket sales.

JMU’s playoff journey was cut short with a 26-21 loss to Liberty. But the game drew 13,040 fans, which was second only to Montana’s 14,108 fans among all eight first-round games.The number was still the lowest attendance total since Bridgeforth Stadium expanded to 25,000 seats in 2011. JMU, in its NCAA playoff bid, estimated that 23,520 tickets where going to be sold, which would have netted $420,100 in ticket sales.

Only 1,622 students came to Saturday’s game, despite JMU opening residence halls and dining facilities earlier than usual after Thanksgiving. JMU had estimated in its bid that 6,200 students would attend the game. Because the NCAA doesn’t allow host institutions to offer complimentary playoff tickets, JMU athletics sponsored all of the student tickets to keep them free. Documents provided to The Breeze show that the price for each ticket was set at $10, and JMU budgeted $62,000 for the student tickets.

Insane! Having the 1st round on Thanksgiving weekend is a killer for FCS football (well, except the Bayou Classic)!
 
Attendance at 13 neutral-site games involving FCS teams also was up by an average of 2,763 last season as well.

I wonder how many of those 13 neutral site FCS games are with teams from the Swac and Meac.


My mistake. Here is the right attendance figure.

As for NCAA championship tournaments, total attendance for the FCS tournament was 184,279 for an average of 8,012 in 23 playoff games.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/a...ndance-mark-sets-records-total-figure-tops-50

It was in the same story....

However, attendance totaled 203,413 in 23 FCS playoff games, or an average of 8,844. That was up over 10 percent from 184,279 fans in 2013, or 8,012 per game.
 



A little research just to put some things into perspective.

Below are Ivy League team that have either participated or will be participating in NCAA postseason (fall sports) tournaments this year.

Field Hockey - Princeton
Women’s Soccer - Princeton
Men’s Cross Country - Penn, Yale
Women’s Cross Country - Penn, Brown
Men’s Soccer - Dartmouth
Women’s Volleyball - Harvard

Neither one of these sports come anywhere close to the expenses associated with fielding a football team. And we all know ain't nah' one of these school broke.

I agree
 
(STATS) - Nothing takes the air out of the later stages of the FCS season quite like ... well, the start of the playoffs.
Huh? How so? OK, that's an overstatement, but the annual thrilling finish to the regular season always gets a smack the face over Thanksgiving weekend when the playoffs open to smaller crowds.
It can remain a slow climb out of the attendance hole. The action may sizzle on the field, but the host schools play catch-up with the bottom line, even as average crowd sizes increase with each round.
There's no easy fix to the annual attendance problem as the host schools try to meet their expenses, and it's especially bad for first-round games. That's when schools face less than a week of preparation following the announcement of the playoff field and play over a holiday weekend when even loyal fans can be traveling, many students are away from campus, the weather is often worsening and complimentary tickets, which drive up regular-season attendance, aren't available. It's even a rivalry weekend for big FBS games to draw away attention, even more so than usual.
The average attendance in last weekend's first round was particularly poor at 5,634, with a high of 14,575 at Montana (that's more than 11,000 below than the average regular-season game) and an embarrassing low of 997 at Dayton. Montana was up slightly from a home game in last year's first round, but Northern Iowa and Sam Houston State, which hosted games both years, were down quite a bit from last year, when the average attendance for eight first-round games was 6,548.
FCS schools eventually made it to an average of 8,295 for the 22 games played at school sites before the championship game drew 20,918 to Frisco - driven by the North Dakota State fan base.
A query of people involved in the playoffs at FCS schools expressed frustration over the annual attendance woes, including such reactions as "I can tell you all of the problems, but no good solutions," and "I think I could retire if I knew the answer."
A majority of those surveyed talked about moving playoff games from Thanksgiving weekend as the way to get the postseason off to a better start attendance-wise. It's probably not going to happen, though.
Starting the entire regular season a week earlier - as only Montana and North Dakota State did this year - would only serve to change the valuable weekend before Thanksgiving, when everybody is playing, to accommodate just eight playoff games. Not starting the playoffs until the week after Thanksgiving would push the national semifinals up against the Christmas holiday in some seasons, so that would be frowned upon. Plus, by starting the playoffs a week later, the seeded teams which have first-round byes would sit for three weeks, not two, and that's too long.
So as long as the field is 24 teams - which is well-received - a change to the start of the playoffs is unlikely.

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If the Celebration Bowl is a success watch what they start doing. I was once a proponent of the FCS playoffs until I saw that there was no fiscal return.

You already know that PWI's are going to follow suit. I guess since white folks will be doing it; some of those MEAC folks will finally get on board. Its kind of ike how HBCU classics were devalued but now you have major FBS programs playing neutral site classic-type games.
 
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How many of "us" would show up to the SWAC Championship/Celebration Bowl if no sideshow events were scheduled around the football games?

Would todays SCG have 40k if nothing but a football game was scheduled?

I think the SCG would still blow PWI FCS game attendance out of the water, but I doubt it gets over 35k.
 
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