Darren Wilson changed crucial elements in story


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SleepyCrat said:
The JazzyMayz guy is doing something known as trolling.

He makes outrageous statements and feels as if he "wins" by others responding to him. The way to handle these types is to never respond to anything he says. He is not trying to have a rational conversation, he's only trying to get a rise by saying at what at this time is the most controversial thing. You lose whenever you quote or respond to people like this on the internet.
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Not trolling.... But this is why I kept my mouth shut for so long on this issue.... Didn't know that this board has a "Groupthink" mentality....
 



Kendrick said:
I don't watch cable TV news, but tell Bill, Laura, Rush and Mr. Elder I said hello.
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Don't watch cable TV news either... I do my own research and come up with a conclusion.

That's what registered independents do.....

But why am I debating the same person that takes up for the dumbest call in Bayou Classic history??? And writes an article on it???
 
JazzyMayz said:
Again.... Did you do independent research??? Did you see the Facebook posts of Trayvon asking "How to make a quick lean"? and he was replied that all you need is a Watermelon Arizona iced tea, skittles and cough syurp? Wanna know how I know? My cuz drinks the same thing!!!!

Now everything else I will respectfully say I have no knowledge of what people on this board caused them to move from these same areas.... I will apologise for that... However I will not apologise for my thoughts directly referred at Ferguson.
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I don't have a Facebook account, so no, I didn't see Trayvon's posts. Regardless of what he posted on Facebook still does not justify his murder. I do know I've read stories about how people get on social media to make bombs. What's your point?

I did see what you posted on this Forum about how if he weren't dressed like he was it wouldn't have happened, which is an ignorant statement. Again, if dress was the significant factor as you suggest it is/was, again I ask that you explain the murders of James Chaney, Medgar Evers, and other civil rights activists/freedom marches. I'm using the comparison because had it not been for those men and their senseless deaths and the beliefs they died for, there would possibly be no Civil Rights for our race today.
 
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How many times was UNARMED Michael Brown shot?

If you kill them they cannot testify against you.


JazzyMayz said:
Like I said..... Witaker is a public figure.... that happens all the time and comes with the territory....

I just refuse to believe that Wilson was on a "Die N**** Die rampage
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JazzyMayz said:
Don't watch cable TV news either... I do my own research and come up with a conclusion.

That's what registered independents do.....

But why am I debating the same person that takes up for the dumbest call in Bayou Classic history??? And writes an article on it???
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Says the man who believes if black men dressed like fictional TV characters they wouldn't be harrased by the police.
 
JazzyMayz said:
Dang It!!! Im sick of this story... I haven't posted my feelings intentionally on this matter because people on this board don't respect opinions. There is a thing called Karma.... ever heard of it? Don't you realize that all these protests are just giving these kids more ammunition to sag their pants, steal, jaywalk in the street, and other stupid stuff. Why would the owner of the store call the police? So he can be labeled a snitch? If he was dressed like Carlton Banks this or the Trayvon mess ouldn't have happened. Don't you know you are OK'ing this behavior. Some people one this board are the same ones who moved out of these communities because of the Michael Brown's of the world and wanna holla Kumbaya from your suburbs. I'm man enough to say I got my family out of that environment and don't give 2 cents what happens there cause they brainwashed by the system and choose to live in it cause it's easy.....

Yall quick to condemn Charles Barkley, Pharrell, Hell even Kobe with the Trayvon incident about personal responsibility, but don't see how the Al Sharptons and Ben Crumps of the world are jacking yall over. You really think they care about Blacks? Don't let that Civil Rights stuff fool you. They just like any celebrity, wanting to stay relevant in a new culture.... and yall falling for it....

I see no one is talking about the Black boy in Oregon that hugged the white cop......

Face it.... the stepdaddy showed the ignorance..... how you encourage someone to burn down stuff..... notice the biological dad was for peace.... probably cause he knew how his son was behaving...

Anybody watch the INDEPENDENT stories on youtube showing what really happened, or yall just stuck to your cable/satellite providers

Anybody read the PUBLICLY released statements where numerous people changed their story..... I guess they were paid off too.....

Yall just like certain teams on the sports board.... Just can't admit when you wrong......

Because of all these protests and demonstrations, you are saying that it's OK for black men to sag their pants, look like thugs and hoodlums, and amazingly not be judged???

I am JazzyMayz and I approve this message
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Research has proven that it is a myth that you (black males) are treated differently based on clothing. Regardless of how a black male is dressed there is a greater chance of him being stereotyped and receiving negative treatment. If a black male is wearing an expensive suit, there may be an assumption of illegal activities leading to the ability to wear such clothing. I can give an example from my personal life, my freshman year in college I was in the Army and received a bonus plus a really substantial "refund check" from financial aid. I decided to go buy my first car and I did not want to finance it so I Pulled out cash ($7500) to get a decent used car. I went to the other side of Monte Santo Mountain to purchase the vehicle and I was decently dressed. I had on slacks, dress shoes, and an A&M Polo on. When I saw the car I wanted and decided to pay for it, the salesperson saw the cash and went and got the manager. The manager asked me to leave and stated, "we don't make it our policy to sell cars to drug dealers" :smh:... Now I was dressed nicely, had a close cut, clean shaven, and A-student but because I had a substantial amount of cash and was decently dressed, I had to be a drug dealer... The truth does not really matter in these types of situations, it is more so the PERCEPTIONS of the involved parties...
 
What does a "quick lean" have to do with Trayvon being killed. NOT A DAMN THING!

I will tell you what happened. Zimmerman saw a small frame black male he thought he could take. When he started getting his ass whipped he killed the boy. If he doesn't mess with Trayvon for NO APPARENT REASON he doesn't get his ass whipped and then shoot the boy and make up a lie that many ******s bought into.


JazzyMayz said:
Again.... Did you do independent research??? Did you see the Facebook posts of Trayvon asking "How to make a quick lean"? and he was replied that all you need is a Watermelon Arizona iced tea, skittles and cough syurp? Wanna know how I know? My cuz drinks the same thing!!!!

Now everything else I will respectfully say I have no knowledge of what people on this board caused them to move from these same areas.... I will apologise for that... However I will not apologise for my thoughts directly referred at Ferguson.
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Herbert77060 said:
What does a "quick lean" have to do with Trayvon being killed. NOT A DAMN THING!

I will tell you what happened. Zimmerman saw a small frame black male he thought he could take. When he started getting his ass whipped he killed the boy. If he doesn't mess with Trayvon for NO APPARENT REASON he doesn't get his ass whipped and then shoot the boy and make up a lie that many ******s bought into.
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Correct...
 
96lioness said:
I don't have a Facebook account, so no, I didn't see Trayvon's posts. I did see what you posted on this Forum about how if he weren't dressed like he was it wouldn't have happened, which is an ignorant statement. Again, if dress was the significant factor as you suggest it is/was, again I ask that you explain the murders of James Chaney, Medgar Evers, and other civil rights activists/freedom marches. I'm using the comparison because had it not been for those men and their senseless deaths and the beliefs they died for, there would possibly be no Civil Rights for our race today.
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At least there's someone that I can have a decent debate with. And for the record I have always admired your posts and well thought out explanations.

The reason why I brought in the dress with Trayvon was because there were robberies in that area during the time, so that's where the dress came in.... Mabye Carlton Banks was a stretch, but if im walking down a street in a homeowners association neighborhood I would have a umbrella to protect from the rain, not something on that would incriminate me worse than we already are in this society.

As for James Chaney and Medgar Evans, that took place during a totally different time in American History. With those atrocities, plus the intense media scrutiny on police these days I find it Ludacris that Wilson went out of his way to gun down a black young man without any provocation.

As for Zimmerman, I believe that he was wrong from the moment the dispatch said "do not pursue", however I do believe that Martin's choice of dress added to the fact that he was stereotyped by Zimmerman, thus giving him the green light in his mind to not listen to dispatch and go vigilante
 
Blankman2k5 said:
Research has proven that it is a myth that you (black males) are treated differently based on clothing. Regardless of how a black male is dressed there is a greater chance of him being stereotyped and receiving negative treatment. If a black male is wearing an expensive suit, there may be an assumption of illegal activities leading to the ability to wear such clothing. I can give an example from my personal life, my freshman year in college I was in the Army and received a bonus plus a really substantial "refund check" from financial aid. I decided to go buy my first car and I did not want to finance it so I Pulled out cash ($7500) to get a decent used car. I went to the other side of Monte Santo Mountain to purchase the vehicle and I was decently dressed. I had on slacks, dress shoes, and an A&M Polo on. When I saw the car I wanted and decided to pay for it, the salesperson saw the cash and went and got the manager. The manager asked me to leave and stated, "we don't make it our policy to sell cars to drug dealers" :smh:... Now I was dressed nicely, had a close cut, clean shaven, and A-student but because I had a substantial amount of cash and was decently dressed, I had to be a drug dealer... The truth does not really matter in these types of situations, it is more so the PERCEPTIONS of the involved parties...
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THANK YOU! If you're Black wearing nice clothes, or driving good, it's automatically assumed it's from ill-gotten gains or illegal activity. Never mind that the fact that you served this country and worked hard in school.

If you're dressed in a hoodie, or living in an urban area or driving with shiny rims, you're automatically assumed to be a hoodlum or criminal. People with this type of mindset/mentality are the true threat to society. These people live off fear, and "people fear something they don't know about"......and fear leads to hatred.
 
This happened a couple of months ago............

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...ston-councilman-accuses-deputy-of-5813113.php

I know him personally and eat breakfast at his restaurant every morning AND he is a client.


JazzyMayz said:
At least there's someone that I can have a decent debate with. And for the record I have always admired your posts and well thought out explanations.

The reason why I brought in the dress with Trayvon was because there were robberies in that area during the time, so that's where the dress came in.... Mabye Carlton Banks was a stretch, but if im walking down a street in a homeowners association neighborhood I would have a umbrella to protect from the rain, not something on that would incriminate me worse than we already are in this society.

As for James Chaney and Medgar Evans, that took place during a totally different time in American History. With those atrocities, plus the intense media scrutiny on police these days I find it Ludacris that Wilson went out of his way to gun down a black young man without any provocation.

As for Zimmerman, I believe that he was wrong from the moment the dispatch said "do not pursue", however I do believe that Martin's choice of dress added to the fact that he was stereotyped by Zimmerman, thus giving him the green light in his mind to not listen to dispatch and go vigilante
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Blankman2k5 said:
Research has proven that it is a myth that you (black males) are treated differently based on clothing. Regardless of how a black male is dressed there is a greater chance of him being stereotyped and receiving negative treatment. If a black male is wearing an expensive suit, there may be an assumption of illegal activities leading to the ability to wear such clothing. I can give an example from my personal life, my freshman year in college I was in the Army and received a bonus plus a really substantial "refund check" from financial aid. I decided to go buy my first car and I did not want to finance it so I Pulled out cash ($7500) to get a decent used car. I went to the other side of Monte Santo Mountain to purchase the vehicle and I was decently dressed. I had on slacks, dress shoes, and an A&M Polo on. When I saw the car I wanted and decided to pay for it, the salesperson saw the cash and went and got the manager. The manager asked me to leave and stated, "we don't make it our policy to sell cars to drug dealers" :smh:... Now I was dressed nicely, had a close cut, clean shaven, and A-student but because I had a substantial amount of cash and was decently dressed, I had to be a drug dealer... The truth does not really matter in these types of situations, it is more so the PERCEPTIONS of the involved parties...
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Now in this case I see what you are saying, however if you came to that same car dealership with your pants sagging, golds in your mouth and baggy dress, they probably would have called the cops on you as soon as you flashed the cash. All I'm saying is stereotyping, racism, classism, sexism, and any other ism you can think of is here, and it's not going to change.... You have to adapt and conform... Isn't all this explained in the Good Book??? Just saying we shouldn't feed into it that's all
 
JazzyMayz said:
Like I said..... Witaker is a public figure.... that happens all the time and comes with the territory....

I just refuse to believe that Wilson was on a "Die N**** Die rampage
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Mr. JazzyMays

I see your point . . . really I do especially about personal responsibility, that’s a whole thread to itself. And yes, Michael Brown was no angel. In fact, I would go on further to say if I knew him personally, I don’t think I would care for him very much. However, from the information that I have read, accurate or inaccurate, he did not deserve to be shot six times and to be killed . . . at least not by the hands of Darren Wilson. If that’s not Die N-word Die rampage I don’t know what is. Wilson took an oath to serve and protect “EVERYBODY,” Not just the people who HE sees fit. John Hinckley, Jr. shot the leader of the free world and he was not killed on the spot. Now he spends more time out of jail visiting his mother. But Micheal Brown dies over $1 cigars. Again, I’m with you on black people being responsible for their actions but can we at least agree the crime did not fit the punishment for Brown.
 
Here is another one for you.............

http://abc13.com/archive/9527829/



JazzyMayz said:
At least there's someone that I can have a decent debate with. And for the record I have always admired your posts and well thought out explanations.

The reason why I brought in the dress with Trayvon was because there were robberies in that area during the time, so that's where the dress came in.... Mabye Carlton Banks was a stretch, but if im walking down a street in a homeowners association neighborhood I would have a umbrella to protect from the rain, not something on that would incriminate me worse than we already are in this society.

As for James Chaney and Medgar Evans, that took place during a totally different time in American History. With those atrocities, plus the intense media scrutiny on police these days I find it Ludacris that Wilson went out of his way to gun down a black young man without any provocation.

As for Zimmerman, I believe that he was wrong from the moment the dispatch said "do not pursue", however I do believe that Martin's choice of dress added to the fact that he was stereotyped by Zimmerman, thus giving him the green light in his mind to not listen to dispatch and go vigilante
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JazzyMayz said:
At least there's someone that I can have a decent debate with. And for the record I have always admired your posts and well thought out explanations.

The reason why I brought in the dress with Trayvon was because there were robberies in that area during the time, so that's where the dress came in.... Mabye Carlton Banks was a stretch, but if im walking down a street in a homeowners association neighborhood I would have a umbrella to protect from the rain, not something on that would incriminate me worse than we already are in this society.

As for James Chaney and Medgar Evans, that took place during a totally different time in American History. With those atrocities, plus the intense media scrutiny on police these days I find it Ludacris that Wilson went out of his way to gun down a black young man without any provocation.

As for Zimmerman, I believe that he was wrong from the moment the dispatch said "do not pursue", however I do believe that Martin's choice of dress added to the fact that he was stereotyped by Zimmerman, thus giving him the green light in his mind to not listen to dispatch and go vigilante
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Wearing a hoodie is a piece of clothing that is incriminating? You're the worse kind of black man. Seriously.
 
Herbert77060 said:
What does a "quick lean" have to do with Trayvon being killed. NOT A DAMN THING!

I will tell you what happened. Zimmerman saw a small frame black male he thought he could take. When he started getting his ass whipped he killed the boy. If he doesn't mess with Trayvon for NO APPARENT REASON he doesn't get his ass whipped and then shoot the boy and make up a lie that many ******s bought into.
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Small Frame??? Again you are reaching... Ill show you a small frame... me (5'9 135lbs)
Martin (6'1 200)

Youre reaching man.... but if you read my response to Lioness, you see I said Zimmerman was wrong all the way
 
Kendrick said:
Wearing a hoodie is a piece of clothing that is incriminating? You're the worse kind of black man. Seriously.
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No, wearing a hoodie with your pants sagging in a middle class neighborhood that has had previous break ins and are actively looking for a culprit is incriminating...
 
The oppressed will always make excuses for the oppressor............


I am out!



JazzyMayz said:
Now in this case I see what you are saying, however if you came to that same car dealership with your pants sagging, golds in your mouth and baggy dress, they probably would have called the cops on you as soon as you flashed the cash. All I'm saying is stereotyping, racism, classism, sexism, and any other ism you can think of is here, and it's not going to change.... You have to adapt and conform... Isn't all this explained in the Good Book??? Just saying we shouldn't feed into it that's all
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JazzyMayz said:
Like I said..... Witaker is a public figure.... that happens all the time and comes with the territory....

I just refuse to believe that Wilson was on a "Die N**** Die rampage
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You really need to talk to more black cops, FBI agents, Fed Marshall's and other LEO. Many of these white boys brag on how they bust brothers heads to the white meat. How do I know? I got two brothers who are LEO's. Don't be fooled dude. You also got black LEO's who do the same thing to black men.
 
I think many blacks are afraid to admit racism still exist in America. Blacks really feel we are discriminated against because of gang dudes and drug dealers. Sad! See good educated blacks don't have issues because we got jobs and degrees.
 
CEE DOG said:
You really need to talk to more black cops, FBI agents, Fed Marshall's and other LEO. Many of these white boys brag on how they bust brothers heads to the white meat. How do I know? I got two brothers who are LEO's. Don't be fooled dude. You also got black LEO's who do the same thing to black men.
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Trust me, I live in B.R. We got em here too (Bro. Stupid)
Taught school for 5 years.... Talked to many law enforcement.....
I know there are bad apples.... But by going through the testimonies, written statements and evidence that was made public with the Mike Brown case, I stand by my statements
 
CEE DOG said:
I think many blacks are afraid to admit racism still exist in America. Blacks really feel we are discriminated against because of gang dudes and drug dealers. Sad! See good educated blacks don't have issues because we got jobs and degrees.
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You D*** right we have issues too... But are you going to go on a job interview with your pants sagging and too big shirt with your degree and tell the people hiring you this is me???
 
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