Why the HELL is Charles Haley not in the NFL Hall of Fame?


JayRob said:
You gotta have some standards off the field as well. There's a reason he can't get the votes. I don't hear Jerry Jones clamoring for him to be elected into the HOF. As a matter of fact, I don't hear many of his colleagues trying to help him out either. That speaks volumes.
I would surely think twice before I voted him in based on his behavior (not sexual orientation) and disturbing antics.

Robert Brazile was better than Haley and he's not even in.
A lot of that had to do with his antics off the field. I'd vote Brazile in before Haley any how.
Click to expand...

If you read the entire book, you would see where Haley was one of the smartest players on the team and how much he helped younger players. And his 5 Super Bowl rings is a testament to how great of a teammate he was. He wasn't just a participant, he was a catalyst for those teams. No championship for either of those teams without him on board. Give the man his due. Just because Brazile hasn't made it is no reason to keep Haley out.
 
JayRob said:
You gotta have some standards off the field as well. There's a reason he can't get the votes. I don't hear Jerry Jones clamoring for him to be elected into the HOF. As a matter of fact, I don't hear many of his colleagues trying to help him out either. That speaks volumes.
I would surely think twice before I voted him in based on his behavior (not sexual orientation) and disturbing antics.

Robert Brazile was better than Haley and he's not even in.
A lot of that had to do with his antics off the field. I'd vote Brazile in before Haley any how.
Click to expand...

Can you give me ONE example of antics off the field that would keep Haley out of the HOF? ChrisCarter was a big drug addict most of his life, there is no more "antic" than that. So why does he get to go in teh HOF and haley doesnt in your mind. Haley was a difference maker on SB winning teams...he did it on the field yet you are talking about off the field antics that you heard somebody told somebody? Man please....all of the people wahines just named that deserve to be in the HOF yet they put JonOgden and WarrenSapp in the HOF? Come on man...this some bull.
 



Get Ready said:
Can you give me ONE example of antics off the field that would keep Haley out of the HOF? ChrisCarter was a big drug addict most of his life, there is no more "antic" than that. So why does he get to go in teh HOF and haley doesnt in your mind. Haley was a difference maker on SB winning teams...he did it on the field yet you are talking about off the field antics that you heard somebody told somebody? Man please....all of the people wahines just named that deserve to be in the HOF yet they put JonOgden and WarrenSapp in the HOF? Come on man...this some bull.
Click to expand...

While I agree Haley should be in the HOF, Oden and Sapp were the premiere players at their positions for more than a decade.
 
NFL's All-Decade Team of the 1970s - OFFENSE

.....

WIDE RECEIVERS

(First Team)

LYNN SWANN
College: Southern California
Pro Career: 1974-1982 Pittsburgh Steelers. HOF: 2001
Swann, the Steelers No. 1 pick in 1974, quickly blossomed into one of the most exciting and acrobatic receivers in NFL history. He became a starting WR in his second season and marked that year with an MVP performance in the Steelers Super Bowl X victory. In all, Swann caught 336 passes and was voted All-NFL three times.

DREW PEARSON
College: Tulsa
Pro Career: 1973-1983 Dallas Cowboys
Pearson was one of the most consistent pass catchers of the ’70s and was honored by being named first-team All-NFL and elected to the Pro Bowl three times. He played on six of the Cowboys’ division champion teams, all but one of those titles coming in the '70s. His finest season came in his second year when he set career-highs with 62 receptions for 1,087 yards. He led the NFL in receiving yardage during the Cowboys’ Super Bowl season in 1977.

(Second Team)

HAROLD CARMICHAEL
College: Southern University
Pro Career: 1971-1983 Philadelphia Eagles; 1984 Dallas Cowboys
At 6’8â€￾ Carmichael used his great height to become a premier receiver in the NFL. He was named first- or second-team All-NFL four times and voted to four Pro Bowls in his career. A seventh round pick, Carmichael made a name for himself in his third season when he led the NFL in both receptions and receiving yards while scoring 9 TDs. That started a string of nine straight seasons with 40 or more receptions.

PAUL WARFIELD College: Ohio State Pro Career: 1964-69, 1976-77 Cleveland Browns; 1970-74 Miami Dolphins. HOF: 1983 Warfield is regarded as one of the most precise route runners in NFL history. He also utilized his speed to average an astonishing 20.1 yards per catch in his Hall of Fame career. His mere presence on the field made defenses adjust and his play opened up his team’s running game. He retired with a career total of 427 catches for 8,565 yards and 85 TDs.

.....
 
Mel Blount made the all decade team for the '80s but not the '70s. That surprised me. He made the 75th anniversary team.

----------

NFL's All-Decade Team of the 1970s - DEFENSE

.....

DEFENSIVE ENDS

(First Team)

JACK YOUNGBLOOD
College: Florida
Pro Career: 1971-1984 Los Angeles Rams. HOF: 2001
There was certainly a lot more to Youngblood’s career than the famous story of him playing with a broken leg in the 1979 playoffs. But it clearly symbolizes the toughness that helped him become a dominant force in the NFL. Two Hall of Fame teammates, Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen tutored Youngblood early in his career and helped him quickly get on track for a Hall of Fame career himself.

CARL ELLER
College: Minnesota
Pro Career: 1964-1978 Minnesota Vikings; 1979 Seattle Seahawks. HOF: 2004
Eller was a fixture at left defensive end on the Vikings’ vaunted “Purple People Eaters†defensive line that also included Hall of Fame DT Alan Page. The peak of his Hall of Fame career came at the end of the ’60s and spanned to the mid ‘70s at which time he received All-Pro honors each season from 1967 to 1973.

(Second Team)

L.C. GREENWOOD
College: Arkansas AM&N
Pro Career: 1969-1981 Pittsburgh Steelers
A big part of the front line to the Pittsburgh’s “Steel Curtain Defense,†Greenwood was named first-team All-Pro in each of the team’s first two Super Bowl seasons. A six-time Pro Bowl choice, he played in all six of the Steelers’ championship games and four Super Bowl victories.

.....

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS

(First Team)

JACK HAM
College: Penn State
Pro Career: 1971-1982 Pittsburgh Steelers. HOF: 1988
A second round pick in 1971, Ham turned into the quiet leader of the Steelers defense that dominated opponents during this decade. He was regarded as an intelligent linebacker who was as good against the run as he was the pass. Perhaps his greatest reputation came for making big plays at the right time. He was named All-AFC and/or All-NFL every season from 1973 to 1979.

TED HENDRICKS
College: Miami (FL)
Pro Career: 1969-1973 Baltimore Colts; 1974 Green Bay Packers; 1975-1983 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders. HOF: 1990
At 6’7â€, Hendricks blocked 25 field goals or extra points during his Hall of Fame career. Noted for great speed and quickness, he reached the pinnacle of his career with the Raiders who he joined midway through the decade. In all, he played in eight Pro Bowls, seven AFC championship games, and four Super Bowls.

(Second Team)

ROBERT BRAZILE
College: Jackson State
Pro Career: 1975-1984 Houston Oilers
By his second season Brazile was regarded as an elite linebacker in the NFL. He earned All-Pro accolades for the first of four times in 1976. He was also voted to the first of seven straight Pro Bowls following that season.

BOBBY BELL
College: Minnesota
Pro Career: 1963-1974 Kansas City Chiefs. HOF: 1983
A member of the AFL’s All-Time Team, Bell continued to stay at the top of his game when he and the Chiefs became part of the NFL in 1970. Already a veteran of six AFL All-Star games, he played in three AFC-NFC Pro Bowls during this decade.

.....
 
man, can yall imagine Robert Brazile's HOF speech. :scared:

He might set the SWAC back about 50 years by the time he finishes speaking. Maybe, they can send him his jacket and stuff in the mail.
 
Dr. Phreeze said:
Charles Haley need to get in the HOF and Eric Wright (former CB of the 49ers) need to get in as well. End of Story....
Click to expand...

Phreeze,
I agree on Haley. But Eric Wright only had 18 career INTs and made 2 pro bowls. Not enough to get you in as a DB. Especially when the others out there have way better stats. Everson Walls had a better career than Eric. Eric just played on those great Niners teams.
 
EB said:
He would have my vote.

I am not surprised that Greenwood made the '70s decade team. I did not know that Brazille made it but am glad that he did.
Click to expand...

Both Brazile and LC should be in. Also my boy Donnie Shell.
 



JR said:
Phreeze,
I agree on Haley. But Eric Wright only had 18 career INTs and made 2 pro bowls. Not enough to get you in as a DB. Especially when the others out there have way better stats. Everson Walls had a better career than Eric. Eric just played on those great Niners teams.
Click to expand...

You don't necessarily have to get a ton of INT. He was more of a shut down corner during his playing days in the 80s. He was by far the most consistent corner and not that many WR were open on his side of the field.
 
Last edited:
JR said:
Phreeze,
I agree on Haley. But Eric Wright only had 18 career INTs and made 2 pro bowls. Not enough to get you in as a DB. Especially when the others out there have way better stats. Everson Walls had a better career than Eric. Eric just played on those great Niners teams.
Click to expand...

I liked Eric Wright but will definitely take Everson Walls over him.
 
Dr. Phreeze said:
You don't necessarily have to get a ton of INT. He was more of a shut down corner during his playing days in the 80s. He was by far the most consistent corner and not that many WR got were open on his side of the field.
Click to expand...

I liked his game. But you know as a DB you have get INTs to get you in. Especially in his case where his whole Defensive Backfield were pro bowl caliber. The QB had to throw somewhere with him, Dwight Hicks, Carlton Williamson, Lott, and then Tim Mckyer. All those guys made Pro bowls. Lott got all the INTs so he is the HOF.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
Yes to Shell and Greenwood, I'm not so sure that Bettis is deserving, although he probably gets in eventually.
Click to expand...

He got over magical 10K yards (Actually 13K) that will get him in eventually. He is not a first or even 2nd ballot HOF and I say that as a Steelers fan. But he will get in down the line. You have to consider he was a converted FB coming out of ND. He had some big numbers in the NFL. Wasn't like he was barely getting over a 1000 yards in his prime. He may have cracked the 14K mark had it not been for injuries at the end of his career.
 
You already have a bunch of Steelers from those 70s teams in the HOF. Greenwood and Shell were great, but I don't think they'll ever get in. Bettis should and will get in very soon.
 
JSU/99 said:
You already have a bunch of Steelers from those 70s teams in the HOF. Greenwood and Shell were great, but I don't think they'll ever get in. Bettis should and will get in very soon.
Click to expand...

If Bettis gets in that will truluy be a miscarraige of justice. I dont care how many yards he has, they are all a bunch of meaningless yards. He just occupied a spot for the Steelers when they won the SB. If he gets in, Im marching. Whose with me??? Lets stick together
 
Get Ready said:
If Bettis gets in that will truluy be a miscarraige of justice. I dont care how many yards he has, they are all a bunch of meaningless yards. He just occupied a spot for the Steelers when they won the SB. If he gets in, Im marching. Whose with me??? Lets stick together
Click to expand...

I am with you.. His tip toeing azz doesn't deserve it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top