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yis2003yis said:
My 2 cents.....I think they picked Houston because houston might have offered a much better deal compared the rest......Look at the U of H situation out of all the Major Venues in Houston "Reliant"had the best deal.....that says something

I love new orleans....Would like to see the game in the boot...but u have to think...how much did the super dome want? What did they offer? How much would the average Hotel Rates be?
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Dr. Broussard implied that the New Orleans was not as cooperative as the Houston facilities
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
It will be > if SU is in it. A winning SU brings a crowd.
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Especially in Houston. If that JSU vs SU SCG1 had been in Houston it would have had more folks than B-ham did. Houston is just too close for SU folks not to come if we are winning like that and that don't even count our alums who live in the Houston area. I think folks forget that the SU Houston Alumni chapter is the largest of it's kind outside the state of LA. So let SU mess around and get to the SCG while it is in Houston and they will be there. No major planning needed as the La folks can roll out in their cars easier than going to Bham. Plus they know they will not get wet or sit in the cold. LOL.
 



GoodFella said:
In 2003 and 2010, the 2003 attendance was pretty good. 2001 was damn good, but it should've been more being that Bham is closer to Montgomery than any other school in the SWAC.
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GF,
The attendance was 38K. Let's be generous (very) and say Gram brought 5-8K. Do the math on the rest. :tup:
 
Yall call me crazy.....but I think Alcorn vs. SU in the SCG ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR would be well-attended and a good ballgame. And yes, that is not a misprint, I said
Alcorn vs. SU. I always felt Alcorn vs. SU has always been the most underestimated SWAC rivalry in the conference.
 
mighty hornet said:
GF,
The attendance was 38K. Let's be generous (very) and say Gram brought 5-8K. Do the math on the rest. :tup:
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Yeah I can't rib on Bama State. Yall represented both times we played under not so ideal conditions in the SCG.

I didn't mind B-ham as I don't get into all that after the game stuff. I go for the game. If I had lived in B-ham or Atlanta I would have been more inclined to go even when SU didn't play there. But I do think change is something that was needed for the SWAC office and Presidents to see whether it is venue or city related. If they get the same results in Houston then they know it is on them marketing the game and basketball tourney. I do know both Houston venues are way too big for the SWAC. They are nice no doubt. But I wonder how much it all costs. We must have gotten some helluva deal and sponsorship.
 
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Which is damn good for your first SCG. The numbers declined each time y'all went to the SCG which in fact should've increased, inconsistency. I guess that you all averaged about 27k in the SCG and that is why I see why JROCK included ASU. I expected more since the SCG was in Alabama and the Alabama schools have made it to the SCG numerous of times.

mighty hornet said:
GF,
The attendance was 38K. Let's be generous (very) and say Gram brought 5-8K. Do the math on the rest. :tup:
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GoodFella said:
Which is damn good for your first SCG. The numbers declined each time y'all went to the SCG which in fact should've increased,
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GF,
It was cold and miserable as heck both years. I remember the year ASU won it was freezing rain too. You know a lot of "us" aint about to sit outside in weather like that.
I did though. LOL
 
I understand and yea I was speaking on emotions of y'all and AAMU. Basically being lazy and not doing the research lol. ASU has been holding it down over there though, no hate here :tup:

mighty hornet said:
GF,
It was cold and miserable as heck both years. I remember the year ASU won it was freezing rain too. You know a lot of "us" aint about to sit outside in weather like that.
I did though. LOL
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mighty hornet said:
I've said the same thing when folks were bashing Bham as the problem.

wonder what the excuse will be now.....
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You will have to wait to see if there is something to complain about first. :lecture:

I personally think it's a better option than Bham just from a perception standpoint. But I can't hate on Bham. Bham is a great location for JSU fans because we can just drive in, have dinner and go home.

BUT, I think we have enough JSU alums in Houston to draw JSU fans from around the country in for some couch duty. At least, since we want to try this, we can see how it goes. This is what we have been asking for.
 
Tigerpride said:
Most people can drive to Jackson. You won't need flights. That is the major difference. I will have to fly regardless.

However, I do believe that Houston should have these games. It is the largest SWAC city and the weather should be nice. While Jackson would be the best central location, I like the idea of it being in Houston. The only problem now is that you lose the Atlanta Market but hopefully, there are enough SWAC alums within driving distance to Houston to make up the difference. Atlanta empties out for SCG.
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I guess this is why I don't understand the centralized city argument because none of that matters if you're not driving. Personally, I prefer to fly when I go to a PV game out of state. Its cheaper and more convenient to fly to NOLA/BR or Jackson or Birmingham instead of driving all the way from Dallas or Houston where most PV fans are.

Honestly, this game has run its course so I don't think theres much interest in it unless your school makes it. The same folks who traveled to Birmingham to support their school will travel to Houston.
 
Bengal E said:
Well Congrats Houston, ya'll have fun. You probably won't be seeing me unless JSU goes on another one of those dominance runs because I ain't driving from the A to Space City. And by the time the matchups are in place, that's gonna be a little late for me to be purchasing air fare.
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Ya'll coming with excuses already.. LOL I have booked my flight from Philly to Bham everytime JSU played ONCE it was confirmed JSU was going to be a participant. You don't know if airfare will be high or not. Atlanta to Houston should be cheaper than Philly to Bham.
 
Storm96 said:
I guess this is why I don't understand the centralized city argument because none of that matters if you're not driving. Personally, I prefer to fly when I go to a PV game out of state. Its cheaper and more convenient to fly to NOLA/BR or Jackson or Birmingham instead of driving all the way from Dallas or Houston where most PV fans are.

Honestly, this game has run its course so I don't think theres much interest in it unless your school makes it. The same folks who traveled to Birmingham to support their school will travel to Houston.
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Well, I do think that the ability to pack up and drive is a good thing. Last year, I ordered 21 tickets for Bham because my fam in MS, Montgomery, and ATL could just pack in and drive over. Certainly, I won't be ordering 21 tickets for a game in Houston.. Well, then again. I will certainly be calling fam and friends over there too to see if they want to attend so I might need another 21. :)

Also, I don't think the game has run it course. I just think that the SWAC needs to improve it's brand and start winning some out of conference games. We drew 33K last year. That was very good for a Championship game for two out of state universities.
 
Storm96 said:
Honestly, this game has run its course so I don't think theres much interest in it unless your school makes it. The same folks who traveled to Birmingham to support their school will travel to Houston.
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So true! To revise the SCG, the two participating institutions need to sell 10k tickets each. I hear marketing mentioned, but who are you going to market the game too? HBCU alums are too fickle and most are watching their disposable income getting ready for Christmas. I just don't see a sizable walk up crowd similarly to what we see at the MCC and other established classic. Oh well, time will tell.
 



Tigerpride said:
Ya'll coming with excuses already.. LOL I have booked my flight from Philly to Bham everytime JSU played ONCE it was confirmed JSU was going to be a participant. You don't know if airfare will be high or not. Atlanta to Houston should be cheaper than Philly to Bham.
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It will be. Got three airlines to choose from to go from the ATL to Houston and two airports. Southwest bought Air Tran and they have direct flights to Houston Hobby and you can fly Delta or United to IAH (Bush Intercontinental Airport).
 
J C said:
So true! To revise the SCG, the two participating institutions need to sell 10k tickets each. I hear marketing mentioned, but who are you going to market the game too? HBCU alums are too fickle and most are watching their disposable income getting ready for Christmas. I just don't see a sizable walk up crowd similarly to what we see at the MCC and other established classic. Oh well, time will tell.
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I think that WE are the best marketers especially when our schools are involved. Heck, I even had to tell some folks in Bham the game was gonna be there.. LOL Also, for every school selling 10K tickets, every SCG has been over 20K. I am not sure how many tickets they sent to Jackson last year but we sold our allotment out leaving people in Jackson scrambling for tickets.
 
EB said:
I am wondering about that, and it is going through my mind. We will see.
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What newness? The SWAC WEST has an advantage over the SWAC EAST in that ALL of their teams have gone to and have won the SCG. That keeps things fresh and new. Going forward, the EAST looks like JSU vs AlaState but the WEST is wide open... and ALL of the WEST teams except Grambling have traveled well to SCGs especially considering the distances they have had to go. If you have AlaState and AAMU in the SCG in Bham and attendance is not at least 35-40K, there is a problem.... including weather. I think GSU will rep much better in Houston and to be honest, they have been the most so looking at a good site for them is important.
 
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JR said:
It will be. Got three airlines to choose from to go from the ATL to Houston and two airports. Southwest bought Air Tran and they have direct flights to Houston Hobby and you can fly Delta or United to IAH (Bush Intercontinental Airport).
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Also, since Bush Intercontinental is a major hub for United Airlines, most SWAC cities have direct flights into Houston. I know my hometown has at least 4 or 5 daily flights via regional jets that takes approximately 30 minutes to get to Houston. By the time you get comfortable, the pilot announces to the flight crew to prepare for landing.
 
Tigerpride said:
What newness? The SWAC WEST has an advantage over the SWAC EAST in that ALL of their teams have gone to and have on the SCG. That keeps things fresh and new. Going forward, the EAST looks like JSU vs AlaState but the WEST is wide open... and ALL of the WEST teams except Grambling have traveled well to SCGs especially considering the distances they have had to go. If you have AlaState and AAMU in the SCG in Bham and attendance is not at least 35-40K, they there is a problem.... including weather. I think GSU will rep much better in Bham and to be honest, they have been the most so looking at a good site for them is important.
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Nah TP. Gram got alums out in Houston and if they make the SCG, their crowd support will be better than it has been in Bham. Grambling folks are in Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Quicker drive to Houston than trying to get to Bham. Plus La is next door. So all their alums who live in La can get over to Houston in 5 hours or less depending on where they are from. New Orleans folks would have the longest drive at over 5. So Houston is definitely closer for them as well.
 
JR said:
Nah TP. Gram got alums out in Houston and if they make the SCG, their crowd support will be better than it has been in Bham. Grambling folks are in Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Quicker drive to Houston than trying to get to Bham. Plus La is next door. So all their alums who live in La can get over to Houston in 5 hours or less depending on where they are from. New Orleans folks would have the longest drive at over 5. So Houston is definitely closer for them as well.
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That was a typo.. LOL I meant GSU would rep better in Houston.
 
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