Supreme Court posed to strike down Gun Bans


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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/02/1784531/supreme-court-hears-arguments.html

The Supreme Court on Tuesday appeared poised to strike down strict state and local gun bans, though in the most judicially conservative way possible.

During a highly anticipated oral argument, the same justices who eliminated the District of Columbia's near-total handgun prohibition in 2008 suggested strongly that they thought that Chicago's handgun ban was equally incompatible with the Second Amendment.

"The right to keep and bear arms is right there. It's right there in the Bill of Rights," Justice Antonin Scalia said.

Read more: Supreme Court hears arguments on Chicago handgun law - KansasCity.com


I have never understood handgun bans. It only hurts the responsible citizens. Police can't be everywhere. I want my gun. I hope they strike down the DC Law not allowing people to carry Guns outside their home.
 
Bout time.
Gun bans do absoutly nothing as for public saftey.
Can't name one place where handguns are illegal and no crimes are committed by guns, crimminals can't get them, or don't have them anyway.

Just enforce the existing laws.
If a felon has a firearm, arrest his arse.
If a crimminal felon is caught using a firearm committing a crime, charge him with the whole nine yards instead of dropping the gun charge just to get him to plead gulty for other bullshat just to clear the backlog.
 



I love Texas, Shat I stay strapped. Situations go really, really bad when only the criminals have guns. I just want a chance to defend what's important to me if need be (My family all getting home safely). Times are getting tough for many, someone was killed at a Chase atm less than 3 miles from my home. Paper said he had taken $40 out of his account b4 he was robbed and killed.
 
jsupop33 said:
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/02/1784531/supreme-court-hears-arguments.html

The Supreme Court on Tuesday appeared poised to strike down strict state and local gun bans, though in the most judicially conservative way possible.

During a highly anticipated oral argument, the same justices who eliminated the District of Columbia's near-total handgun prohibition in 2008 suggested strongly that they thought that Chicago's handgun ban was equally incompatible with the Second Amendment.

"The right to keep and bear arms is right there. It's right there in the Bill of Rights," Justice Antonin Scalia said.

Read more: Supreme Court hears arguments on Chicago handgun law - KansasCity.com


I have never understood handgun bans. It only hurts the responsible citizens. Police can't be everywhere. I want my gun. I hope they strike down the DC Law not allowing people to carry Guns outside their home.
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I believe that the problem with the handguns is no with the local people it is the street thugs who get them illegally; so that means that a large percentage of hand guns reach people who would otherwise be turned down. This means that the importation and exportation laws must stiffen in order to keep thos illegal firearms from reaching certain parties, IMO.
 
jsupop33 said:
Kendrick,
It is better to have one than to have one pointed at you.
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I understand we live in a very dangerous world. And I also respect those responsible residents who wish to carry guns. But that device is not for me. I would probably get a taser before purchasing an actual handgun. I don't want to walk around strapped. To me I can't succumb to restoring to living in fear. That is what having a handgun would mean to me personally.
 
I don't think there's really a lot of people in Chicago that are not buying handguns b/c of this ban. I think people that want a gun to protect themselves already have a gun.


Crime will still be happening b/c these kids and grown fools that are out here running around illegally with guns and doing violent crimes...are going to continue to do just afterwards, if the ban is reversed. They aren't going to stop and think...."hmm...I wonder if he has a gun now since the ban got reversed"!! They don't think...that's the problem.

Folks aren't going to just jump up and go buy guns all of a sudden simply b/c the ban is reversed. And do we really want that?!?! I'm willing to bet money...these folks aren't going to learn how to properly shoot the gun, handle the gun, securely store the gun, etc. So that's opening up another can of worms for more irresponsible gun owners.

I have my gun card...was about to buy a gun b/c of everything going on in my condo building/neighborhood. Then I thought long and hard...what am I going to say to somebody if I have to pull this gun on him/her?!! Am I really going to pull the trigger? That's when I decided to spend my money moving! :lol:

I still might get one...I'm going to go to the range with a friend and shoot his gun. See how it feels...
 
kendrick said:
To me I can't succumb to restoring to living in fear. That is what having a handgun would mean to me personally.
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If that is your belief you really shouldn't be an owner/carrier of a handgun. It is good to see the thought people are putting into buying/carrying a consealed weapon, it's not for everyone.
 
kendrick said:
I understand we live in a very dangerous world. And I also respect those responsible residents who wish to carry guns. But that device is not for me. I would probably get a taser before purchasing an actual handgun. I don't want to walk around strapped. To me I can't succumb to restoring to living in fear. That is what having a handgun would mean to me personally.
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it's not succumbing to fear.
It's living in the reality of todays world.
You would be surprised at the people that carry a gun, where allowed, that you don't even know have one.

The people that make a big deal out of it by strapping on a .45 for all to see are the ones you see one the news.
Those are the only people these news reporters chase so they can run their usual "GUN NUTT" story.
The ones you don't see on the news, LIKE ME, don't even want a mofo to know I got it.
99% of people carrying guns don't show them to nobody except the people riding in the car with them when they take it out and put in in the console or glove compartment.
 
Blacknbengal said:
Applied for my permit to carry last Friday. Now, I can go inside restaraunts and other places strapped. :D
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That's the thing that I don't see what all the hub-bub comming from business about in other areas.
If you don't want guns in your place, all you have to do is post a sign at the entrance saying no firearms and your place instantly becomes a gun free zone.
That's all business/malls/etc., do in Mississippi and nobody complains.
 
I love my right to carry guns and if your in Texas -- I can get you a concealed handgun license. See my siggy.
 
Shat I stay strapped. Situations go really, really bad when only the criminals have guns. I just want a chance to defend what's important to me if need be (My family all getting home safely).
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Me too,

I carry mine to church.
 



kendrick said:
... that device is not for me ... I don't want to walk around strapped ...
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southsuburbs said:
...I still might get one...I'm going to go to the range with a friend and shoot his gun. See how it feels...
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Everyone ought to know how to handle a gun safely. You don't have to "Walk around strapped." You don't have to wave it around and brandish it. You should however, know how to use one. For me, it's very similar to driving a car. It's a useful skill that everybody ought to have.

Now, don't gt me wrong: You need to take a formal, sanctioned CLASS. Taught by a licensed INSTRUCTOR. In a safe facility. You also need to store your guns properly -- in a safe. Away from children. There is no excuse for irresponsible firearms ownership. Guns are not toys, they're (dangerous) tools.

That said, it's a very cool thing to know how to do -- and it's more fun than you can imagine.
 
kendrick said:
I understand we live in a very dangerous world. And I also respect those responsible residents who wish to carry guns. But that device is not for me. I would probably get a taser before purchasing an actual handgun. I don't want to walk around strapped. To me I can't succumb to restoring to living in fear. That is what having a handgun would mean to me personally.
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I'm with you. Later for this cowboy stuff.

Having said that, I don't believe in the "strictest" of gun laws. Despite my personal beliefs, the 2nd amendment is clear. I'm all for background checks, waiting periods and the like.

And someone brought up the castle doctrine. A man invades your home, you should use all neccessary force. Because your life is in danger at that point. But I draw the line at blasting guys that break into your car. I'm not talking about car-jacking. I'm talking about car theft - without you being in the car. Deadly force to protect your life is one thing. Deadly force to protect a car is something else entirely. My Bentley(if i had one) isn't worth anyone's life.
 
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JSU/99 said:
I'm with you. Later for this cowboy stuff.

Having said that, I don't believe in the "strictest" of gun laws. Despite my personal beliefs, the 2nd amendment is clear. I'm all for background checks, waiting periods and the like.

And someone brought up the castle doctrine. A man invades your home, you should use all neccessary force. Because your life is in danger at that point. But I draw the line at blasting guys that break into your car. I'm not talking about car-jacking. I'm talking about car theft - without you being in the car. Deadly force to protect your life is one thing. Deadly force to protect a car is something else entirely. My Bentley(if i had one) isn't worth anyone's life.
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I was thinking about something else as well in regards to this issue. The last couple of weeks we have seen a guy crash a plane into an office building because he was upset with government, and we have seen a man walk into a building with a cache of guns and go Matrix Neo style because he was upset with government.

With that being said, as we continue this horrible malaise of citizens not being able to find work, people facing foreclosure and suffering through other financial difficult to this poor economy, should we be concerned about those people with guns rather than the common criminals?

Another concern I'd always had was the allotment when it comes to the quantity of guns one is allowed to have. I am not against gun ownership. However, why do people feel the need to have multiple guns? There should be some type of limit per buyer.
 
JSU/99 said:
I'm with you. Later for this cowboy stuff.

Having said that, I don't believe in the "strictest" of gun laws. Despite my personal beliefs, the 2nd amendment is clear. I'm all for background checks, waiting periods and the like.

And someone brought up the castle doctrine. A man invades your home, you should use all neccessary force. Because your life is in danger at that point. But I draw the line at blasting guys that break into your car. I'm not talking about car-jacking. I'm talking about car theft - without you being in the car. Deadly force to protect your life is one thing. Deadly force to protect a car is something else entirely. My Bentley(if i had one) isn't worth anyone's life.
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Sorry.
But My Bentley, (if I had one), is my property that I paid for.
I open my front door and see someone inside it, so sorry.
They better be the best open field runners in the history of mankind.
They bought their demise on themselves and I have no pitty for these mofo's.

You want to be a car stealing a-hole, a bullet is the price you pay if you get caught sometimes.
Mofo would not think twice about my life so why should I think for a second about his/hers/whatever.
 
players said:
Sorry.
But My Bentley, (if I had one), is my property that I paid for.
I open my front door and see someone inside it, so sorry.
They better be the best open field runners in the history of mankind.
They bought their demise on themselves and I have no pitty for these mofo's.

You want to be a car stealing a-hole, a bullet is the price you pay if you get caught sometimes.
Mofo would not think twice about my life so why should I think for a second about his/hers/whatever.
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I have to agree with Players. If a person comes to break in my car, who knows what else he may come back to do. I have no time for guessing with criminal elements. With that being said, I would prefer not to kill someone over my vehicle but I am not willing to take that chance with my family's safety.

Also, I do not feel sorry for folks shot while trying to rob or carjack. You made your decision, now you must live with the outcome. In economics, it is called the Cost of Opportunity.
 
Blacknbengal said:
Well, I'm shooting first and answering questions later at the police station.
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jsupop33 said:
better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
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Storeowner in Vicksburg that 2 Houston gangbangers tried to rob, started fightingthem, gave car chase, shot it out with the robbers, and the police found one dead at the bottom of a highway overpass this past weekend.
The store owner shot and killed the guy robbing and shooting at him with an assault rifle
A week later, no charges have been filed or will be filed against the storeowner.

PLUS the storeowner don't have to worry about these 2 anymore.
One is dead and the other is on the run with his photo all over the news.

Houston man wanted in connection with robbery

Stewart says Flores and another man allegedly robbed the store last Thursday before being chased down and one of them killed by the store owner. The body of 25-year-old Jose Arenas of San Elizario, Texas, was found the next day below an Interstate 20 overpass
 
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