Diwali Message from President Obama

[ROYAL BLUE]

You are the one that’s always on here talking about the “Christian’s†in this country. Are you sure that she is a Christian and she practiced Christianity? Is she in hell, no, because Christ has not returned and the final judgment is complete?
I am saying you are under the false opinion that she was a Christian and I am attempting to make you understand that every one baptized is not a Christian, doggone that’s common sense. Paul discussed the same subject in several of his letters.

You have a problem Obama for lighting a lamp and saying that he is not a Christian. Now I am saying the same about your girl Pocahontas, and you are having a problem. You think because she changed her name to “Rebecca†that places her name in the Lamb’s Book of Lifeâ€

So, are you saying that you know without a doubt in your infinite wisdom that Obama is not a Christian, because he lit a lamp?

Christian National Day of Prayer, what's that. You just agreed that this does not solidify one’s Christianity. So attending a National Day of Prayer means absolutely nothing.

Question: How many Christian National Day of Prayer have you attended.

.....and again; when did I say that "every one baptized is a Christian"? I never made that statement, and I never stated Pocahontas was a Christian because she changed her name to Rebecca. I stated the facts, she accepted Christ, converted to Christianity, and was baptized.......that's all. How did black folks learn of Christ, and who brought the doctrine to black folks?

All one would have to do is "SPIRITUALLY" look at what Obama supports, and one would know he's not a Christian. Christ told us to test the fruits. Well, I tested Obama's, and his fruits are wicked. A politician who supports abortion is no better than a thug who engages in a drive by shooting........murderer.

I have never attended the national day of prayer in DC. The president was invited, and he refused to attend any of the events. I guess it's impossible for evil and good to dwell together. Why did Obama cancel on the Christian brothers and sister, but gladly participate/glorify in false religion? It makes no sense. If he truly wanted to be politically correct, then he should have canceled attending "all" religious events. That would have been the fair thing to do.

 

[Dr H..]

and again; when did I say that "every one baptized is a Christian"? I never made that statement, and

I never stated Pocahontas was a Christian because she changed her name to Rebecca. I stated the facts, she accepted Christ, converted to Christianity, and was baptized.......that's all. How did black folks learn of Christ, and who brought the doctrine to black folks

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You said:

If Pocahontas wasn't a Christian, then why would she get baptized, and change her name to Rebecca

Exactly what are you saying in these statements?

Are not saying that she was a Christian, since "she accepted Christ, changed her name converted to Christianity, and was baptized" You seriously need to go back and read your comments. There is something called an implied statement.

How did black folks learn of Christ, and who brought the doctrine to black folks?

Black "Folks" knew about Christ long before Whites. First it was the Jews then it was "Blacks" it was the Ethiopian Eunich, that was Baptized by Philip (Acts 8). He then spreaded Christanity to Ethiopia (Land of Ham / Africa). Afterwards, Islam entered various parts of Africa due to the invasion of "I think Muhommad and others during the crusades"

Read you history.

Christanity was introduced to the Europeans after it was taken to Africa, whic included the Middle East "Israel"

In fact Christanity and Judiasm is still being practiced in Ethiopian. And if you do just a tad bit of research, you will discover some of the oldest Christian Churches in the world are located in Ethiopian / Africa. Again if you read your bible, you will discover that "Blacks" knew of God, perhaps before the Hebrews [Moses] go and do a study on the geneology of Jethro, Moses father-in-law, he was a man "with dark skin" During that particular time,they were not concerned about "skin color" in fact the Hebrews a people with dark skin, not "African Black" but they had dark skin and as of 2010, the original Hebrews / Jews has dark complexions, not that mess you see on TV.

You tested Obama's fruit? Please explain.

Does all Christian celebrate "Christmas"

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

You tested Obama's fruit? Please explain.

The bad fruit is below on a silver platter.


"Obama's sick voting record"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIlS0_rArks&feature=fvw



Alan Keyes and Barack Obama speak about homosexuality


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOXJI-fZmQ&feature=related



Obama Vs. Keyes: Christianity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-yUCg0TASc&feature=related



Barack Obama's Denial Of Medical Assistance To Born Alive Infants

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z22Aem5_r44



Obama mocks the Bible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sy9kMxOEVs

 

[Dr H..]

RB

You forgot somethign about the "Fruit Testing" if you are quoting a scripture, make sure you quote the entire scripture.


In the Sermon on the Mount, how did Jesus Christ tell us we would “know†(discern) people? (I believe this includes ourselves first of all and foremost.)

“…the beam that is in thine own eye?…behold, a beam is in thine own eye?...FIRST cast out the beam out of thine own eye…†and then our LORD says “Ye shall know them by their fruits…by their fruits ye shall know them.†(Matt. 7:3-5, 16, 20)

First Christ deals with us at the heart level. When He does we are then enabled to “see clearly.†But not until then!

“Thou hypocrite, FIRST cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and THEN shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.†Matthew 7:5

So, since you are the supreme judge of Obama, have you removed the beam from your own eye. Have you cleaned you the mess in your family's life. Are you living in accordance with the word. If you have not, you are not in the position to "judge" anyone, not Obama or your own family.

Johns said "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

Have you tested the spirit of those on YouTube or are you taking their word for face value? Have you tested your own spirit or are you just another "Hater"

Do you have any respect for Obama any at all an what he is attemping to do for individuals like yourself.

Question: Did or did you not say Pocahontas was a Christian. Do Christians drink and make whiskey. Do they own slaves and rape female slaves.

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

RB

You forgot somethign about the "Fruit Testing" if you are quoting a scripture, make sure you quote the entire scripture.


In the Sermon on the Mount, how did Jesus Christ tell us we would “know” (discern) people? (I believe this includes ourselves first of all and foremost.)

“…the beam that is in thine own eye?…behold, a beam is in thine own eye?...FIRST cast out the beam out of thine own eye…” and then our LORD says “Ye shall know them by their fruits…by their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:3-5, 16, 20)

First Christ deals with us at the heart level. When He does we are then enabled to “see clearly.” But not until then!

“Thou hypocrite, FIRST cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and THEN shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.” Matthew 7:5

So, since you are the supreme judge of Obama, have you removed the beam from your own eye. Have you cleaned you the mess in your family's life. Are you living in accordance with the word. If you have not, you are not in the position to "judge" anyone, not Obama or your own family.

Johns said "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

Have you tested the spirit of those on YouTube or are you taking their word for face value? Have you tested your own spirit or are you just another "Hater"

Do you have any respect for Obama any at all an what he is attemping to do for individuals like yourself.

Question: Did or did you not say Pocahontas was a Christian. Do Christians drink and make whiskey. Do they own slaves and rape female slaves.

All men fall short of the glory of God, and that includes every human being, prophet, priest, pastor, and etc. Paul stated that every time he went out to do right, he ended up doing wrong. DH, I know that all Christians fall short of the glory of God. The reason Christ stated a person should get the beam out of his own eye is because that person is criticizing others for doing something he's doing himself. How can I tell people I'm against abortion, but turn around, commit adultery, and give the woman money to abort the evidence? That's hypocritical. How can I tell other people say no to drugs, and I'm still smoking weed? That's hypocritical. How can I tell other people not to have sex before marriage, and I fornicate weekly? That's a hypocrite. What's my point? We all have a weakness, but it doesn't mean we didn't repent, and ask forgiveness of our sins........that's Christian. What's not Christian is when we mess up publicly, encourage others to do wrong, and refuse to inform the public we made a mistake.......that's not Christian. We are instructed to correct our brethren and sisters when we see them going astray. For example, I was watching the Florida game last night, and the commentators stated that Tim Tebow is deep in his Christian faith. They stated that his teammates make sure Tebow is not put in a position that would compromise his Christian practice.....whenever they hang out together. Dude is a virgin, and he intends on staying that way until marriage. The point I'm trying to make is those players look out for their Christian brother, and do their best to lead him out of temptation, which is what the Lord's prayer clearly states........that's Christian.

Tim Tebow's Interview And Testimony With ESPN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGIRVNgyQLI

DH, I test all fruits including family and myself. I take what people say and line it up to the word to see if God approves. If God doesn't approve, then an alarm goes off in my head, and I investigate morally to see where they are spiritually. If I find several things wrong with the person's belief, then I spiritually know the fruit is bad. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know if you hear a person encouraging children to have sex, partake of drugs, and abort babies, then he/she is not a Christian. You have never heard me say I support abortion, homosexuality, sorcery, and etc.........never.

As for Pocahontas, again, I stated the facts, she accepted Christ, converted to Christianity, and was baptized.......that's all. 1 Peter 3:21 There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.

Question: Do Christians drink and make whiskey. Do they own slaves and rape female slaves.

Again, Jeremiah 4:22 “ For My people are foolish, They have not known Me. They are stupid children, And they have no understanding. They are wise to do evil, But to do good they have no knowledge.”

Do I have respect for Obama, and what he is attempting to do for individuals like myself? No, I don't respect people who take the side of the world over Christ. Every thing I have is from God, not Lincoln, Fred Douglass, Dr. King, Bush, Rush, Obama and others. I know where my blessings come from, and it certainly aint from no dying man. That's why I could boldly say I wasn't in a recession. My income increased because I relied on God to provide.......instead of Obama.

 

[Dr H..]

The reason Christ stated a person should get the beam out of his own eye is because that person is criticizing others for doing something he's doing himself.

The teaching is if you are in sin [regardless of the sin or have a fault] you are not in the position of talk about someone else. Therefore, since you are not perfect [have faults] you are not in the position to talk about the President or anyone else.

Dude is a virgin,

How do you know, because someone say so? Are you that "stupid"

I heard that about the QB from Florida, I think if you listen to the comments "more closely" their intent was to say he was a "clean cut kid" and his teammates, kept him "protect" him so he can continue to play ball. It had nothing to do with his Christanity. Because the commentators say something "if that the gospel" are they with him 24/7, no. They like yourself, has no idea what dude is doing at this moment in time.

So you can care less about health care for those that cannot afford it.

If what you are saying is true, then you are in sin. Because God said respect and obey the leaders of the country (Obama) Human Government. Rom. 13:6. So what you are saying, is you do not respect God's decision to place Obama as the President of the US.

Therefore, if you are the Christian you say you are, you have no choice but to respect Obama.

How do I know this:

13:1 God has established three institutions to control life in our dispensation:
the family (Gen. 2:18-25), the civil government (Gen. 9:1-7), and the
church (Acts 2). In each institution there are authorities to whom we need
to submit for God's will to go forward.

13:2 Refusal to submit to one's government is equivalent to refusing to submit to God.


You said that Obama is an unbeliever "Read This" Romans 13:8-10


Paul had previously glorified the importance of love among believers (12:9-10; 1 Cor. 13). Now he urged this attitude toward all people, though unbelievers are primarily in view in this chapter. The connecting link in the argument is our obligations to government (v. 7) and to our fellow citizens (v. 8; Gal. 5:13-15).

So, here again you are in violation, of the very scripture [book] you are proclaiming to live by. Now what your excuse, ok go ahead and use "we all fall short" well not you, because you live by the book. Now, you need to go back and read and understand about the "light pole" in your own eye.

If you are not praying for Obama "as the President" you are in sin, because 1 Timothy 2 said" I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority;...

Obama, as the President of the United States "has rule over you "government" and for all men"

The "all men" include the saved and unsaved, Christian and non Christian, all race, creeds and color. Paul undoubtedly meant all kinds of people rather than every single individual. The king at the time Paul wrote this epistle was Nero, an unbeliever for whom Paul specifically told his readers to pray.

The more you attempt to condemn Obama by useage of the bible. I can continue to show you, that you are not the person you think you are.

 

[JayRob]

That's not the subject at hand, the subject at hand is president Obama participating in idolatry; and slapping God in the face by not only participating, but doing it publicly. That's like your child smoking weed in your presence and giving the ok for others to do it as well.

Why would Obama cancel attending the Christian National Day of Prayer, but had no problem attending prayer for false religions?

Yes, both are religions, but one is false and the other is real. Christ is the only savior in this world, and those who follow Him are called Christ-man/Christian.

Hindu has "nothing" to do with Jesus Christ/YHVH..........nothing.

It doesn't have to be the subject at hand, but it's related to the subject at hand. The simple question was, "The simple fact is that Christianity came FROM Hinduism. Explain how the overwhelming similarities of the two religions came about."
Thanks in advance for answering.

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

The teaching is if you are in sin [regardless of the sin or have a fault] you are not in the position of talk about someone else. Therefore, since you are not perfect [have faults] you are not in the position to talk about the President or anyone else.

The scriptures below say I have the right to speak against those who bring evil doctrine contrary to the word of God. Paul has made it clear that Christians are to mark people like Obama, and avoid him and his evil doctrine. A Christian would not support abortion(murder), and homosexuality. Where in scripture does Christ say it's ok to support murderers and gay folks? I ask the question because Obama says that God has no say in what happens on the earth He created and placed man on. I thought that was a dumb statement for Obama to make considering the fact God hand picked Obama to be president of the best country on earth. How can Obama say God should stay out of public policy, when it's God that put him in the seat of presidency? If God doesn't have a say in public policy, why does God hand pick kings, presidents and other leaders?

2 John 1:9 Whoever transgresses[d] and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.

2 John 1:10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;

2 John 1:11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

Avoid Divisive Persons

Romans 16:17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.

Romans 16:18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus[d] Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

How do you know, because someone say so? Are you that "stupid"

.......no more stupid than folks who believe Obama is a practicing Christian. It takes guts to support a man who rips Christianity apart, but embraces false religions.

You said.........If what you are saying is true, then you are in sin. Because God said respect and obey the leaders of the country (Obama) Human Government. Rom. 13:6. So what you are saying, is you do not respect God's decision to place Obama as the President of the US.

Therefore, if you are the Christian you say you are, you have no choice but to respect Obama.

How do I know this:

13:1 God has established three institutions to control life in our dispensation:
the family (Gen. 2:18-25), the civil government (Gen. 9:1-7), and the
church (Acts 2). In each institution there are authorities to whom we need
to submit for God's will to go forward.

13:2 Refusal to submit to one's government is equivalent to refusing to submit to God. If you are not praying for Obama "as the President" you are in sin, because 1 Timothy 2 said" I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority;...

I have rights in this country and one of those rights is my freedom of speech. I can boldly say what I want as long as it's the truth. Does this freedom bother you? America is such a good place that it allows me to speak against leaders who do wrong. Now, where did I see this before,.........Oh, Dr. King and other folks spoke against our government because our government was "MORALLY" wrong. Was Dr. King wrong for speaking out against our government?

I always pray for Obama to turn his life over to God, and stop allowing the devil to use him by agreeing with the world instead of Christ.

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

It doesn't have to be the subject at hand, but it's related to the subject at hand. The simple question was, "The simple fact is that Christianity came FROM Hinduism. Explain how the overwhelming similarities of the two religions came about."
Thanks in advance for answering.

If Christ came from the Hindu religion, then that would mean Christ is false, and I'm wasting my time serving a false savior; however, I know Christ did not come from a false religion, therefore I serve the real savior. Also, if they were similar, there would be some mention of Hindu in the bible.

 

[Dr H..]

RB, in simple terms you are a joke, because you are always "preaching" bible and Obama. Now, you have changed from bible to freedom of speech. Sure, you have freedom os speech. But, thats under the Constitution [man made], not of God.

Was Dr. King a Christian? If so why did he speak out against the Government, that's not the character [according to you] the sign of a "good" Christian. There are thousands of "so called Christians" that speaks out against the government are they wrong. Some of these same individuals removed the "Ten Commandments" from public buildings are they wrong, but you support them?

Some of the same "Christians" voted against Public Health Care, but you support them.

Where in scripture does Christ say it's ok to support murderers and gay folks?

Where in the scriptured does Christ tell you not to support the same. But he also tells you to love them, does He not. Where in the scriptures does Christ talk about either one?

Jesus did teach "He is without sin cast the first stone"

Although, He was talking about adultery, but that is also a universal teaching, as it relates to anyone accuses someone else of a "crime" are you ready to cast the first stone.


Exactly what did Obama mean when he said "God shoudl stay out of public policy" please explain.

Do you understand John 2:10, is Obama preaching, if not this does not apply? He is not a Priest, performing Priestly duties in the White House. Have you ever invited Obama to your home?

RB, you really need to read your comments.

 

[JayRob]

If Christ came from the Hindu religion, then that would mean Christ is false, and I'm wasting my time serving a false savior; however, I know Christ did not come from a false religion, therefore I serve the real savior. Also, if they were similar, there would be some mention of Hindu in the bible.

There's no "if" about it. I clearly showed you that it did.
As far as it being mentioned in the bible, why would authors who stole from another religion give that religion credit? If that was the case, then folks would end up going to the source, which would be Hinduism.

Still though, how can you explain the many similarities between Christianity and Hinduism?

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

RB, in simple terms you are a joke, because you are always "preaching" bible and Obama. Now, you have changed from bible to freedom of speech. Sure, you have freedom os speech. But, thats under the Constitution [man made], not of God. Was Dr. King a Christian? If so why did he speak out against the Government, that's not the character [according to you] the sign of a "good" Christian. There are thousands of "so called Christians" that speaks out against the government are they wrong. Some of these same individuals removed the "Ten Commandments" from public buildings are they wrong, but you support them?

Once again you choose to ignore the word of God. The word of God states we are to obey the law of the land as long as it doesn't cause us to disobey God's law......common sense. Freedom of speech falls right in line with the word of God, and our creators made sure Americans understood the rights we have are from the Almighty........not man. God gave us the freedoms Americans have, and if you have a problem with me speaking against evil people, then I suggest you take it up with God. People like Fred Douglass, Dr. King, and many others made it their business to exercise their God given freedom of speech; therefore I too will do as they so successfully demonstrated, and exercise mine. It's our Christian duty to exercise our God given rights. Also, any so called Christian that would argue to remove the 10 commandments is not a Christian, but a fake........just like many who support murderers, homosexuality, and false religions. You understand dontcha Doc!?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…..

The purpose of government, as expressed by our founders, was to protect our God-given rights. It is crucial to understand this premise found in the declaration, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. Our rights come from our Creator, not from government. If the government can give rights, then it follows that it can take rights. If God gave us the rights, then only God can take the rights. The purpose of government is to make sure your rights are protected. God is the restrainer of tyrannical government. Acknowledging God keeps our leaders honest. The belief that there is an ultimate authority to which they are personally accountable keeps the power-hungry in check. But if God is no longer over government, to whom are our leaders accountable? America is teetering on the edge of tyranny.

What happens if God is removed from the picture? What happens if America and American law becomes secularized? What happens when they tell us that there is separation of church and state and we must keep our Faith to ourselves? What happens when "One nation under God" no longer acknowledges God? If God is not acknowledged, and government becomes the granter of rights, then who keeps an eye on "government"? If God is the granter of rights, then government must answer to God. If there is no God, then the government is god, and government determines what rights we have. http://www.covenantnews.com/daubenmire060727.htm

.....joke on you?:noidea:

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

Some of the same "Christians" voted against Public Health Care, but you support them.

Where in scripture does Christ say it's ok to support murderers and gay folks?

Where in the scriptured does Christ tell you not to support the same. But he also tells you to love them, does He not. Where in the scriptures does Christ talk about either one?

Jesus did teach "He is without sin cast the first stone"

Although, He was talking about adultery, but that is also a universal teaching, as it relates to anyone accuses someone else of a "crime" are you ready to cast the first stone.


Exactly what did Obama mean when he said "God shoudl stay out of public policy" please explain.

Do you understand John 2:10, is Obama preaching, if not this does not apply? He is not a Priest, performing Priestly duties in the White House. Have you ever invited Obama to your home?

RB, you really need to read your comments.

Americans already have Public Health Care in the emergency room. In fact, if you get an STD, break an arm, or have heart problems, you don't have to show an insurance card to get treated. What's the problem with the health care system again?

Matthew 15:18-20 18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, sexual immorality, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. 20 These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”

Mark 7:20-23 20 And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, sexual immorality, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”

I posted the video in #78, go back and listen to him attack God, Christ, OT, and NT......just sad.

Yes, I understand 2 John 1:10 If anyone comes to you..............

You don't have to be a priest to understand the verse applies to any human being regardless of title. Obama should not have invited the false priest into the white house. If Obama is not a priest, then why is he ripping Christianity, and joyfully supporting false religions? Surely, you can comprehend the word "anyone", and that word would include Obama as well.

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

There's no "if" about it. I clearly showed you that it did.
As far as it being mentioned in the bible, why would authors who stole from another religion give that religion credit? If that was the case, then folks would end up going to the source, which would be Hinduism.

Still though, how can you explain the many similarities between Christianity and Hinduism?

.....not from the Christian bible.

There is no explanation because the Hindu religion is no where to be found in the Christian bible.......that simple.

There is only one source connected to the eternity, and that source is Christ Jesus. All other ground/religion is sinking sand.......that simple. In other words, Christianity is absolute, and this comes from the very words of Christ.

 

[JayRob]

.....not from the Christian bible.

There is no explanation because the Hindu religion is no where to be found in the Christian bible.......that simple.

There is only one source connected to the eternity, and that source is Christ Jesus. All other ground/religion is sinking sand.......that simple. In other words, Christianity is absolute, and this comes from the very words of Christ.

Keep living in your closed world of denial if that helps you feel better. You know exactly what I'm talking about, but go ahead and choose to ignore whats right there in black and white.

You still refuse to answer the question. In all reality, if you do, you will have to admit that Christianity is a borrowed religion. The fact that you don't and won't clearly shows your dishonesty and lack of zeal for wanting to know true history.

 

[ROYAL BLUE]

Keep living in your closed world of denial if that helps you feel better. You know exactly what I'm talking about, but go ahead and choose to ignore whats right there in black and white.

You still refuse to answer the question. In all reality, if you do, you will have to admit that Christianity is a borrowed religion. The fact that you don't and won't clearly shows your dishonesty and lack of zeal for wanting to know true history.

Yes, Christians are called out of the world. We don't bring filth of other religions into the pure truth of Christianity. Either the sinner will accept Christ as the only way, or he will accept Satan's way. Having said that, the path to eternal life is a very straight and narrow road. Every now and then Christians will get off course, but we also know God expects us to get back on course because there are no detours to heaven..........it's a one way. I hope to see you on the same course.

 

[JayRob]

Yes, Christians are called out of the world. We don't bring filth of other religions into the pure truth of Christianity. Either the sinner will accept Christ as the only way, or he will accept Satan's way. Having said that, the path to eternal life is a very straight and narrow road. Every now and then Christians will get off course, but we also know God expects us to get back on course because there are no detours to heaven..........it's a one way. I hope to see you on the same course.

Still avoiding the subject I see.
As you say, "if you don't bring filth of other religions into the pure truth of Christianit", HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE EXTREME AND OBVIOUS SIMILARITIES?! I ask again, explain.

 

[Dr H..]

RB
Seriously, there were other religious beliefs before there was Christianity, sometimes you have to just read. In fact the years Moses spent in Egypt and what he learned were part of the Old Testament. You do not understand the bible as much as you think. In fact God took what Moses and the Hebrews understood and re-focused what heathens were practicing into “Christianityâ€￾.
Here are a few examples; the practice of giving “tithingâ€￾ was practiced by Abraham, before the Law.

The Egyptians were practicing circumcision [dating to around 2400 B.C]. Long before Christianity and Moses, the Jewish people borrowed the practice of circumcision from the Egyptians; God took this same “conceptâ€￾ and placed it in the NT “circumcision of the heartâ€￾. Why, because the Hebrews understood the meaning of circumcision via Moses and living in Egypt. Now, God said circumcision is a type of bond between the Hebrews and Me. It’s a tribal condition a covenant, between God and His people.

Do you think, God just revealed to the Hebrews only, are you crazy. God revealed Himself to Job, he was not a Hebrew of Jew, neither was Adam or Eve.

Public Health, don’t be stupid. You know exactly what I am referring too. Everyone does not have access to Health Care; it has been proven over and over again. And speaking of “sexual immoralityâ€￾ Jesus said Lover the person, but hate the sin, which was part of his teachings, right or wrong. This goes back to “Malachi 1:3; Romans 9:13â€￾, God love Jacob and hate Esau. God hated the behavior of Esau. So as a “Christianâ€￾ how can you not love those you pointed out in your comment.

2 John 2:10 “anyoneâ€￾ if you look at the context of the epistle, John is addressing “False Teachers / Preachersâ€￾ Therefore, anyone is referring to those teaching false doctrine.

Question: Has Obama been teaching false doctrine, has he been to your home attempting to teach you or your family a doctrine other than the Doctrine of Christ. Has he claimed to be a preacher? If not this scripture does not apply.

If you are going to use this scripture, to justify your opinion of Obama, you are also in sin. Because the remainder of the scripture statesâ€￾neither bid him God speedâ€￾ the word neither is a particle of qualified negation. Since you said that you “pray for himâ€￾ which is a form of “God speedâ€￾ you are a partaker of evil deeds. Therefore, you are practicing an "evil deed"

Question: do you believe in the practice “Let your conscience be your guideâ€￾

 

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Still avoiding the subject I see.
As you say, "if you don't bring filth of other religions into the pure truth of Christianit", HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE EXTREME AND OBVIOUS SIMILARITIES?! I ask again, explain.

....and again I state, it's not written in the Christian bible. I know it's hard for you to understand why I see things the way I do, but it's the discipline in me to stay the course, and not get side tracked by Satan's attempt to make Christianity look false. I see Christ as truth, but others see him as copied from other religions. If you too see Christ as copied/false, then we will always be on opposite sides.......always.

 

[Dr H..]

RB, why don’t you answer JR question, I know why, because truthfully answering his question will be admitting he is “somewhat correct†Christianity, roots is an extension of Judaism, from the Old Testament, Jews and other civilizations that were part of the Old Testament. Whether you will admit it or not Moses was educated in the Egyptian Educational System and he intentionally or unintentionally, brought a lot of his learning to the Hebrews. When the Hebrew was in Egypt, they learned from the Egyptians and they taught it to their children. In fact, if you study the history of Israel you will learn that they spent hundreds of years in “captivity†by various cultures to include Babylon and Syria. Naturally, some of their traditions and customs would have become part of the traditions, customs and religious beliefs of the Hebrews / Israel.

Now, Christianity, like Islam and other religions started in the on the African Continent / the Middle East. And because of the proximity, their cultures and beliefs were intertwined; this was a result of inter-marriage, travel, commerce and so on. In fact the “wise men [Magi, Magus, which is Persian]†that announced Jesus birth were not “Christians†they were from the East and practiced Zoroastrianism, which is the oldest religion in the world along with Hinduism.

Regardless of what you may say or think. If you study / read Zoroastrianism and its doctrines you will learn that most religions thereafter adopted some its teaching and practices [including Christianity], such as the concepts of heaven and hell and a virgin-born savior.

Am I belittling, Christianity, absolutely not! However, I am honest and spiritual enough to acknowledge the truth. If the truth be known, Jesus did not live his life only in Bethlehem. According to the Gospel Matthew 2: 13 – 23, He was taken to Egypt by Mary and Joseph and they remained there until the death of Herod and this was before He started His public ministry and consider, Nazareth, in Galilee was part of Palestine. Considering, Christ lived in Egypt, don’t you think some of their practices “rubbed off†on Him.
If you ever take a moment to study “Religion†you will learn that Christianity, is only 2,000 “give or take a few years†old, whereas Hinduism, Zoroastrianism and other religions are thousands of years.

It appears that you are mixed up on whom you worship, Christianity or Christ.

 

[JayRob]

....and again I state, it's not written in the Christian bible. I know it's hard for you to understand why I see things the way I do, but it's the discipline in me to stay the course, and not get side tracked by Satan's attempt to make Christianity look false. I see Christ as truth, but others see him as copied from other religions. If you too see Christ as copied/false, then we will always be on opposite sides.......always.

No, it's not hard for me to understand. I'm simply astute enough to realize that you're afraid of admitting the truth. It's so obvious an elementary school student can see the similarities.

Tithing, circumcision, temple building, sacrificing, etc., are mostly copied from other religions. A large part of Judaism is copied from Egyptian and Eastern religions just like parts of Islam is copied from the Old Testament.

Question: Can you tell me if parts of Islam writings weren't copied from the Bible?

 

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RB
Seriously, there were other religious beliefs before there was Christianity, sometimes you have to just read. In fact the years Moses spent in Egypt and what he learned were part of the Old Testament. You do not understand the bible as much as you think. In fact God took what Moses and the Hebrews understood and re-focused what heathens were practicing into “Christianity”.
Here are a few examples; the practice of giving “tithing” was practiced by Abraham, before the Law.

The Egyptians were practicing circumcision [dating to around 2400 B.C]. Long before Christianity and Moses, the Jewish people borrowed the practice of circumcision from the Egyptians; God took this same “concept” and placed it in the NT “circumcision of the heart”. Why, because the Hebrews understood the meaning of circumcision via Moses and living in Egypt. Now, God said circumcision is a type of bond between the Hebrews and Me. It’s a tribal condition a covenant, between God and His people.

Do you think, God just revealed to the Hebrews only, are you crazy. God revealed Himself to Job, he was not a Hebrew of Jew, neither was Adam or Eve.

Public Health, don’t be stupid. You know exactly what I am referring too. Everyone does not have access to Health Care; it has been proven over and over again. And speaking of “sexual immorality” Jesus said Lover the person, but hate the sin, which was part of his teachings, right or wrong. This goes back to “Malachi 1:3; Romans 9:13”, God love Jacob and hate Esau. God hated the behavior of Esau. So as a “Christian” how can you not love those you pointed out in your comment.

2 John 2:10 “anyone” if you look at the context of the epistle, John is addressing “False Teachers / Preachers” Therefore, anyone is referring to those teaching false doctrine.

Question: Has Obama been teaching false doctrine, has he been to your home attempting to teach you or your family a doctrine other than the Doctrine of Christ. Has he claimed to be a preacher? If not this scripture does not apply.

If you are going to use this scripture, to justify your opinion of Obama, you are also in sin. Because the remainder of the scripture states”neither bid him God speed” the word neither is a particle of qualified negation. Since you said that you “pray for him” which is a form of “God speed” you are a partaker of evil deeds. Therefore, you are practicing an "evil deed"

Question: do you believe in the practice “Let your conscience be your guide”

DH, you and I differ on many beliefs starting with the race of Adam and Eve.

I never stated God revealed Himself just to Jews. When did I ever post that statement?

Yes, everyone in this country has access to health care if they are injured or ill.....don't lie. No where in the bible or constitution does it say government is responsible for providing health care to the people........no where.

Question: Has Obama been teaching false doctrine, has he been to your home attempting to teach you or your family a doctrine other than the Doctrine of Christ. Has he claimed to be a preacher? If not this scripture does not apply.

Once again you're wrong about 2 John 1:10 and how it relates to Obama. 2 John 1:10 clearly states if "ANYONE" comes to you........ Do you know what the word "anyone" means? If you do, please give me your definition of the word "anyone".

If you are going to use this scripture, to justify your opinion of Obama, you are also in sin. Because the remainder of the scripture states”neither bid him God speed” the word neither is a particle of qualified negation. Since you said that you “pray for him” which is a form of “God speed” you are a partaker of evil deeds. Therefore, you are practicing an "evil deed"

Please learn to comprehend what you read. This is what I posted previously in post #84............I always pray for Obama to turn his life over to God, and stop allowing the devil to use him by agreeing with the world instead of Christ.

How do you comprehend that as partaking in his evil deeds?

 

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RB, why don’t you answer JR question, I know why, because truthfully answering his question will be admitting he is “somewhat correct†Christianity, roots is an extension of Judaism, from the Old Testament, Jews and other civilizations that were part of the Old Testament. Whether you will admit it or not Moses was educated in the Egyptian Educational System and he intentionally or unintentionally, brought a lot of his learning to the Hebrews. When the Hebrew was in Egypt, they learned from the Egyptians and they taught it to their children. In fact, if you study the history of Israel you will learn that they spent hundreds of years in “captivity†by various cultures to include Babylon and Syria. Naturally, some of their traditions and customs would have become part of the traditions, customs and religious beliefs of the Hebrews / Israel.

Now, Christianity, like Islam and other religions started in the on the African Continent / the Middle East. And because of the proximity, their cultures and beliefs were intertwined; this was a result of inter-marriage, travel, commerce and so on. In fact the “wise men [Magi, Magus, which is Persian]†that announced Jesus birth were not “Christians†they were from the East and practiced Zoroastrianism, which is the oldest religion in the world along with Hinduism.

Regardless of what you may say or think. If you study / read Zoroastrianism and its doctrines you will learn that most religions thereafter adopted some its teaching and practices [including Christianity], such as the concepts of heaven and hell and a virgin-born savior.

Am I belittling, Christianity, absolutely not! However, I am honest and spiritual enough to acknowledge the truth. If the truth be known, Jesus did not live his life only in Bethlehem. According to the Gospel Matthew 2: 13 – 23, He was taken to Egypt by Mary and Joseph and they remained there until the death of Herod and this was before He started His public ministry and consider, Nazareth, in Galilee was part of Palestine. Considering, Christ lived in Egypt, don’t you think some of their practices “rubbed off†on Him.
If you ever take a moment to study “Religion†you will learn that Christianity, is only 2,000 “give or take a few years†old, whereas Hinduism, Zoroastrianism and other religions are thousands of years.

It appears that you are mixed up on whom you worship, Christianity or Christ.

DH, if you choose to believe Christ is from a copied religion, then by all means enjoy your belief. I choose to believe that Christ is Holy and pure. The Son of God doesn't need to copy from man kind when He has the Almighty to copy from.

Now, I can see human beings that sin copy, but not Christ because He's perfect.

 

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No, it's not hard for me to understand. I'm simply astute enough to realize that you're afraid of admitting the truth. It's so obvious an elementary school student can see the similarities.

Tithing, circumcision, temple building, sacrificing, etc., are mostly copied from other religions. A large part of Judaism is copied from Egyptian and Eastern religions just like parts of Islam is copied from the Old Testament.

Question: Can you tell me if parts of Islam writings weren't copied from the Bible?

I don't expect you to understand on a spiritual level. All I can do is tell you why I believe the way I do, and pray God open your eyes to see truth.