SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
It seems like this is your christmas wish dude....lol
Georgian sues college over hazing incident
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It seems like this is your christmas wish dude....lol
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
Bruh I could care less one way or another. :lol: If you let someone hurt you in any process that means you let them. They can't do to you what you want allow. :lol: I just find it funny how yall going out your way to say these kids ain't getting paid, when they are. These lawyers don't keep advising their parents to file law suits for nothing. I guess this just like the drug dealers who keep going to the same corner selling dope, saying they want get caught like the other one.
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
A lot of time lawyers don't have all NEEDED information to advise correctly...
I'm sure once they run into those signed and sealed documents we won't be hearing too much more about this... That kid obviously must have not given his lawyer ALL of the details....
Smoke
Gym Junkie
:lol: Negro...so you saying...if these kids don't win...the lawyers STILL ain't gettin paid?!?!?!?! Man come on Cee......These are LAWYERS.....they gettin paid if they lose or win mane....THATS 90% of why they advising. Casue that shyt looks winable to the parents
~walks out~
s phi s
The One Man Band
J, I feel you about the papers and all, and I am no law expert. But look at the example I posted. That lady disobeyed a police officer and dared him to tase her ON TAPE, and got a $40,000 settlement from something she admitted she was wrong for.
The papers, in theory, should eliminate the liability. The kid that just died at PV signed similar papers. But just this past week, PV was named in a $97 million lawsuit. Don't think PV will lose, but it would be naive to think they wouldn't offer some type of settlement rather than spending the money to defend it. And the settlement won't be anywhere NEAR what is being asked.
The papers, in theory, should eliminate the liability. The kid that just died at PV signed similar papers. But just this past week, PV was named in a $97 million lawsuit. Don't think PV will lose, but it would be naive to think they wouldn't offer some type of settlement rather than spending the money to defend it. And the settlement won't be anywhere NEAR what is being asked.
JR
Well-Known Member
Nope Frat. I can't agree on that one. It opens up a pandora's box then. If it had happened at SU or during a band trip.....then yeah I would write them a check. But them folks left campus and willingly went to nowhereland to a trailer to get initiated into an organization not even recognized by the band. Some section frat. Nah man. That will allow too many fools to continue to do that and only have the school pay the cost. Every school would be at the mercy of the system everytime something happens off campus involving some organization members even though they were not on official school business.
If I was SU I would counter sue them mofos for breach of contract. While I don't think those kids deserve to be beaten like that. They also have to be responsible for their own actions. Those parents sent their kids to SU to be in the band and school and the school did everything they could to protect them. They chose to be hard headed and defy the school and go do what they wanted. I would take my chance with the PC world. Sooner or later folks going to have to stop bending over just to appease the system.
JR
Well-Known Member
Depends on who their lawyers are. LOL. I have seen some ambulance chasing attorneys who would file suit against their grandmother to collect a dollar.
Unless they hired one of the best attorneys in Baton Rouge then I call their bluff and meet them in court. You know their attorney is hoping for an out of court settlement which means easy dollars for him or her.
omegapsiphi5
Jaguar Nation 4 Life
Southern University will be held liable for actions of a few of the university students. It would be in the best interest of the university to settle this thing out of court or take the latter and pay a huge amount of legal fees and still have to pay pain and suffering and the plantiff legal fess too. The frats and sororities have individual chapters but if a hazing incident happens in that one chapter the fraternity or sorority national organization is being sued because they have the money. It is surprising to me the people who did the hazing is not named in the lawsuit too. The court sysytem is a funny thing.
S.U. T-BONE 99
Owner of Humanjukebox.com
Everybody is saying this and that. This stuff might get thrown out of court. No one knows what will happen.
JagHammer
Senior Troll
You believe that??? I was there personally, and that shyt did NOT go down like that.
BigBoi1919
New Member
The dude parents must be having financial hardship to bring this hazing issue back up now. This incident is like 2 years old and the dude marches for NSU now i think.
s phi s
The One Man Band
That is also a very true statement.
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
I understand that... Most folk don't want to go through the time, money and effort to defend theirselves even when they are right... Celebrities do it all the time. I'm just think with Tony Clayton and the system that was put in place just because of what's happening today, SU is prepared to deal with this... Especially since it was done off campus in a whole different city than Baton Rouge and Scottlandville... And like JR say, what they were getting initiated for isn't recognized by the school nor the band... I just find it rather hard to tie this to the school or band....
had it been reported this was being down to join "SU band" I would see it differently even if this event took place in New Orleans...
"NOISE TALKA"
Mr. Hatedandloved
CeeDog is correct. In most of these cases the school just offers the individual some kind of settlement and the problem disappears. I'm pretty sure EVERY school has these "anti hazing forms" not just for band either. All athletes have to sign them at JSU too... That doesn't wipe out the university when this stuff happens though. Southern should just give them woman a $5,000 check, let her son go to school for free and call it a day, or else this crap will keep coming back up. Unfortunately, the human factor is going to play in every and any hazing case... Even though LEGALLY the hazee is just as guilty as the hazer... What judge/jury is going to find that??
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SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
A good lawyer that can lay out the hazee full intensions to go through that process only to put someone else child through what he/she went through... A judge that hear's that case would rule in that favor..... A check for $5,000?
:lol: Might as well give her a quarter...
JR
Well-Known Member
My thing is this. What if those upperclassmen told those Freshmen to go rob a bank or committ some other crime just to be in that section frat. What do yall think the judge/jury would do in that. How much of a civil case would come out of that one?
Somewhere the schools have to draw the line. What will keep coming up is everytime an incident happens like this it will only affect the school's pocket book.
Maybe if those individuals were lawsuited instead and would have to work a portion of their lives to repay whatever the amount of damages they are awarded, then this would stop.
If I was TC, I and I had to pay this off. I am turning around and suing everyone involved for putting SU in this mess....meaning the participants in this case. We would see how much money they can muster up to defend themselves against that one. But that is just me. The schools have to stop being made an example of. This is not just SU but any of our schools. Everytime their is a hazing incident we gone get sued. If that is the case, why have those kids sign any damn thing.
Somewhere the schools have to draw the line. What will keep coming up is everytime an incident happens like this it will only affect the school's pocket book.
Maybe if those individuals were lawsuited instead and would have to work a portion of their lives to repay whatever the amount of damages they are awarded, then this would stop.
If I was TC, I and I had to pay this off. I am turning around and suing everyone involved for putting SU in this mess....meaning the participants in this case. We would see how much money they can muster up to defend themselves against that one. But that is just me. The schools have to stop being made an example of. This is not just SU but any of our schools. Everytime their is a hazing incident we gone get sued. If that is the case, why have those kids sign any damn thing.
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
True...
If the school don't have the kids sign nothing, the school would never be found "criminally" liable for a hazing incident... I thought those papers were being sign for the sole purpose of civil suits...
Like you say, if the papers don't stop them from ever having to pay or settle "civilly".. Why bother with the legal papers?
JR
Well-Known Member
So you mean the school would be held as an accessory to the crime or just the upperclassmen? That's my point. You know that wouldn't happen to the school. In that case a bunch of these schools would be sued for the crimes these athletes committ off campus.
We can't keep rewarding stupidity. These fools gone keep on hazing and folks are going to continue willingly be hazed. Until both sides are punished and no recourse is allowed for the so called victims to be compensated then we will be some broke schools paying out this money. If all I got to say is I got hazed and sue the school and get paid. As long as the school has to suffer it just opens the door for the next set to do the same thing.:shame:
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
I feel you JR, but it's just like you can't just take your gun out and shoot me for stealing your car. I may have stolen 2000 cars, but you can't kill me for it or you will be on trial for murder. Not 1st degree, but 2nd or 3rd. Sad, but true. I am not saying neither party is wrong, because you know what happens in 2000 wasn't the deal back before 1990 when even the folks who wasn't crabbing still got hazed just because and didn't tell. They wasn't even with it, but still realized that being on that field came with a price. Folks didn't get sent to the hospital all the time either though. One of these days someone is going to have to stand up and be a man about it. The thing is which side is going to do it?
Some states have the Castle Law.
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
Does that cover you outside of your home? I never really looked it up, but say if I'm in the parking lot of Wal-mart. Does it cover it?
An intruder must be making (or have made) an attempt to unlawfully and/or forcibly enter an occupied home, business or car.
See this gets tricky to me. I'll just call the cops. It ain't worth it, plus I'm to handsome to be in jail. :lol:
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I don't know about Wal-Mart, but I'm sure self-defense is used if you're being carjacked.
Each state has their own definition of what they want the Castle Law to include.....some have the stand your ground aspect and some give the offender the chance to retreat when it comes to your home.
Mississippi Law:
The castle doctrine allows the use of deadly force against an intruder without first seeking a safe retreat and Mississippi is only one of many states that have passed castle law legislation in the past couple of years.
And don't forget, residents of Mississippi can purchase home security yard signs and automotive window decals so you can alert the public that you are informed, and prepared to defend yourself.
http://www.protectedbythecastlelaw.com/
Babe, you better pick the right state!!
