Who's the NBA MVP?





mighty hornet said:
just how "valuable" is a player on a team, with no other options and is struggling to even make the playoffs?
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Damn.....you're slippin bruh.:smh: I expect more hate than that from you :lmao:
 
Don't need to say more when the truth (and common sense) is so obvious.

I guess by that guys thinking, any ole scrub who has a high scoring average (regardless of his shooting % or his team's standing) qualifies for MVP consideration. :smh:

Reggie Theus send help.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
mighty hornet said:
Don't need to say more when the truth (and common sense) is so obvious.

I guess by that guys thinking, any ole scrub who has a high scoring average (regardless of his shooting % or his team's standing) qualifies for MVP consideration. :smh:

Reggie Theus send help.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:
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You shole is right MH. :swink:


Heck I think LeBron James has had a MVP season. After that I would say and folks will laugh.......but I think Vince Carter has had a great year with leading the Nets back to respectability. Others who would get my vote would be Nash, D. Wade, C.Billups, Dirk N. and Kobe. Kobe has definitely had a monster year and he may be the best player in the league......definitely in the top 3 for sure. But MVP of the league to me is the player who has meant more to his team and the NBA as well. Meaning that not only is he valuable to his own team..........but has had a incredible season that grabbed the attention of the NBA as a whole.
 
STEVVVVIEEE NASSHHH. This boy has lead a starting 5 of journeymen except for Marion. Nash makes players better and he still gets his 16 per game. Kobe did his thing this year and has gotten the lakers back in the playoffs, but Nash is more valuable to his team. LeBron, I like what he did this year. Also, I llike Billups he has lead the pistons ship this year. Man this year's MVP race, has a lot of players that have done there thing, but Nash has shown he can lead with an all-star cast and without one.
 
Nash has an all-star and 3 other players who would start over what the Lakers have (except Odom only by force). Billups has an all-star team...hell they won the All-Star game for the East.

It has to be between LeBron and Kobe. No one else...well maybe Carmelo but he doesn't get as much press.
 
jag4life said:
Nash has an all-star and 3 other players who would start over what the Lakers have (except Odom only by force). Billups has an all-star team...hell they won the All-Star game for the East.

It has to be between LeBron and Kobe. No one else...well maybe Carmelo but he doesn't get as much press.
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THANK YOU !!!!!!1

Melo is an all around player and makes other folks better around him. Lebron might get it cause his team is stank without him and they are up high in the win column. Kobe team is barely making it in the playoffs but he is scoring alot of points.

Nash may get it. Marion is not a super duper player by any stretch. He gets alot of points on nash's assists. His shot is terrible and he dunks alot in transition.
 
mighty hornet said:
just how "valuable" is a player on a team, with no other options and is struggling to even make the playoffs?
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Just as valuable as the player that played for the Bulls before Scottie Pippen came.
 
jag4life said:
Nash has an all-star and 3 other players who would start over what the Lakers have (except Odom only by force). Billups has an all-star team...hell they won the All-Star game for the East.

It has to be between LeBron and Kobe. No one else...well maybe Carmelo but he doesn't get as much press.
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LeBron and Carmelo can't play defense.
 
I'll give credit where credit is due, Kobe has had a great season, no doubt, but not an MVP season. The Lakers are 5-6 games over .500, and about 10 games better than last season, but I would also give Phil Jackson his due as well, after all, most Laker fans said they didn't make the playoffs last year, because they didn't have a coach. Enter Phil Jackson.

I won't knock Kobe, but an MVP would recognize what he has in Lamar Odom, and get him involved the way Jordan did with Pippen, Steve Kerr, Craig Hodges, Bill Paxon, and the rest of them bums he played with. Lamar has triple double capability, but he gets lost, with Kobe's percieved taking over games. I've seen the Lakers go on nice runs this year with Kobe on the bench, and instead being a great facilitator when he re-enters a game, and keeping the game moving between everyone, he starts dominating the ball again.

I like what Nash has done with Phoenix this year, I didn't think he was the MVP last year, but I think he's earned it this year. A few others I would give votes to are, LeBron, Chauncey Billups, Elton Brand, D. Wade, Nowitski, and Tony Parker. Parker has been keeping the Spurs rolling, especially seeing how Duncan, and Genobili have been hurt this year.

In any case, it's going to be a tough vote this year, and probably the toughest since '88, when you could've made a case for Bird, Magic, Jordan, Isiah, and Dominique.

NICE
 
Dude...I guess you haven't seen much Laker basketball this season. Lamar is given every chance to be the Pippen to Kobe's Jordan. He has just done some silly things with the basketball in crunch time. Don't blame that on Kobe...Lamar is a veteran...even Luke Walton wouldn't do some of the silly things Lamar does. He has all the talent in the world but he needs good basketball sense...he will have a triple double but with 30 seconds left in the game and 18 on the shot clock while UP by 2 he will take a dumb shot or drive to the hole and commit a charge.
 
Nash is not VALUABLE! The fact that he left Dallas and Dallas didn't miss a beat without him, means he is not VALUABLE. SHAQ left LA and the Lakers dayum near took a back seat to the Clippers.

This season, the MVP is Dirk N. This player has 1) changed the way the position is played, 2) OPEN UP THE GATES FOR INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS more so than any other international player in NBA League history, 3) Keep Dallas in the hunt for the Division title irrespective to the injuries to his #2 player (Josh Howard). This man has lost Steve Nash and Micheal Finely from his team and STILL has keep Dallas on point.

What other player in the NBA has lost so much of what he depended on for a successful team and still was able to make that team better with new NON-ALLSTAR players?
 



I knew when I saw your name Sperm, that you would be speaking about Dirk. LOL That's your boy... he deserves consideration.

What you said about "international players" has nothing to do with the award, though... plus Dallas is the deepest team in the NBA (like Portland used to be).
 
Da_Sperm said:
What other player in the NBA has lost so much of what he depended on for a successful team and still was able to make that team better with new NON-ALLSTAR players?
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Phoenix.

Nash lost Stoudemire for the season, Q. Richardson to the Knicks, and Joe Johnson to the Hawks, and the player that they got for Q. Richardson, Kurt Thomas wasn't anything special to get happy about, and he's been hurt this season, yet Phoenix keeps rolling.

Non all star replacements, K. Thomas, Boris Diaw, and Raja Bell.

NICE
 
Nice & Jag4Life,
Dallas was a 60 win per season team w/ Nash. They are STILL a 60 win per season team w/out Nash and even Finley. Both Nash and Fin are/were All-Star calibar players. Dirk has manage to keep Dallas a 60 win team basically by himself w/ losing the NBA MVP. How is that possible?

Granted Nash lost Stoudemire, but was he able to keep the SUNS at the competitive level without him or did they lose a beat? They had the best record in the league last year, this year they have the 3rd best in the West and probably 4th or 5th in the NBA. How can he be the MVP? If anything Stoudemire is the MVP.

Josh Howard, Diop, Marquis Daniels, Keith Van Horn, Jerry Stackhouse, etc. Do you think any of these guys will ever be considered an NBA All-Star? Look at who he is working with.
 
Da_Sperm said:
Nice & Jag4Life,

Josh Howard, Diop, Marquis Daniels, Keith Van Horn, Jerry Stackhouse, etc. Do you think any of these guys will ever be considered an NBA All-Star? Look at who he is working with.
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Man Josh Howard and Daniels are beasts. You also replace Nash with Jason Terry...never even missed a beat.

Plus you mentioned Stackhouse... didn't he lead the league in scoring one year?
 
jag4life said:
Man Josh Howard and Daniels are beasts. You also replace Nash with Jason Terry...never even missed a beat.

Plus you mentioned Stackhouse... didn't he lead the league in scoring one year?
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That is my point. How can you be an MVP and be replaced with a person who isn't close to being an All-Star? That means you are not the MOST VALUABLE, which is the 2nd word in MVP.

You are right, in 2000-2001 season, Stack was the 2nd leading scorer (29 ppg) in the NBA and was an All-Star. Needless to say, those were numbers from five years ago.

When I think of MVP, I always consider where will the team be WITHOUT the candidate. Dallas would be hardly nowhere w/o Dirk this season. Since Nash is a point guard (the easiest replaceable position), the Suns could be where they are without him. They proved that last season when he was hurt and they still were winning.
 
Dallas would be 2nd in the SW division and probably still in the 4th seed. I don't think the Clippers would be better even without Dirk there. They wouldn't win 60 games, but they would still be about where they are in the playoffs.
 
jag4life said:
Dallas would be 2nd in the SW division and probably still in the 4th seed. I don't think the Clippers would be better even without Dirk there. They wouldn't win 60 games, but they would still be about where they are in the playoffs.
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Dallas has the 2nd best record in the West and will get the 4th seed (that's just life). They are 8 games above Phoneix and 14 games above Denver, yet they will be seeded lower than both. Would Dallas still win 60 games if Dirk wasn't there?
 
Playing both ends of the court matter. Nash and James sucks on the defensive side. Matter of fact it should be a law against the type of defense they play. They make their team better on the offensive end and they make their team worse on the defensive end. MVP's don't hurt their teams, which it is very clear that Nash and James does on the defensive end.
 
LeBron No Defense and doesn't want the ball in the clutch.
Billups Surrounded by good defenders but good enough to come in third
Elton Brand Good player, but needs to have another good season like this year
D. Wade just as Kobe for many years, he has Shaq
Nowitski good team around him and doesn't show up in crunch time
Tony Parker great season, but I'd say he is a tie for 3rd with Billups
Anthony needs to carry his team another season to show it is consistancy
Steve Nash Once again he is worthy but he has Marion who leads his team in every catagory except assist.
Kobe carried his team and not with just points, but with defense and desire to win.
 
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