Who will be the next Coach at Miss State?


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With the way the west coast offense is coasting, I believe Coach Croom is going to have to upset some great SEC teams real soon to stay on board in Starkville. I hate it too because I like what he brings to the SEC, but you also have to win in collegiate football so I say Ty Willingham
 



College Gameday said:
With the way the west coast offense is coasting, I believe Coach Croom is going to have to upset some great SEC teams real soon to stay on board in Starkville. I hate it too because I like what he brings to the SEC, but you also have to win in collegiate football so I say Ty Willingham
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Hell no!!! Willingham ain't no fool!!!! What sense would that move make. He is in the part of the country that he loves and does well in. He will be with the Huskies for a long time as he continues to be successful. He has already had every college coach's dream job. Why would he go down?
 
G-Man75 said:
Hell no!!! Willingham ain't no fool!!!! What sense would that move make. He is in the part of the country that he loves and does well in. He will be with the Huskies for a long time as he continues to be successful. He has already had every college coach's dream job. Why would he go down?
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Good points.
 
major095 said:
no one wants that job. they were lucky to get croom!!
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I beg to differ. It is an opportunity for some coach. Somebody will turn that program around........ Look at Fraiser at PV. I bet no one really wanted that job either.
 
let me clarify. no one wants that job, but people have to feed their families. croom didn't want that job, but being a black man, locked out of every good coaching job in america he didn't have much choice if he ever wanted to be a IA coach. he does ok there and he'd be compared to spurrier when he was at duke. it'll be a career assistant, a black man (by definition, a career assistant) or a IAA coach. those are the only people with nothing to lose by going to starkville.
 
IF Croom is fired, Mississippi State will probably have to hire a Division I-AA head coach just like Vandy did. Vandy hired its coach from Division I-AA Furman. But I do hear Miami's Larry Coker might be available. :shh: :lmao:
My favorite candidate is South Carolina's defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix, but he's smart and I would doubt if he would come back to Mississippi and take that job. If he came back here, he would replace a retired Jeff Bower at Southern Mississippi and he could stay there a lifetime if he wanted.
 
Come on ya'll. Look at what Croom has to work with and then he's playing in the SEC. They gotta give him at least one more year.
 
College Gameday said:
With the way the west coast offense is coasting, I believe Coach Croom is going to have to upset some great SEC teams real soon to stay on board in Starkville. I hate it too because I like what he brings to the SEC, but you also have to win in collegiate football so I say Ty Willingham
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Dude..........MS State don't have the money to bring Willingham out of Washington. Ole Miss did.......but not State. Even Ty turned them down for an interview. They don't have it like that. Have you seen their facilities compared to other SEC schools? Ask Bigtyme who lives in Starkville. He will tell you. The Ms SEC schools are not on par money wise with Georgia, LSU, Florida or Tenn. not to mention the Bama schools.Those are the type of schools that can go get a Willingham type coach. I say that as a native of the state. Like someone said.....State was lucky to get Croom. Ms State would have to get a 1-AA coach that is hot, an assistant somewhere who wants a HC job for the first time or a Head coach from a mid-major conference that would like to coach in a better and more visible conference. Ms State needs to look for the next Rich Rodriguez of West Va to take that job if Croom is fired.
 
PsychoJag said:
Come on ya'll. Look at what Croom has to work with and then he's playing in the SEC. They gotta give him at least one more year.
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I think he may get two more years. He's got to get some top-notch recruits to help the team also.
 
State had an attendance of 38k last weekend and fans are already prepared to not show for any more games. They are pulling for 25k for the next game and it will probably get down to 15k before the season end. The attendance at the egg bowl is going to be an embarrassment....wait and see.:sleeping:
 
JR said:
Dude..........MS State don't have the money to bring Willingham out of Washington. Ole Miss did.......but not State. Even Ty turned them down for an interview. They don't have it like that. Have you seen their facilities compared to other SEC schools? Ask Bigtyme who lives in Starkville. He will tell you. The Ms SEC schools are not on par money wise with Georgia, LSU, Florida or Tenn. not to mention the Bama schools.Those are the type of schools that can go get a Willingham type coach. I say that as a native of the state. Like someone said.....State was lucky to get Croom. Ms State would have to get a 1-AA coach that is hot, an assistant somewhere who wants a HC job for the first time or a Head coach from a mid-major conference that would like to coach in a better and more visible conference. Ms State needs to look for the next Rich Rodriguez of West Va to take that job if Croom is fired.
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Probaly the head coach at Southern Illinois.
 



MSU can forget getting Willingham unless he gets fired. Washington is one of the premier jobs in college football, and going to MSU is definitely a step down. As JR said, MSU would have to get a hot D1AA head coach, or a good IA coach from a mid-major like the MAC.

Croom had a lot of negatives to deal with going to MSU. Probation, no scholarships, no television appearances, so it's going to take some time, just to get back to the point where they can be competitively average again (if that makes sense). To get the kind of athlete to successfully compete in the SEC, takes money, and scholly's (not sure when they get all of them back), 2 things they don't have at the moment.

Arkansas can't win on a regular basis in the SEC, and they're the only show in their state, and from a recruiting standpoint, MSU has it a whole lot harder than they do, because they have to compete with JSU, Ole Miss, Southern Miss, and Alcorn for players in state, and when you throw in Alabama, Auburn, and LSU who frequently come into the Sip, and take the state's top talent, the MSU job is not an easy one with no money, and scholly's.

NICE
 
Blacknbengal said:
Isnt Miss State STILL on probation or are they just now coming off with the reduced scholarships and the rest?
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Mississippi State's football program was placed on probation by the NCAA for four years, stripped of eight scholarships over the next two seasons and banned from postseason play this season because of recruiting violations.


The Bulldogs are allowed just 81 football scholarships for the 2005 and 2006 seasons, and are limited to 45 expense-paid recruiting visits in each of the 2004-05 and 2005-06 academic years -- 11 per year fewer than the maximum allowed by the NCAA. The school had limited itself to 83 scholarships in the 2005-06 academic year as part of a self-imposed penalty -- down from the NCAA maximum of 85.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1910571
 
Can someone please tell me how in sam he// can 4 scholarships per year effect an entire football program? The last time I checked you can only put 11 on the field at a time, and 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string would be a total of 66 scholarships not including speacial teams, therefor he had 15 additional scholarships to hand out while ON PROBATION. Lets face it, Croom aint s**t for a HC.
 
aiight royal. u name the coach that msu could get that could win at mississippi state without cheating!


I only know of one, well maybe 2.
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
Can someone please tell me how in sam he// can 4 scholarships per year effect an entire football program? The last time I checked you can only put 11 on the field at a time, and 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string would be a total of 66 scholarships not including speacial teams, therefor he had 15 additional scholarships to hand out while ON PROBATION. Lets face it, Croom aint s**t for a HC.
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Dude, I'm just saying..........the opportunity to have "post season" play can affect a child's decision also. If the child want to play for a chance to attend and win a bowl game, he may choose another SEC team before attending Miss State. Let's look at the bigger picture instead of one piece of the puzzle.
 
major095 said:
aiight royal. u name the coach that msu could get that could win at mississippi state without cheating!


I only know of one, well maybe 2.
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Pat Hill at Fresno or Tommy Bowden at Clemson, and yes it can be done if they present the right package.
 
Blacknbengal said:
Dude, I'm just saying..........the opportunity to have "post season" play can affect a child's decision also. If the child want to play for a chance to attend and win a bowl game, he may choose another SEC team before attending Miss State. Let's look at the bigger picture instead of one piece of the puzzle.
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You are right. And there is an even bigger picture. What some fail to understand is that Croom HAD to clean house at Mississippi State and start completely over. That team had no discipline before his arrival. And Mississippi State has no history of winning. Here are the facts.... Mississippi State's records against SEC teams and USM from college football warehouse. They have losing records against everyone except Vandy. And they have given coaches facing less more time to turn things around. Before Sherrill, Rockey Felker had five years and the best he did was 6-5. In the 70s, Bob Tyler went 2-9, 0-11, and 0-11, and finally 6-5 before they let him go. And none of them faced probation and followed a coach who had personal problems and allowed the team to run itself for three years.

MSU's Records--It is sad<

Alabama 16-71-3
Auburn 22-55-2
Florida 18-32-2
Georgia 5-15
Kentucky 14-19 :shame:
Ole Miss 38-58-6 :shame:
Tennessee 15-26-1
Southern Miss 12-14-1 :shame:
Vanderbilt 10-7-2
 
One of their message boards has mentioned Terry Bowden, if they could lure him away from the TV booth...

But I have my doubts as to whether MSU could attract a 'top notch' coach. Starkville's no place anybody really wants to go, and with MSU buried so deep in the SEC cellar, it'd take somebody with unreal appeal to turn things around...

Besides, I think Terry's waiting on his daddy to name him his successor at Florida State...
 
Man I live in StarkVegas this place is a hole. Coach Croom has done wonders considering the circumstances, when he first got here Miss St players could not even go into the resturants and bars in town they were banned because of past incidents. With that being said State cannot compete with the LSU Auburns, floridas when it comes to recruiting hell there having a hard time keeping up with Ole Miss. Coach is fighting a losing battle he does not have great facilities, he's not in a great city or even near a big recruiting area, hell to get to Birmingham you have to go thru Tuscaloosa.
 
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