Who is Richard Crosby??????


thegooddoctor

thegooddoctor

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Can anyone supply some background info on the Alabama State AD?

Where did this guy come from and what was his past experience as an AD?

This guy has wrecked the entire Alabama State athletic program.

If heads are to roll his should be first.

It is obvious that this whole mess was to remove L.C. Cole as head football coach. Why, who knows, probably an internal political, or personal matter. Bottom line the entire University will have to suffer.

The problem was he didn't know how to do it without destroying the entire program.

This is a helluva way to begin the football season.
 



Here's the way I see it:

Crosby(whoever he is) didn't have this kind of mess at his old job.

Cole(we know who he is), got in trouble for this same stuff at TSU.

It seems to me that you guys are hating the wrong person.
 
help me understand something....
Why is Cosby the problem?
Why do we look at things like this?
Cosby is trying to SOLVE a problem at ASU.
Do you guys realize the mess Cosby backed into when he got there? You have coaches knowingly playing ineligible players. A compliance office that couldnt tell you if Ricky Jones has any eligibility left. The football coach is making his own schedule choosing every sisters of the poor school he can find. Coaches and players running ramped.

What do you want this guy to do? He took his time, he did an investigation (althouhg flawed) and he is trying to get the program on the right foot.

Why do we always look at the good guys as the bad person in an equation? Is this a racial thing? The guy has only been there 7 months. He is trying to clean up a trash program. Excuse him if he gets a lil dirt on him.
 
Confused.....

I still don't see how people want to fire or be mad at the AD. :confused: How is this man doing something wrong when he has possibly uncovered:

Playing of ineligible players in football, basketball and softball,
descrepancies in recruiting, and other violations.

How is he killing the program??? How is this a witchhunt against L.C.?? Just because the man says he didn't know. C'mon folks. If there wasn't anything there, there wouldn't be anything to report. Bottom line is there was/is some foul stuff going on at ASU and this man choose to do his job and uncover it. Now if there was a personal vendeatta/motivation there, I don't know. But out of all the stuff I read more than L. C. was involved and I hope more than L. C. is punished/blamed. This was a mess of the entire ASU Athletic Dept., so will you folks please stop trying to crucify Cosby for doing his job and cleaning this stuff up. Makes me wonder what is going on at the rest of the schools too. :smh:
 
kool-aid,
There's a way to conduct an internal investigation without sinking to the level that cosby has. Not to mention the way he deals with the media.
 
Originally posted by Get Ready
You have coaches knowingly playing ineligible players. A compliance office that couldnt tell you if Ricky Jones has any eligibility left. The football coach is making his own schedule choosing every sisters of the poor school he can find.
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:smh:

Who told you that Cole made his own schedule and how do you know what the coaches "knowingly" did"



Why do we always look at the good guys as the bad person in an equation?
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If you only knew only half of the truth, you wouldn't be labeling that so-called athletic director as the "good guy". Heck, to be honest, based on his quotes alone, no objective person would label him the "good guy".
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
kool-aid,
There's a way to conduct an internal investigation without sinking to the level that cosby has. Not to mention the way he deals with the media.
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True, he could've handled things better. But an investigation of this type is going to be messy and public to some extent. You can't avoid that.

The bottom line though, is you guys on here have been 100% behind Coles since he was hired. While that's not a bad thing at first, at some point you have to face reality. These are the same types of things that got him in trouble at TSU. Was that the AD's fault too? If you're really honest, you'll see that ASU will be better off with another coach. Don't you have an alum who's an assistant at Auburn? If so, you might wanna take a look at him(just a suggestion).
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
Heck, to be honest, based on his quotes alone, no objective person would label him the "good guy".
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Based on his quotes, I think he's a man that means business. He's in charge and that is what he is setting out to do. Take back the charge that was lost to coaches and players. It all started when your Head Basketball Coach was made interim AD. Well, maybe before that, but I think that is when everything escaladed to new heights.
 
In my opinion, whatever penalties are access to the football program and coach(es) should be assessed to the basketball program and softball programs and coaches, as well.

I think this is where people are having some difficulty with the conduct and ability of the athletic director Cosby, especially with the way he has handled the investigation and his comments to the media outlets in regards to the investigation. Anyone must admit that this investigation was not handled in the best manor by anyone involved. That has to be frustrating to fans, students, alums and the administration.

In my opinion, it would be easier to comprehend if most people thought this problem was placed on admininistration in regards to the previous athletic director or interim athletic director and/or, especially the compliance officer. Because it easy to view that this is not a problem with one athletic program, but with several athletic programs.
 
Originally posted by JSU/99
True, he could've handled things better.
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IMO, that's a gross understatement.



Was that the AD's fault too?
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I'm faulting cosby for the manner in which this whole thing has played out. Not the fact that it did play out. As athletic director, he did a piss po job of conducting this "investigation", from the very beginning all the way til that report and his comments about that report. but then again, there's a whole lot of stuff at work here that supersedes what's being reported in the paper.
 
mh

What about all the stupid ass comments that Coles said.
Must I go down the line of all the silly things he said? You never uttered one word about Coles silly ass comments.

Cant you see where your program was going with Coles?
Answer this honestly.....do you think for one minute that Coles didnt know that Cochran was ineligible? Do you really think that.

Cochran said he didnt remember playing 3 years ago....yeah right. I remember every Pop Warner game I played in when I was tearing up the league in Vicksburg. So do you really think he didnt know and he didnt tell Coles.

Come on man...tell me you arent that gullible?
 
Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
I think this is where people are having some difficulty with the conduct and ability of the athletic director Cosby, especially with the way he has handled the investigation and his comments to the media outlets in regards to the investigation. Anyone must admit that this investigation was not handled in the best manor by anyone involved. That has to be frustrating to fans, students, alums and the administration.
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:tup:
 
Originally posted by Get Ready
he did an investigation (although flawed)
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Could this possibly be the explanation as to why these people see Cosby as the problem? I've been reading about this entire fiasco since it started and never said anything about it, but since when has a flawed investigation been considered acceptable? Cosby has been totally unprofessionable in his handling of this thing in the media and in how he has dealt with the student-athletes that have been pulled into this mess.

From the looks of things I have to agree with MH. Since he can't seem to do his job of running a decent investigation, it seems like this guy was just an awful hire.
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
I'm faulting cosby for the manner in which this whole thing has played out. Not the fact that it did play out. As athletic director, he did a piss po job of conducting this "investigation", from the very beginning all the way til that report and his comments about that report. but then again, there's a whole lot of stuff at work here that supersedes what's being reported in the paper.
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Now MH, let me ask you two serious questions.

1. Can you see how we musta felt with the "Bell hiring" ordeal? Not that we had anything against Bell, but just the process.

2. Do you think that this investigation was needed, but just not the way it happened?
 



GR,
One thing about mh is I try not to involve myself with assuming what people may think or know. That serves no purpose. I like to deal in what folks SAY!!!!!!
That's where I have a problem with cosby. Remember, I just stated that his quotes, his words--- Not stuff that I think he ought to know, stuff that I'm assuming to be true. But his words!!!!!!

Stuff like that is very objective. When you start dealing with what you may think folks mean, then other things come into play, and all objectivity goes out the window.
 
Originally posted by Blacknbengal
Do you think that this investigation was needed, but just not the way it happened?
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As reported, an investigation was warranted. The handling of that investigation though was terrible!
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
As reported, an investigation was warranted. The handling of that investigation though was terrible!
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So by this answer, you're saying that YOU agree that an investigation was warranted. Because I too believe that this investigation stunk to high heaven with the way it was conducted.
 
I hear what all ya'll saying but......

Yep the punishments should be the same for all coaches. What we had hear was a clear case of the "inmates running the assylum". Man these coaches knew what was going on, they were just trying to get by. You can talk about Cosby's unprofessionalism, etc. but the truth is coming to light and we're missing everybody else's unprofessionalism. These kids were done wrong, but not necessarily by Cosby, well not at first, he just had the last sayso (so far) in it. Could he have done some things differently, of course. But I be dammed, if ya'll ain't trying to massacre the messenger, instead of being pissed at the ones who made the messages.

Crosby ain't the problem here.....maybe a part of it, but not the full deal.
 
Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
In my opinion, whatever penalties are access to the football program and coach(es) should be assessed to the basketball program and softball programs and coaches, as well.

I think this is where people are having some difficulty with the conduct and ability of the athletic director Cosby, especially with the way he has handled the investigation and his comments to the media outlets in regards to the investigation. Anyone must admit that this investigation was not handled in the best manor by anyone involved. That has to be frustrating to fans, students, alums and the administration.

In my opinion, it would be easier to comprehend if most people thought this problem was placed on admininistration in regards to the previous athletic director or interim athletic director and/or, especially the compliance officer. Because it easy to view that this is not a problem with one athletic program, but with several athletic programs.
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This is the most logical post that's been made on this fiasco. I must add that the compliance officer head should roll also
 
And he is already getting the job done...decent scheduling....taking out the trash.

You guys dont realize that Cosby is mostly a pond in all of this.
 
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