White Gentrification of Core Black Neighborhoods


J C

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Is this good or bad? Will it happen in southern cities?

In Parts of U.S. Northwest, a Changing Face
Economics Drive White Gentrification of Core Black Neighborhoods of Seattle and Portland
By Blaine Harden
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 19, 2006; A03
PORTLAND, Ore. -- Already the whitest major city in America, Portland is rapidly becoming even whiter at its core.
"The heart of the black community is gone," said Charles Ford, 76, a black activist whose neighborhood in Portland has flipped in recent years from majority black to majority white. "There ain't no center anymore."
About 150 miles north in Seattle, the nation's second-whitest major city, the same process of downtown demographic bleaching is accelerating for the same reasons.
An invasion of young, well-educated and mostly white newcomers is buying up and remaking Seattle's Central District, the birthplace of Jimi Hendrix and the once-bluesy home of the young Ray Charles. What had been the largest black-majority community in the Pacific Northwest has become majority white.
"I am concerned and I am frustrated because I don't know what the alternatives are," said Norman Rice, who in the 1990s was Seattle's first and only black mayor. "It clearly isn't racist; it's economics. The real question you have to ask yourself is: Is this good or bad?"
White gentrification is hardly unique to Portland and Seattle. It is changing Harlem, the District of Columbia and many other cities. Demographers say it is especially noticeable in major California cities -- a function of population density, the desire to escape long commutes and the relative housing bargains in black neighborhoods.
But as white gentrification accelerates in Portland and Seattle, where the percentage of black residents was already the lowest among the nation's largest cities, it is erasing the only historically black neighborhoods these cities have ever had.
In many cities with large black populations, gentrification has caused only marginal racial change. In the District, for example, the percentage of white non-Hispanic residents increased 2.7 percent between 1990 and 2004, according to William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution.
Still, Washington remains less than one-third white and about 60 percent black.
In Seattle's Central District, though, racial change is anything but marginal. The non-Hispanic white population in the area jumped from 31 percent in 1990 to 50 percent in 2000, according to the census.
Local demographers say white growth since 2000 has gained momentum, while the percentage of black residents appears to have fallen to less than 40 percent. With real estate prices rollicking upward at about 25 percent a year, the Central District appears to be getting whiter and richer by the month.
As black residents leave the central areas of Portland and Seattle for the suburbs -- either because they have sold their homes or been forced out by higher rents -- their community is being splintered by geographic dispersal and racial integration.
"It's destroying us, socially and politically," said Ford, the neighborhood activist from Portland. "It is just a total inconvenience and disrespect to black folks."
Rice does not view the changes as nearly so dire, especially for people who have been able to sell their homes at a substantial profit and set aside money for retirement.
Census figures suggest that blacks in Seattle and Portland have not been displaced into homelessness and that they are not economically worse off in the suburbs than they were downtown. In many cases, housing in the suburbs is newer, schools are better and crime is lower.
But Rice said that newly suburbanized African Americans in Seattle and Portland are being isolated from one another and "will have to find new places to embrace our black heritage."
With attendance falling, some black churches in Seattle and Portland have moved or are opening second sanctuaries in the suburbs.
"I have begged our people not to sell their properties but to no avail," said the Rev. Reggie Witherspoon, pastor of Mount Calvary Christian Center, a church in the Central District that is trying to open a second location in Seattle's southern suburbs, where many parishioners have moved. "A good majority of them have decided they cannot afford to drive into the city, so they have joined suburban white churches."
Neither blacks nor whites, Rice said, appear to have found a way to stop or slow the disappearance of core black neighborhoods. "They are concerned, but they don't have an option or a plan," he said.
The pressures of growth, worsening traffic congestion and the rising price of gasoline seem certain to make the hunt for close-in, upscale housing even more obsessive in the next two decades.
"The location of the Central District is so superior to the suburbs -- it has great views, it's close to downtown and to the University of Washington -- that there's a tremendous incentive to buy, especially for people with no kids or the money to send them to private schools," said Richard Morrill, a demographer and professor emeritus at the University of Washington.
Rest of article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800605.html
 
ummm.... heyal yeah it's bad, not so much from the displacement standpoint as it is for communities in general.


The sad thing is that the folks most affected by gentrification still don't have too much to show for it when it hits their little part of the city...The same problems that were there just up and transplant to the suburbs, or wherever...

DC is going through it on a grandiose scale; That process is having a direct impact on the District, as well as the growing populations in nearby PG county and southern MD.
 



I think its a good thing. Those who stay will benefit by having better services, schools and higher property values. Those who leave will make a profit on the homes they sell and have a nice life in their new neighborhoods. Its a win win situation.
 
crazylegs said:
ummm.... heyal yeah it's bad, not so much from the displacement standpoint as it is for communities in general.


The sad thing is that the folks most affected by gentrification still don't have too much to show for it when it hits their little part of the city...The same problems that were there just up and transplant to the suburbs, or wherever...

DC is going through it on a grandiose scale; That process is having a direct impact on the District, as well as the growing populations in nearby PG county and southern MD.

Crazylegs, I live in PG County MD and a lot of people that are moving out of D.C are moving to different areas in Maryland. The prices of housing in Maryland is ridiculous. This is already affecting PG County because a lot of crime is happening. I'm not trying to blame it on D.C people, but that's where the majority of criminal activity is coming from.
 
Let me chime in and give a few perspectives from an investment statepoint, then a racial, and finally an age standpoint.

The Investment Side
I purchased a condo in NE DC when I first returned to DC. It is a one bedroom and 700 square feet; price in the upper 200s. Many call it stupid, but they have no idea of what it is worth now, and I'm smiling all the way to the bank because I rent it out.

I used it as collateral to purchase another that's in the middle 300s.

My sister and I live together in her condo to make that money.

This is the way of America with the young people with good jobs. I believe in this.

The Racial Side
Much of this is happening in majority black neighborhoods. The reason is simple, are we taking care of those neighborhoods? Some are being taken care of and others are not. The best way to rid crime out of these places is to attract young homeowners, usually those on their first home. Homeowrnership means power, this is why the process for purchasing a home is so hard.

Now many of the unwanted people tend to move to other black areas and set up shop. Why because the homeowners have said to the city, man these people need to leave. It's hard but fair. I have seen bothe neighborhoods where my investment property is located change in a matter of weeks.

Blacks are not on the top of the economic step so we tend to be the ones getting stepped on. As an INVESTMENT property owner, I disagree fully with keeping the home prices low to maintain the racial boundaries of the neighbordhood.

The Age Side
This process is not hurting the young, it's hurting the old. These retired people like my mother are living the American Dream which is: Get a job, retire in good standing, pay off your home, and be happy. Well, what happens is most of them cannot afford the PROPERTY TAX. For instance if they purchased their home for $25K back in 1965; it's now worth well over $200K and in some areas $300K. Guess what, even though it's paid off, you pay property taxes on what it is worth now. That is a headache for people on a set income.

Because these elderly people cannot afford their taxes, a investor comes in and does a search of people who haven't paid their taxes. The investor pays the taxes and waits a year. Then kicks the folks out. They are kicked out of their home because someone was able to pay what they counldn't...and their house is paid off. It's sad.

Yet there are options but people don't take them because why should you cash in on your home after you paid it off?

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Right now I am in the middle of the road because I am an investor, but I have a mother who is retired and she complains about her property tax and I simple pay it for her so this mess would not happen. But it's Grambling which is a big difference from DC, Seattle, and Portland.

I would advise any of you who have parents living in these areas, fix up your folks home, pay the taxes, and don't let investors screw you out of what your mom and dad worked years for.
 
"don't let them screw you"

I agree and at the same time I can't help but ask, why not push them to pay you a lot and then move away and buy another place?
 
J4J said:
why not push them to pay you a lot and then move away and buy another place?

J4J it's a game...and investor wants to pay the lowest amount for the property. Also, in this area where would they move? It's hard to get the older people to adapt to change. Also, many of those people have been living there for years.

I look at my mother, her home in Grambling is paid for. I would love for her to move here to one of the locations where only people 65 and older can buy homes. Yet, she would die in a year because she needs her friends. So I remain silent and give her what she wants.

I hate this is happening to older people...I hate it.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
J4J it's a game...and investor wants to pay the lowest amount for the property. Also, in this area where would they move? It's hard to get the older people to adapt to change. Also, many of those people have been living there for years.

I look at my mother, her home in Grambling is paid for. I would love for her to move here to one of the locations where only people 65 and older can buy homes. Yet, she would die in a year because she needs her friends. So I remain silent and give her what she wants.

I hate this is happening to older people...I hate it.

In those cases,....I understand.
 
J C said:
Will it happen in southern cities?

Ever heard of a place called Atlanta. :lol: How they gone change Bankhead to Donald Lee Howell. Who the heck is that. We still gone represent for the Head. Party don't stop. :lol:
 
CEE DOG said:
Ever heard of a place called Atlanta. :lol: How they gone change Bankhead to Donald Lee Howell. Who the heck is that. We still gone represent for the Head. Party don't stop. :lol:
Dude, they changed Stewart Ave to Metropolitan..........What was that all about?
 
I see it everyday. I live in an area that used to be really bad. It still isn't the greatest but i know in a few years it will look completely different. They have these signs up calling the neighborhood a "weed and seed community". I live in an apartment...that used to be an old school. I've been there for a year and they have built at least 20 new homes in the area. Those "we buy ugly houses" signs are everywhere. They tear down the ugly ones and build 2 new ones in their place. I like the area. I'm close to downtown, the airport, Turner Field, and right off the interstate. If I had the money I would definitely invest in this area.
 
J C said:
Is this good or bad? Will it happen in southern cities?
J C,
It's already happened in Atl

Whites have been moving back into the city in large numbers. Buying up property in (what used to be) "the hood". Areas of town that used to be "bad", now have houses (and other development) that are over 300K. It's not all good either, because a lot of smooth, fast talking investors came, flashed a few $$ to the folks who were living in those areas and proceeded to fleece them out of their houses and property, for next to nothing. Then these same investors, turn around and sell it for wayyyyy more than what they got it for. And for the ones who didn't sell, once the area "gentrifies", they're left with property taxes that are hard to pay. Combine that too with the end of traditional public housing, (no more projects) and it's a new day.

btw, there's also a great effect on the surrounding suburbs too, because a lot of the displaced people move from the inner city into the suburbs.
 
CEE DOG said:
How they gone change Bankhead to Donald Lee Howell. Who the heck is that.
:lol:
I think he was a lawyer or something, but heck everybody still calls it Bankhead. The same with Ashby and J.E. Lowery

Helll, I still call the marta station Hightower and not Holmes.
:lol:
 
Shamocha said:
I see it everyday. I live in an area that used to be really bad. It still isn't the greatest but i know in a few years it will look completely different. They have these signs up calling the neighborhood a "weed and seed community". I live in an apartment...that used to be an old school. I've been there for a year and they have built at least 20 new homes in the area. Those "we buy ugly houses" signs are everywhere. They tear down the ugly ones and build 2 new ones in their place. I like the area. I'm close to downtown, the airport, Turner Field, and right off the interstate. If I had the money I would definitely invest in this area.
You're in Mechanicville?
 



I have a question, I see most of the comments are about whites moving back in. Well don't we work? Why don't some of you move back in?

Just curious.
 
Blacknbengal said:
You're in Mechanicville?
Actually just around the corner. I'm in Pittsburgh. Friends thought I was crazy for moving from Stone Mountain to this area, but I honestly haven't had any issues at all.
 
Why don't we battle it instead of talking about it. I've extended my credit to the max, but I keep trying to get people to invest but this is the response I get:

"Man I can move out to PG Country and get a house $30K cheaper."

Dude you drive 40 miles a day...that's gas money...furthermore who's going to live in a house for 30 years anyway?
 
It's happening EVERYWHERE now and will continue. A time will come when everything inside your city's 'loop' will be lilly white.
 
HBCUs said:
It's happening EVERYWHERE now and will continue. A time will come when everything inside your city's 'loop' will be lilly white.

I have to understand why we don't push the urban black professionals to move in to these areas or purchase property in these areas.
 
The stories I have about Pittsburgh. Man I once knew every one in that area. They been calling me Cee Dog for a long time. :lol:
Shamocha said:
Actually just around the corner. I'm in Pittsburgh. Friends thought I was crazy for moving from Stone Mountain to this area, but I honestly haven't had any issues at all.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
"Man I can move out to PG Country and get a house $30K cheaper."

Dude you drive 40 miles a day...that's gas money...furthermore who's going to live in a house for 30 years anyway?

Right on target. Just imagine the kind of money people are "saving" on houses 15 and 20 miles away from their jobs, all while paying $3.00 for a gallon of gas. Houses that certainly won't be their last, mind you. :xeye:
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
I have to understand why we don't push the urban black professionals to move in to these areas or purchase property in these areas.
They won't. They are following the whites to the burbs. Now they will begin to follow back to the city.
Forgive me but most black communities (no a lot) need to be busted up. They bred crime.
 
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