What's going on Grambling?


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What's going on with Grambling?

Grambling's accreditation in jeopardy? (Round Table Discussion)

Any info?

This is all I got from the News-Star Online... then I dead link!

Grambling State University

GSU given extra week to work records
State Legislative Auditor Dan Kyle will pull his team in from Grambling State University for a training session in Baton Rouge next week, which means GSU will have another week to provide him with records needed to complete the audit for 2001-02.

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It was an article in the <i>Huntsville Times</i> about GSU and there accreditation woes! I hope they can get things worked out down there because losing accreditation would be terrible from what I was reading in the article........
 



Grambling to be shutdown?

Grambling to be shutdown?
07/25/2002 07:24 AM EDT


By Brett Martel
Associated Press

GRAMBLING, La. (AP) - Black and gold banners proclaiming ``100 Years of Excellence'' remain on lamp posts throughout the Grambling State University campus a year after the historically black school's centennial.

Such symbols of longevity seem to be needed reassurance at a time when the institution is struggling to overcome an episode of accounting incompetence so drawn out it now threatens to close the school.

``Sometimes I wake up at night, shaking, wondering, what if?'' says Helen Richards-Smith, dean of the university's honors college and a Grambling faculty member for most years since she graduated from here in 1944.

The campus of red bricks and white columns amid the piney hills of north Louisiana, founded by an association of black farmers in 1901, has been unable to provide financial statements deemed acceptable for a state audit since 1997. Such an audit is generally required in three consecutive years for reaccreditation, a process that occurs every 10 years and is now about two years past due at Grambling.

The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, an Atlanta-based national accrediting group, has placed Grambling on probation and has set a Sept. 16 deadline for an approved audit for the past two academic years.

If Grambling loses its accreditation, it will also lose federal funding including financial aid for its students - 90 percent of whom now receive this aid. If unaccredited, Grambling's degrees would lose value with graduate school admissions offices and professional licensing boards.

``We'd be out of business,'' says David Wright, a Grambling graduate who sits on the Louisiana university system's board of supervisors, which oversees the school. ``All over the country it would be a terrific blow because we have a lot alumni and friends of Grambling.''

Grambling is to black America as Notre Dame is to Roman Catholic America in the fierce loyalty it inspires among alumni and countless boosters, including many who've never set foot on campus.

In football, Grambling became synonymous with success under now-retired coaching icon Eddie Robinson.

The Grambling marching band's high-energy performances having included Super Bowl halftime shows and inaugurations of African presidents.

Grambling graduates hold management jobs at companies like Ford, Gannett, Cisco and Apple.

These accomplishments come despite the fact that many students are the first in their families to go to college and that many incoming students need remedial help. There is no minimum admission standard except a high school diploma.

The school's motto is: ``The place where everybody is somebody.''

The accounting mess - the latest in a series of financial problems including thefts and improper spending - has made it a place where everybody is anxious.

``None of my friends have left, but we were all talking about it,'' says Tamika Noble, 21, a senior studying sociology.

Still, she's certain the school has much support. ``They're not going to let Grambling close down.''

Reshawn Thomas, 20, a senior marketing major and Student Government Association treasurer who comes from a long line of Grambling graduates, says the looming accreditation question is ``everybody's top concern.''

State Legislative Auditor Dan Kyle has doubled the auditing staff he originally dispatched to help the school meet the deadline.

``They have an enormous task. Whether they can do it I cannot predict,'' Kyle says.

Describing the bad bookkeeping, Kyle says, ``It's like saying for accounts receivable, 'several different people owe me $10,000 combined, but I don't know who they are or how much each one owes.'''

Grambling officials acknowledge the accounting staff in recent years was undertrained. But the root of the problem, many say, was instability at the top. After having only three presidents in its first 90 years, Grambling is now on its sixth president since 1991. It has had seven vice presidents of finance since 1993.

Grambling has been ``fought over like a fiefdom by politically connected blacks,'' said Rick Gallot, a black state representative and a Grambling graduate.

His mother, Mildred Gallot, also a Grambling graduate and longtime history professor, adds that recent presidents ``seemed to have the attitude: 'I need my people in place _ people loyal to me.'''

One example was Steve Favors, a former Howard University administrator appointed Grambling's president in 1998.

Melvin Davis, Grambling's chief financial officer when the school received its last approved audit in 1997, said he felt alienated by Favors and took a better-paying job in 1999. Davis says he offered to help Grambling close its books for 1998 and 1999 anyway, so the school would be ready for its regularly scheduled re-accreditation in 2000. He was rebuffed.

Favors hired a new CFO, but he backed out before his first day of work and instead took a job in Florida.

A Grambling spokeswoman said requests for interviews with Favors, who remains on the faculty, had to go through her. The request was made and Favors did not respond.

After Favors was forced out in January 2001, the board appointed as acting president Neari Warner, a Grambling insider who was accomplished in academic affairs but lacked experience with certain administrative and financial matters.

``It made me wonder if they were setting her up for failure,'' Rep. Gallot said.

System president Sally Clausen said Warner accepted the job on an interim basis and so far has shown determination to take tough measures, including the firing of 126 employees, mostly administrative.

``The end result is that the legislative auditor now believes the right people are in place,'' Clausen said.

Last summer, Warner brought in Billy Owens, a former top financial officer with Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, as Grambling's new CFO, its first since Davis in 1999.

As to meeting the deadline, Owens said, ``What appeared to many one year ago as an impossibility now looks like a very real possibility.''

Warner also remains positive.

``I see these difficult situations as launching pads to higher standards of accountability and productivity,'' Warner said in a written response to questions from The Associated Press.

Grambling does not appear to have cash flow problems, say officials with the Louisiana Board of Regents, which oversees all state universities. Grambling receives about 20 percent more in state funding per student than the average for Louisiana's four-year campuses, in part because of a civil rights settlement that required the state to compensate for years of spending more on predominantly white than historically black colleges.

But the current crisis is only the latest in a series of financial embarrassments since 1993, when Kyle refused to express an opinion on the accuracy of Grambling's financial statements.

Kyle again deemed Grambling's financial statements unacceptable in 1994 and a year later came the accreditation group's warning.

A 1996 legislative audit reported a variety of irregularities, including:

$343,000 in uncollected debts;
thefts of computers and air conditioners worth $51,000;
$10,500 in scholarships given to unqualified high school graduates.
Trustees soon forced university president Raymond Hicks to resign. He left the school with a $3 million deficit, which officials said was caused largely by overestimating enrollment.

Enrollment dropped sharply - from 7,833 in fall 1993 to about 4,500 now - but officials say factors other than financial woes were the main cause. Most important, they say, were an effort to set higher admission standards, which has since been dropped, and higher tuition for out-of-state students, which has been retained. Also, U.S. Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., was paid $50,000 by Grambling to teach a class for Grambling credit in New Orleans which enrolled one student.

Then there was the transfer of public money - about $1.6 million - to the Grambling Foundation, the university's now-bankrupt private fund-raising arm.

Favors, the former Grambling president, has said the university trusted that the money it transferred to the foundation would be spent to benefit the school but had no control over it. Favors blamed problems on a foundation administrator from 1997 to 1999.

Kyle, the state audit chief, found that money meant for scholarships was instead spent on administrative costs and on the startup and operation of a short-lived sports bar. More than $1 million the foundation received from the annual Bayou Classic football game went to expenses, such as hotel rooms, receptions and limousine services.

Grambling's proceeds from the game were transferred to the foundation, which Kyle concluded failed to keep credible financial records and displayed ``a lack of integrity.'' No charges have been filed.

``Everybody wants to see Grambling become more accountable,'' says Herbert Simmons, director of alumni development. He termed the latest financial crisis ``a wakeup call.''

Simmons' bond to Grambling is strong. Raised by a grandmother who couldn't read or write, Simmons came to the school on a band scholarship and went on to become a lawyer.

The loss of Grambling ``would be unthinkable to me,'' he says. ``For 100 years we've been taking nobodys and turning them into somebodys ... Where would we be as a nation without Grambling?''
 
I didn't know the situation at Grambling was this bad! This is the first time that I have read where they are talking about shutting the school down. This would be a huge loss!

I am really hoping that Grambling can work this out.
 
Old news

These problems are not new and they're just hitting the mainstream. Resolutions are being made now to clean up the mess past administrators have made. These problems are no different from other universities(ofay) problems. Northeast University(University of Monroe or whatever they're called now) was going through it right along with us. But they only focus on the black universities when negative stuff is concerned.
 
Slick Partna,

This topic was also discussed on the Tom Joiner Morning Show. It is indeed a serious matter and not to be taken lightly. Grambling has no choice but to straighten this mess out. Grambling is the flavor of the moment for now, but all HBCU's are in this together. In the end Grambling will overcome come out a stronger University.
 
The sad thing is that our national academic reputation was growing as a result of high rankings in graduates from our business program, criminal justice, biology/nursing, computer science/information system. The academic product is not in question! Unfortunately, ineffective controls and adherence to generally accepted accounting principals (either on purpose or due to lack of knowledge) has us at this current dilemna.

Corrective steps are being taken, however due to the magnitude
of the problem it might not be done in time for the Accrediation Board's deadline. I fully expect that the Board of Regents and the Legislative Auditor to join with our current administators to extend the deadline for the audit. The State of Louisiana cannot afford (financially nor from a public relations standpoint) to allow the closing of a functioning and effective institution of higher learning.

Although the publicity from this is damaging and hurts (personal), I am encouraged that our new Comptroller is not going for a "quick-fix" of records and guidelines. Reconstructing an audit trail is a tedious task and detailed documentation must be given confirming how amounts were determined or arrived at. There must even be guidelines followed to "write-off" items that cannot be verified.
 
Very Disturbing Situation.

This is not good. I trust this will be handled en haste. There will need to be some hellava leadership to guide GSU through this test.
 
Grambling Accreditation

I was just watching BET nightly news and they were talking about Grambling also. They must have been showing a video of students from the 80's or something. The students were wearing tight jeans and had jerrycurles. I know dang well that wasn't a recent video. Hell, I just graduated in 98 from Grambling and I know we weren't dressing like that. Grambling will survive. This is just another obsticle that we will have to overcome in order to prove that we are a topnotch University.
 



Re: Grambling Accreditation

Originally posted by buckwheat
They must have been showing a video of students from the 80's or something. The students were wearing tight jeans and had jerrycurles. I know dang well that wasn't a recent video. Hell, I just graduated in 98 from Grambling and I know we weren't dressing like that.
:oops:Not the smackboard.

Well on a serious note, I hope y'all Grambling-ites know what you are talking about and aren't just saying this like you've been saying in the past.
 
Re: Re: Grambling Accreditation

Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
:oops:Not the smackboard.

Well on a serious note, I hope y'all Grambling-ites know what you are talking about and aren't just saying this like you've been saying in the past.

What have we been saying in the past?
 
Re: Re: Grambling Accreditation

Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
Well on a serious note, I hope y'all Grambling-ites know what you are talking about and aren't just saying this like you've been saying in the past.

:confused:
 
Grammerkins:

While we love to smack the hell out of you, this is a serious matter. It is my prayer that your current administration will handle your business and keep things growing. We're all in this together, and losing Grambling would be like losing a leg....after all, each of our schools makes up the HBCU Body!

Hold your head up and please stay alive!
 
Re: Re: Re: Grambling Accreditation

Originally posted by SAME OLD G


What have we been saying in the past?
Whenever something like this topic is brought up y'all say something to the fact that it is nothing serious, or it's a big mix up that will be cleared up. Surely if it was just that than it wouldn't have gone this far. I knew something had to be going on like Grambling having money problems, because of them playing mainly in Classics every year, and not to mention the band wanting the other school to pay $20,000 for the band to travel to the game. And the excuse we would hear wouldn't add up. This is what I've been hearing from y'all.
 
Originally posted by Ms. Jag4Jag
Grammerkins:

While we love to smack the hell out of you, this is a serious matter. It is my prayer that your current administration will handle your business and keep things growing. We're all in this together, and losing Grambling would be like losing a leg....after all, each of our schools makes up the HBCU Body!

Hold your head up and please stay alive!


Ms. Jag4Jag, Said it best.

:lecture:
Propaganda or otherwise this is serious business. :shame:
As usual we Southernites are behind you 100%.
Hang in there and work this out!


I just had to use some of the new smilieys. I just love these! :spin:
 
Re: Old news

Originally posted by NASTYNUPE
These problems are not new and they're just hitting the mainstream. Resolutions are being made now to clean up the mess past administrators have made. These problems are no different from other universities(ofay) problems. Northeast University(University of Monroe or whatever they're called now) was going through it right along with us. But they only focus on the black universities when negative stuff is concerned.


nuff said......
 
What?!

Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
Whenever something like this topic is brought up y'all say something to the fact that it is nothing serious, or it's a big mix up that will be cleared up. Surely if it was just that than it wouldn't have gone this far. I knew something had to be going on like Grambling having money problems, because of them playing mainly in Classics every year, and not to mention the band wanting the other school to pay $20,000 for the band to travel to the game. And the excuse we would hear wouldn't add up. This is what I've been hearing from y'all.

What are you talking about, dude? What do the classics and the band have to do with our current situation? Never mind....don't answer....:rolleyes:
 
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