What Happens When Preachers and Deacons Go Clubbin'?


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What Happens When Preachers and Deacons Go Clubbin'?


11/12/04
Roosevelt Wright, Jr.
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I haven?t been clubbing in over 30 years. Imagine my surprise in recent weekends as I visited a few local clubs and saw what I wasn?t supposed to see.

What was I doing in the local clubs? Looking for you!

Usually when churches have revival we spend big dollars to bring in a big time speaker who usually rakes in about $1,000 or more for three nights work and all the food he can take home afterwards. We post announcements with other churches, in the religious section of the newspaper and on the religious radio stations.

It?s obvious that we want church folks to come to the revival.

We get to wave our hands, stomp our feet. We enjoy the great preaching and singing. We have a good time and fool ourselves like we have actually been seeking the lost. That?s how we explain the cost. In reality, we spend thousands of dollars each year for Gospel entertainment in the name of revival.

Gospel entertainment has its place, but it?s certainly should not be confused with revival.

What would happen if all of the preachers, deacons, choir members, ushers and church folk would actually descend on the local clubs one night?

They might find what we found at Tabernacle when we did just that. We found a whole lot of church people among the crowds in local juke joints.

There were looks of surprise when some looked up and saw a church pastor, deacon and ministers coming into a juke joint.

One man who instantly recognized me, had his arm snuggly wrapped around a woman at table and almost choked.

?What the F?are you doing here?? He asked.

?What are you doing here is a better question. I?m looking for you.?

His next statement was loudly spoken in an inebriated breath, but nevertheless profound, ?I know you suppose to talk about going after the lost on Sunday, but you?re not suppose to really do it.!?

He then proceeded to warn everyone in the club that there was a preacher in the house.

He called me the next day to say, our presence was a real shocker and had disturbed him all day. ?It made me think.?

We went from club to club, paid our entrance fee and moved through the crowds passing out a little card that said, ?If tonight is the night that God chooses to visit you, would he be pleased with where he found you, what you are doing right now, and what you planning to do later on tonight??

One woman read the card on a dance floor and was convicted. She stopped dancing, got her purse and left, visibly upset.

I recognized a few young church people at a club in North Monroe and old church people at a watering hole in Booker T. I saw a few others at a Berg Jones Lane night spot.

The parking lots were full, despite a driving rain one night.

Some tried to explain to us why they were there. The words never came out right.

I wondered how many of those same church folk would attend a Sunday church service if they had to pay to get in, the lights were out, there was thick smoke in the air, trash on the floor, and the smell of intoxication everywhere.

I saw what I wasn?t supposed to see. I saw the other life of some people who attend our local churches. I saw two lives that are kept separate and distinct because preachers, deacons and Sunday School teachers are supposed to stay in their place as ?church folk? stay in their place.

It?s the same two lives I led when I was a young college student showing up at Tabernacle on Sunday and cutting the rug at the Town and Country or the Den on Winnsboro Road.

I kept those two lives separate until one day they clashed. One had to go.

Early, Sunday morning we were still out in the clubs passing out cards seeing what we were not supposed to see. What we saw were honest people, having what they considered to be a good time. They were not breaking any laws or being disruptive. They were just ?out.?

Many of them switch back and forth between the clubs at night and church on Sunday morning, until they finally fail to show up at one or the other.

Until they finally decide, they simply play the game.

We made the mistake of appearing in a way that caused both of their lives to clash. We broke the rule. Revival is supposed to mean Gospel Entertainment, not seeking the lost of the backslidden.

The words of the inebriated man still ring in my ears:

?I know you supposed to talk about going after the lost on Sunday, but you?re not supposed to really do it.!?

What an indictment!
 



I know of a town in Mississippi where the Deacons run the local juke joints........

And the 'Vera' character (from Harlem Nights) sings in the Choir......
:dude:
 
If it happened more often I'm sure a whole lot of those people playing church would be forced to make a big decision. "Clubbin" or Jesus?
 
Going to the Club doesn't make you any more of a sinner than the person in Church thinking about screwing somebody they ain't married to. They need to quit with this "shame you into Christianity" mess. Lusting at the club ain't no different than lusting on the street corner.

I still see why I'm allergic to church! :lecture:
 
chocalate_topaz said:
Going to the Club doesn't make you any more of a sinner than the person in Church thinking about screwing somebody they ain't married to. They need to quit with this "shame you into Christianity" mess. Lusting at the club ain't no different than lusting on the street corner.

I still see why I'm allergic to church! :lecture:


I have to agree with you to an extent. Sometimes we look at some things as worse than others when they are not. You could pass out the same paper in a church and get a lot of Amens but you have people sitting there with the same mentality of those you find in the club. Its all about emotions.
:shame:
 
I like kicking it with preachers. They keep it real. You have to dress up though, because they run through the spot like pimps. Clubs in themselves are not bad in my opinion. It is what you do at the club that makes the difference. If a man is single, I see nothing wrong with going to a laid back establishment, posting up and checking out the scene. I for one get tired seeing the same 5 or 6 single women in church every Sunday.

Just food for thought.
 
Interesting article.

I have known Rev. Wight all my life and I am not surprised by this article. Props to the hime town! And the Tabernacle Baptist Church Fam!
 
Walk up to me in the club and I'ma tell him "I'm enjoying myself. What about you???" If you gone be ashamed of being in the club if certain people see you in there, then you don't need to be in there. Myself, Pastor can come in and catch me shoving dollar bills at the skrip club, and I wouldn't be ashamed. It's where I wanted to be at that time.
 
chocalate_topaz said:
Going to the Club doesn't make you any more of a sinner than the person in Church thinking about screwing somebody they ain't married to. They need to quit with this "shame you into Christianity" mess. Lusting at the club ain't no different than lusting on the street corner.

I still see why I'm allergic to church! :lecture:

Really?? It seems like the target of this revival was what it should be: people who talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Either you is who you is or you ain't who you ain't. It's just a matter of keeping it real.

There are Christian clubs for people who need entertainment in a Christian environment. Obviously this church targeted people who were not participating in wholesome activities in the clubs they were in.
 
Robber said:
Maybe I should ask this on the Prayer Board. Is going to a club in and of itself a sinful act???

Going to a club is no more sinful than going to the grocery store. The questions the person must answer are:
  1. For what reason am I going?
  2. Is what I am doing while I am there sinful?

In my 42 years of living, the only times I have ever gone into a club was to bring someone else out of it. I have had no personal use for them. The environment provides no spiritual uplift for me. For me to go to clubs for "enjoyment of the atmosphere" would be sin.
 
dacontinent said:
Going to a club is no more sinful than going to the grocery store. The questions the person must answer are:
  1. For what reason am I going?
  2. Is what I am doing while I am there sinful?


I agree. The same questions can be asked about going to church.

*For what reason am I going?
*Is what I am doing while I am there sinful?

These questions can be asked about going anywhere we choose to go to.
 



dacontinent said:
Really?? It seems like the target of this revival was what it should be: people who talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Either you is who you is or you ain't who you ain't. It's just a matter of keeping it real.

Usually the folks talking the talk and not walking the walk are the ones lining the pews each Sunday morning, not the ones jamming in the clubs. Besides, who is he to judge who should be there. I guess you can tell this whole subject of "make me be a Christian like YOU think I should" doesn't sit right with me.
 
chocalate_topaz said:
Usually the folks talking the talk and not walking the walk are the ones lining the pews each Sunday morning, not the ones jamming in the clubs.
Well, I line the pew every Sunday because I KNOW I need Jesus. I'm hellified, vile, trifling etc. I do; however, think I'm smart because I realize I need a Savior. I've come to understand that my relationship with Him is not all about Him waiting on me to fall or flup up - it's one of intimacy based on His "first" love for me. It inspires me to be better everyday, encourages me when life gets hard to know He's got my back, his blessings and prosperity remind me He cares, He fulfils me beyond anything else because I know who I am & how I am and inspite of ALL of that He died for me.
 
chocalate_topaz said:
Going to the Club doesn't make you any more of a sinner than the person in Church thinking about screwing somebody they ain't married to. They need to quit with this "shame you into Christianity" mess. Lusting at the club ain't no different than lusting on the street corner.

I still see why I'm allergic to church! :lecture:

Amen!
 
I'd say Bro let me buy you a drink, while thinking to myself. "because I'm damn sure not going to ask you to dance". :fart:
 
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