skyvolt2000
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In that one you would have to get some more background information. Watch it and listen to what the boy doing the punching is saying-"You want to call me a (bleeping) f*ggot." From what I understand and have been told the victim starts up stuff and doesn't back it up. Isn't it odd that he just stood there and took those punches and didn't leave until the other kid told him to get out? In that one it seems the teacher is letting "justice" be done.
Who hasn't been called a name? Still, this is when the teacher could've and should've intervened. If the teachers don't show any kind of control in the classroom, then any student can attack another if he/she was called a name. Usually, as the teacher goes, so go the classroom.
I would have gotten the one being punched out of the classroom.
That's the one I was talking about. Remove him and the situation would more than likely have died down.
It is taught at many schools. Even ways to restrain a kid is taught. However those courses cost MONEY and in many cases take personal time on the staff to learn that stuff. Even if you learn all that stuff-you can still be fired or put on leave.
Lawsuits cost money too. If schools don't put preventive measures in place on the front end, this is what they'll get on the back end. A school usually gets back from the students what it puts in. Students usually know what classes they can act a fool in and what classes they can't.
See many school districts like mine are HATED by the community. You have parents that will SEND thier kids to school just to get teachers/staff fired. A former principal was attacked by a kid TWICE and the community sided with the kid.
Then that student should be suspended or expelled if there's evidence to show that he/she wasn't provoked by the teacher. Teachers have known to provoke students you know.
Oh and don't be a white empolyee facing a black kid-you will lose. I know one who quit because he feared he was going to kill the next kid that put hands on him because he was white. Never mind he was a Marine built like The Rock.
This is where the principal needs to support and protect his staff. If there are students who are bent on attacking staff, they need to be removed from the building. The teacher also has a right to press charges as well.
That stuff doesn't work on Pookie and Ray Ray. All that stuff doesn't cover OUR kids. Remember most of these training are done in white school districts where Degrassi, Glee and High School Musical are. Where PARENTS are active in thier kids education and kids are WILLING to listen and want to be more than a jailbird or dropout. Kids aren't that bold like they are in the second video.
So our kids are outlaws and nothing can reel them in because they're unruly monsters? Come on dude, I totally disagree with that. Of course you have that small 2-3 percent of students that don't give a damn about anything. They only care about doing what they wanna do when they wanna do as long as they wanna do it. These are the ones that need more intensive services in the school and perhaps in an alternative setting. They shouldn't be allowed to threaten and intimidate teachers without repercussions and consequences from the administrators.
Most of the de-escalation trainings are done in diverse populations and most of the time, if they're applied correctly, especially the verbal de-escalation techniques, they've been shown to work. I'm speaking from firshand experience.
What happens is that some adults get on the level of Ray-Ray, which is what Ray-Ray wants them to do, and they end up making the situation worse and putting themselves in a worse situation.
If Ray-Ray and his thugs want to attack adults, the principal should have the courage and balls to get them out of the school and into an alternative setting, but they need the evidence to show that they've put things in place to prevent physical assaults.
Where a lot of schools/districts get in trouble is when they don't have evidence to show that they've put in place preventive measures via trainings and crisis planning to help prevent violent incidents. If push comes to shove, this would be their evidence if the matter ever went to court and this would be the evidence that they could show the parents, where the teacher tried everything possible to work with their child, but the child wouldn't cooperate. With such evidence, the parent hasn't a leg to stand on with the school board or the court system, nevertheless the district
MUST be held accountable to put those things in place regardless of the population they're working with. Districts have standards they must abide by just like students do.
Again, the teachers also have the right to file charges and protect themselves as well. No staff member is supposed to just sit there and let a student physically attack him/her.
