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Warning: This is just for fun. It’s not a strength of schedule, but how attractive is your schedule for fans. We got masey an usatoday for strenght of schedule.

tsutiger’s 2006 1AA HBCU Schedule Rankings.

1st revision. Thanks for the previous suggestions. Any ideas to tweak it again?


Home Games
3 Points for playing tier 1 team at home
2 points for playing tier 2 team at home
1 points for playing tier 3 team at home

Bonus points
1 points for scheduling one of the Tier 1* as a homecoming opponent
1 point for scheduling a pre season top 25 1AA program at home
1 point for each home game

Classic Games
1 point for each Classic game

Bonus Points
2 point for playing in Classic vs. Tier 1* school
1 point for playing in Classic vs. Tier 2** school

Non Conference Games
2 points for playing a 1A program
1 point for scheduling opponent from autobid conference (A10, Big Sky, MEAC, SWAC, Gateway, SoCon, SouthLand, Great West, OVC)

Negative points
-2 for traveling to play a Division 2 school
-1 for each scheduled Division 2 school

* Tier 1
Southern, FAMU, NCA&T, Tenn St., Jack St., Grambling, South Carolina St., Alcorn St. Alabama St. Norfolk St.
** Tier 2
Eastern Ky., Jacksonville St., Tx Southern, Pine Bluff, Hampton, Alabama A&M, BCC, Morgan St., Howard, Miss Valley
*** Tier 3
SEMO, Samford, East Ill, Tenn Tech, Savannah St. P.V. Murray St., Tenn Martin, Del St, WSSU

**** Winston Salem State is Division 2 transitioning into 1AA.

1. Hampton
Home Games: Howard, NC A&T, Norfolk State, WSSU****, BCC (16)
Classic Games: MEAC/SWAC vs. Grambling, Urban League vs. Morgan, Circle City vs. Central State, Battle of the Bay vs. Norfolk St. (9)
Non Conference Games: Grambling (SWAC), Central State (Indy D2) (0)
Homecoming Opponent: WSSU****
Points: 25

2. Bethune-Cookman
Home Games: Savannah St., Norfolk St., Del State, WSSU****, A&T, Howard (17)
Classic Games: Gateway vs. SU, Florida vs. FAMU (6)
Non Conference Games: Southern (SWAC), Savannah State (Indy) (1)
Homecoming Opponent: WSSU****
Points: 24

3. Grambling State
Home Games: Jackson State, Alabama State, Alcorn St.(12)
Classic Games: MEAC/SWAC vs. Hampton (B Ham), State Fair vs. PVU (Dallas), Delta vs. Pine Bluff (Little Rock), Bayoo vs. SU (New Orleans) (8)
Non Conference Games: Hampton (MEAC), Houston (1A Conf. USA) (3)
Homecoming Opponent: Alabama State
Points: 23

4. Tennessee State
Home Games: AAMU, Murray St, Tenn. Tech, Samford, SEMO (11)
Classic Games: John Merritt vs. AAMU, Southern Heritage vs. JSU, Atlanta vs. FAMU (7)
Non Conference Games: AAMU (SWAC), FAMU (MEAC), VANDY (1A SEC), JSU (SWAC) (5)
Homecoming: Samford
Points: 23

5.Norfolk State
Home Games: Virginia State, VMI, NC A&T, FAMU, Morgan St. Del State, WSSU**** (19)
Classic Games: Labor Day vs. Virginia State, Fish Bowl vs. NC A&T (4)
Non Conference Games: Virginia State (D2 CIAA), VMI (Big South) (-1)
Homecoming Opponent: Morgan St.
Points: 22

6. Jackson State
Home Games: Miss Valley, Southern, AAMU, PVU (12)
Classic Games: Southern Heritage vs. TSU, Gulf Coast vs. Ala St, Capital City vs. Alcorn St. (9)
Non Conference Games: Paul Quinn (NAIA Red Rive Conf), Tennessee State (OVC) (0)
Homecoming Opponent: PVU
Points: 21

7. North Carolina A&T
Home Games: WSSU****, Morgan St. Howard, FAMU (12)
Classic Games: Fish Bowl Classic vs. Norfolk St, Charlotte vs. SCSU (6)
Non Conference Games: Louisiana-Lafayette (1A Sun Belt), Elon (Southern) (3)
Homecoming Opponent: Howard
Points: 21

8. Southern
Home Games: Miss Valley, NCCU, Alabama State, Tx Southern, Pine Bluff (15)
Classic Games: Gateway vs. BCC, Bayoo vs. Grambling (5)
Non Conference Games: BCC (MEAC), North Carolina Central (D2 CIAA) (0)
Homecoming Opponent: :?????
Points: 20

9. Alabama State
Home Games: TxSU, Pine Bluff, JSU, Miss Valley, Tuskegee (15)
Classic Games: Gulf Coast vs. Jackson State, Turkey Day vs. Tuskegee (4)
Non Conference Games Troy (1A Sun Belt), Tuskegee (D2 SIAC) (1)
Homecoming Opponent: Turkey Day vs. Tuskegee
Points: 20

10 Florida A&M
Home Games: WSSU****, SCSU, Morgan St., Hampton (8)
Classic Games: Detroit vs. Del State, Atlanta vs. TSU, Florida vs. BCC (7)
Non Conference Games: Miami (1A ACC), TSU (OVC) (3)
Homecoming Opponent: Morgan State
Points: 18

11. Alabama A&M
Home Games: Grambling, Southern, PVU, Stillman (12)
Classic Games: John A. Merritt vs. TSU, Magic City vs. ASU (6)
Non Conference Games: Tennessee State (OVC), Stillman (D2 SIAC) (0)
Homecoming Opponent: Stillman
Points: 18

12. Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Home Games: Alcorn, Southern Ill, AAMU, Jackson St., TxSU (17)
Classic Games: Chicago, Gateway (St. Louis) vs. Miss Valley (1)
Non Conference Games: Tuskegee (D2 SIAC), Southern Illinois (Gateway) (0)
Homecoming Opponent: Alabama A&M
Points: 18

13. Alcorn State
Home Games: Alabama St., TxSU, SU, JSU (15)
Classic Games: Capital City vs. Jackson St.(3)
Non Conference Games: @Louisiana-Monroe (1A Sun Belt), @ Langston (NAIA Central State League) (0)
Homecoming Opponent: TxSU
Points: 18

14. Prairie View A&M
Home Games: Edward Waters, Southern (In Houston), Langston, Alcorn, Alabama St., Pine Bluff (In Houston) (15)
Classic Games: Labor Day vs. TxSU, State Fair vs. Grambling (5)
Non Conference Games: Edward Waters (NAIA), Langston (D2) (-2)
Homecoming Opponent: Pine Bluff (In Houston)
Points: 18

15. Texas Southern
Home Games: AAMU, JSU, Miss Valley, Grambling (14)
Classic Games: Labor Day vs. PVU (1)
Non Conference Games: New Mexico State (1A WAC), Texas State (Southland) (3)
Homecoming Opponent: Miss Valley
Points: 18

16. South Carolina State
Home Games: BCC, Norfolk St. Hampton, Howard (13)
Classic Games: Charlotte vs. NC A&T (3)
Non Conference Games: Wofford (Southern), Coastal Carolina (Big South) (1)
Homecoming Opponent: Howard
Points: 17

17. Delaware State
Home Games: St. Francis, Hampton, NC A&T, SC State, Concordia (15)
Classic Games: Detroit vs. FAMU (3)
Non Conference Games: Northwestern State (Southland), St Francis (Northeastern 1AA mind major), Concordia (D2 WVA) (-1)
Homecoming Opponent: NC A&T
Points: 17

18. Miss Valley State
Home Games: AAMU, Grambling, Alcorn, PVU (13)
Classic Games: Chicago Classic vs. Pine Bluff (2)
Non Conference Games: Concordia (NAIA ???), North Dakota State (Great West) (0)
Homecoming Opponent: PVU
Points: 15

19. Howard
Home Games: FAMU, Morgan State, Norfolk State, Delaware State (13)
Classic Games: None (0)
Non Conference Games: Rutgers (1A Big East), Fort Valley State (D2 CIAA) )1)
Homecoming Opponent: Morgan State
Points: 14

20. Morgan State
Home Games: Bowie State, BCC, Del State, SC State (11)
Classic Games: Urban League vs. Hampton (2)
Non Conference Games: @ Towson (A-10), @ Monmouth (1AA Mid Major Northeastern Conf.), Bowie State (D2 CIAA) (-1)
Homecoming Opponent: Del State
Points: 12

21. Savannah State
Home Games: Liberty, Charleston Southern, WSSU****, Edward Waters (8)
Classic Games: Palmetto vs. Benedict, Joe Turner vs. Liberty, CSRA vs. Morehouse (3)
Non traditional Opponents: Liberty (Big South), Charleston Southern (Big South), Coastal Carolina (Big South), Cal Poly State (Great West) (1)
Homecoming Opponent: WSSU**
Points: 12

22. Winston Salem State
Home Games: SC State, Coastal Carolina, Howard, St. Augustine’s (11)
Classic Games: None (0)
Non Conference Games: Catawba, Coastal Carolina, St. Augustine’s, Savannah State (-2)
Homecoming Opponent: Howard
Points: 9
 

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jag4life said:
LOL...you made up your own formula to rank TnSU #1. lol
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LOL. Actually I didn't make this thinking TSU would finished #1. Also note i said the formula needs to be revised.
 
tsutiger said:
* Big 6 Grambling, Tennessee State, Florida A&M, Southern, Jackson St., North Carolina A&T
** Winston Salem State is Division 2 transitioning into 1AA.

Of course, just like the BCS, the tsutiger formula needs to be revised to make it better. Give me some suggestions.
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lose that "big 6" mess with a QUICKNESS.

last year for your "big 6", only 2 had a winning record, the others-----
A&T- 3-8
JSU 2-9
TnSt 2-9
SU 4-5
:scared::scared:

if you're objective, then you'll see that doesn't fly.

btw, your formula doesnt consider 1A teams?
 
mighty hornet said:
lose that "big 6" mess with a QUICKNESS.

last year for your "big 6", only 2 had a winning record, the others-----
A&T- 3-8
JSU 2-9
TnSt 2-9
SU 4-5
:scared::scared:

if you're objective, then you'll see that doesn't fly.

btw, your formula doesnt consider 1A teams?
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Key word there, mh.....objective.
 
mighty hornet said:
lose that "big 6" mess with a QUICKNESS.

last year for your "big 6", only 2 had a winning record, the others-----
A&T- 3-8
JSU 2-9
TnSt 2-9
SU 4-5
:scared::scared:

if you're objective, then you'll see that doesn't fly.

btw, your formula doesnt consider 1A teams?
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EXACTLY... "Big6" should be the 6 best teams from the year, not historically. Plus, TnSU will get more points if you put in extra for playing PWCs because you play in the OVC.
 
Also looking at your formula, your ranking will never change throughout the season. Howard could go undefeated and still end up ranked where they are. TnSU could lose every game and stay where they are.
 
mighty hornet said:
lose that "big 6" mess with a QUICKNESS.

last year for your "big 6", only 2 had a winning record, the others-----
A&T- 3-8
JSU 2-9
TnSt 2-9
SU 4-5
:scared::scared:

if you're objective, then you'll see that doesn't fly.

btw, your formula doesnt consider 1A teams?
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Mighty Hornet.

You can't discount the Big 6. These are the programs that bring people to the stadium. If your an AD is trying to sell season ticket packages, a 4-5 SU is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more attractive then defending SWAC champs Pine Bluff.

Also in the non conference section i gave 2 points for playing a 1A school.

A&T 3-8 but 9th in 1AA attendance
JSU 2-9 but 10th in 1AA attendance
TSU 2-9 but 8th in 1AA attendance
SU 4-5 but 4th in 1AA attendance

Alabama A&M SWAC east champ but 61st in 1AA attendance
Alabama State defending SWAC champ and finished 3rd in SWAC 13th in 1AA attendance.
It's not always about wins and losses but who your playing.
 
Eliminate the "Big 6"

1 point for a preseason I-AA top 25 team at home or neutral site
2 points for a preseason I-AA top 25 team on the road
 
ummm tiger,

is your ranking suppose to be based on the strength of schedule or how "attractive" an opponent may be?

seems like you're trying to combine the two.......
:scared:
 
tsutiger said:
Mighty Hornet.

You can't discount the Big 6. These are the programs that bring people to the stadium. If your an AD trying to sell season ticket packages, a 4-5 SU is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more attractive then defending SWAC champs Pine Bluff.

Also in the non conference section i gave 2 points for playing a 1A school.
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That's garbage!

HAMPTON, DELAWARE ST and SCSU ran your conference last year, yet they get no pub...:retard:

Get rid of the "big 6" crap! That's all in YOUR opinion.
Keep it OBJECTIVE! :smash:


GRAM4LIFE:

Wouldn't it make more sense to get more points for scheduling a preseason I-AA top 25 team at home than at THEIR field???
 
Ntelekt said:
GRAM4LIFE:

Wouldn't it make more sense to get more points for scheduling a preseason I-AA top 25 team at home than at THEIR field???
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Not if we are talking about schedule strength... It is harder to win on the road than at home. Therefore, the road game would make your schedule harder increasing it's strength.
 
mighty hornet said:
ummm tiger,

is your ranking suppose to be based on the strength of schedule or how "attractive" an opponent may be?

seems like you're trying to combine the two.......
:scared:
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Not a S of S or i would have posted previous records. How attractive is your schedule.
 
***Big 6*** ???????!!???!?? I don't need to read or post anything else......



Somebody please put an old Richard Pryor pic and under it put some of y'all N*ggaz are crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
GRAM4LIFE said:
Eliminate the "Big 6"

1 point for a preseason I-AA top 25 team at home or neutral site
2 points for a preseason I-AA top 25 team on the road
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Why would you give more points, for playing on the road? Doesn't Pine Bluff schedule look way more attractive playing SU or TSU at home vs. playing at Georgia Southern?
 

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GRAM4LIFE said:
Not if we are talking about schedule strength... It is harder to win on the road than at home. Therefore, the road game would make your schedule harder increasing it's strength.
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That's just it...
I was keying on the "attractiveness" of the schedule instead. :)

Like MH made reference to, tsutiger didn't exactly specify which he was focusing on.
 
tsutiger said:
Why would you give more points, for playing on the road? Doesn't Pine Bluff schedule look way more attractive playing SU or TSU at home vs. playing at Georgia Southern?
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So this isn't about strength of schedule? Well, let me get out of this conversation...
Ntelekt said:
That's just it...

I was keying on the "attractiveness" of the schedule instead.



Like MH made reference to, tsutiger didn't exactly specify which he was focusing on.
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My bad, Man... I thought this was about who had the harder schedule.
 
tsutiger said:
A&T 3-8 but 9th in 1AA attendance
JSU 2-9 but 10th in 1AA attendance
TSU 2-9 but 8th in 1AA attendance
SU 4-5 but 4th in 1AA attendance
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mane some of ya'll will make up any kind of b.s....this is ridiculous, y'all got this ordained minister ROTF laughin his blessed Assuraunce off..........this is the laugh I needed to make it through my day..........LOL

tsutiger...may the best team win in Nashville..................LOL..............



Big 6!!!???!!!? LOL
 
tsutiger said:
It?s not a strength of schedule, but how attractive is your schedule for fans. We got masey an usatoday for strenght of schedule.
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So you're saying TnSU has the MOST ATTRACTIVE schedule for fans? HBCU fans?
 
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