Tony Cole Ain't Lying...


Originally posted by MikeBigg
I don't see Tony trying to paint himself as a victim.
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Then Mike, you're seeing a totally different situation than 95% of the rest of us who have commented on this topic. That's all he's doing, man! Read this quote from the article that mighty hornet posted above:

"Tony has had more help than anybody I've ever known," Jacobs said. "I realize he has had difficult beginnings; where a person comes from is going to impact them. But sooner or later, you have to make up your mind how you want it to turn out. Everybody has been trying to give his sad beginning a happy ending, but it seems like it always turns out like this, with him angry with somebody about something."

..and this is from someone who has known this kid for a while. If that's not painting your benefactor as the culprit, I don't know what is! When the kid sat there, and SMILED CONFIDENTLY about not making the "A" and boasted about "not gettting up at no 8:00 in the morning," I knew then that his bread wasn't done on the top! Anytime I see a kid who is happy that he's a poor student, and who thinks he acheived something by running up the phone bill of someone who allowed him a place to lay his stupid head, I have no sympathy for him!

He needs serious help, and not the kind that comes from money or basketball!

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Okay, but where did he say he was the victim! I don't recall him saying he was done wrong...Hell he ain't even hiding the fact of why he's doing it. He's pissed cuz everyone was breaking rules and now I'm the only one getting tossed.

Remember, the girl said the sex with Cole was consentual and everyone else raped her. But then Cole is the only one booted off the team. Yeah, I know he is a problem child. But don't you think the Harricks knew this coming in? I'm glad yall are defending and feeling sorry for Harrick. Just please refrain in the future from attempting to smack Bama State about LC Cole. Hell, Harrick's antics make anything Cole does look like Sunday Communion!
 



Where did I say I feel sorry for Harrick? Harrick made his bed in this sordid mess, just like Cole. The issue again is how a young man, who constantly had folks bail his @ss out of situations time and time again, could then turn on those same folks (right or wrong) when they finally reached the last straw with him. Looks to me like they did all they could for him UNTIL he felt like he was even above a sexual assault charge.

How many more breaks did this kid think he should get? He already wasn't going to class, so that alone tells you that he didn't give a hoot in Hell about a college education! They deserve to be fired, true enough. The same could be said for him with the latest charges against him....he deserves to go to jail! That might be just the awakening he needs to help him realize that he's gotta do something for himself at some point in time in his life.

The Harricks are NOT INNOCENT. No one is saying they are. But you talk about what he did for them. What about what they did FOR HIM? Sounds to me like he had people in his corner, attempting to help him long before the two Jims came along!

As the guy in the article said, he has a way of "pissin' on" the folks who've tried to help him in the past. From whence will his help come now?

Making the Harricks the villains, doesn't minimize what this kid knew all along was wrong when he was getting the "goodies."
 
Originally posted by MikeBigg
But why am I the only one here who sees Jim Harrick and son for who they are?
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You're not. I just didnt bother to post anything about it since by the time I noticed the thread, it was long and mostly anti-Tony Cole.

I'm like you though, while I see TC as being wrong I also see the Harrick's being at fault as well. While some outlined the troubles that Mr. Cole has had, they somehow failed to mention Mr. Harrick's past troubles. Convenience to support their argument, I guess. Anyhoot, we'll see what happens with this but their arses needed to be, and have been, exposed.
 
Originally posted by MikeBigg
I don't see Tony trying to paint himself as a victim. I see a cat who is out to get those who got me.
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So, how did they "GET" him? No one told Tony to go and try to force someone to sleep with him. It's not the first time he had done that. Had he kept his spoon in his pants and played ball, he might be looking at going to the league. But no, he figured, he can force people to sleep with him, get off on the charges, and continue to play ball.

By no means do I condone the actions of the Harricks...hell, it happens EVERYDAY in college sports. They all take a risk giving extra benefits to athletics. It looks like the Harricks may have "crapped" out again.

At the rate Tony Cole is going, the only basketball he will be playing is at the local park. If he is as great as everyone says he is, he shouldn't have a problem trying out for a team, right?
 
Tony Cole putting his teammates under the bus is very shameful. The Georgia basketball players are innocent but they are the ones going to suffer.
 
Originally posted by Media Guy
Tony Cole putting his teammates under the bus is very shameful. The Georgia basketball players are innocent but they are the ones going to suffer.
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And Tony Cole gives less than a damn. :smh:
 
They're not all innocent. What about those who were with Tony during the alleged rape but who were allowed back on the team? They really stood up for Cole didn't they?

Let's be real, if they had been booted then they would be a part of the Tony Cole Mass Choir and singing their azzes off! Please don't try to paint these kids as innocent. They are as guilty as Cole and Harrick, just wait til the NCAA turns the heat up on them and watch them squeal.
 
Damn Mike,
You got it real bad for Tony Cole.
First it was Harrick you wanted to attack, now it's the other players you wanna attack.

sad!

Do you know if the other kids who were accused of rape and reinstated were going to class? Did they have other rape allegations come out against them shortly after the one in Athens did?

c'mon, take the blinders off man.
 
Tony might have won the battle but he has loss the war.

and whatever adult(s) that been advising him is to blame also.
 
Ain't got isht going for Tony Cole. He screwed himself in this situation and those past. What I'm trying to get you folk to understand is that there are no innocent parties here.

Someone alluded to the other "innocent" players. Had they been tossed they would have probably done the same thing as Tony Cole. What I was trying to point out is that none of the "teammates" stuck their neck out for Cole so how can yall expect him to do the same for them.

I agree that Tony Cole caused all of his own problems. I like the kid but I admit that he has some serious flaws. His hustling ways are catching up with him... Go back and read the title of this thread. It says: Tony Cole Ain't Lying! Never did I say that Tony was an innocent, never did I say he deserved a second chance. What I have said and maintained all alone is that I'M GLAD JIM HARRICK AZZ GOT SQUEALED ON AND I'M GLAD THIS ALL CAME OUT IN THE OPEN!
 
Why was Tony Cole kicked off of the team and others allowed to play? We may start by the fact that the people at Georgia know more than what was reported in the media. When they look at all what Cole did as oppose to the rest, they may have felt that Cole committed more team violations than the others. Or they may have felt that Cole committed one act too many. Note that violating a team or university rule is not always like violating the law.

Anyway, the quote that he had more help than others does not look good on him when one considers he present state. I bet that I know people in Athens, GA and Baton Rouge who has come in contact with him. I will also bet that he could have gotten help if he wanted it. Understand this. I am the biggest proponent of second chances. But sometimes a person will have to let some people alone.
 
Mike,
When the allegations were dropped, Tony Cole originally was reinstated along with the other players. He was subsequently suspended when the other stuff surfaced that happened in Rhode Island and he wasn't going to class.

How should his teammates have stuck their necks out for him for stuff like that?
 
Understand me good...Don't nobody owe Tony Cole a dayum thing. If someone wants to try and help him then that's their right. If someone chooses to simply say, "cfuk, Tony Cole his azz is nothing but trouble" then likewise that's their right.

I've heard Jim Harrick claim that the teammates voted Tony off the team for being a trouble maker and hard to deal with. I can believe that's true. But I can also believe that Harrick is trying to point fingers just like Cole is doing. Apparently that is okay because "Coaches are supposed to act like that". I hold Jim Harrick accountable for his action.

He could have helped Tony Cole without breaking the rules. Then he could have kicked him off and ain't a dayum thing Tony could do to hurt him. Had Harrick not broken the rules (rules he was well aware of) then all Tony Cole would be now is a liar. BUT, Cole is not lying. Harrick knew of Cole's background and reputation...a con man like Harrick should have recognized the con-man Cole. But his azz was greedy and he cheated to get an edge. Now that his azz is caught, he blames Cole and a lot of you with sheep mentality dismisses it as being "business as usual".
 
I aint NEVER defended, legitimized, or apologized for Harrick's actions.
Just like I'm NOT doing it for Tony Cole.

He could have helped Tony Cole
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I guess that's the bottom line.
Helping Tony Cole, keep on helping Tony Cole, regardless of the situation, just help Tony Cole.

carry on...
 



Please show me once in my many post where I said Tony was innocent. Tony uses people to get what he wants...pretty much like 100% of the human race. The thing is he goes overboard to use folk...one thing he lost a long time ago is his innocence.

I bet an investigation of the rape (where the girl said her sex with Cole was consentual, but not with the others) would that the authorities at Georgia got the other players off the hook. Was that right? Hell no!
 
You may not have said he was innocent, but you shole applauded the fact that he had his hand out, took the goodies for as long as he did, and then ratted when they said no more.
 
Nope...wrong again. I described him as a huster who hustling ways caught up with him. I did the fact that he told on Harrick. Not because he should "get back at them" (which was his motive) but because I'm glad that the fraud and hypocrisy that permeates big college athletics is getting exposed. I want to see Jim Harrick get his just rewards in this case. Then if another college is crazy enuff to allow him to coach or Tony to play then that's on them...they'll realize soon enuff their mistake.
 
Harrick should have been smart enough to realize that he was messing with a hustler. The risk of doing illegal favors for Tony far more out weigh the reward.

Harrick has a national championship under his belt, trips to the final 4, and coaching at one of the top b-ball programs in the nation. Not to mention the opportunity to move his son up the coaching ranks (like Don/Donnie Nelson). He risked all of that on a kids with a bad rap sheet? Not smart. There has got to be another Tony Cole out there with the Tony Cole skills and not the Tony Cole rap sheet. I would not have done him any favors after the offer of the scholarship.

Harrick played himself and he will pay for it. Tony will continue to live his day-to-day life of being a nobody.
 
Originally posted by Da_Sperm
Harrick played himself and he will pay for it. Tony will continue to live his day-to-day life of being a nobody.
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Exactly!

The sad part is that the Tony Cole supporters only seem to realize the part about Harrick having to pay.
 
Originally posted by MikeBigg
Ain't got isht going for Tony Cole. He screwed himself in this situation and those past. What I'm trying to get you folk to understand is that there are no innocent parties here.
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I agree with this statement. I watched the Harrick interview with Vitale, and I believe he was not being honest. Even Vitale was second guessing him. It is obvious the AD at UGA does not believe him either or he would not have booted Jr.

Like everyone else has been saying, Tony did not have to do this in this manner. This is some sissy crap he has pulled. What Cole has caused trouble for UGA and the Harricks and he has black balled himself. No one will touch him. I understand the kid has skills on the court, but no one will want to be bothered with a rat.
 
You're right DaSperm! Harrick was not only a crook, but a dumb one. Or else he was so arrogant that he thought he would get away with it. Seems like the chicken have come to roost for him. But he will probably land on his feet somewhere else in some capacity.

Now to be honest, Tony is trouble and unless he straightens up he will continue to have problems. The kid really needs to grow up and change his ways. There were a lot of people who tried to help him and not for selfish reasons. Those are the people that he has wronged. Harrick is getting what he deserved and hopefully those that were legally wronged by Tony Cole in the sexual assault will also see justice done.
 
Originally posted by MikeBigg

Now to be honest, Tony is trouble and unless he straightens up he will continue to have problems. The kid really needs to grow up and change his ways. There were a lot of people who tried to help him and not for selfish reasons. Those are the people that he has wronged. Harrick is getting what he deserved and hopefully those that were legally wronged by Tony Cole in the sexual assault will also see justice done.
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Mike,

The final statement I'll make in reference to your above post is...
Jim Harrick will find friends and associates to go to bat for him in the future. He maybe tarnished, but he's not done.

Tony Cole, meanwhile, doesn't have a leg to stand on, and no one whom he can go to for even a bowl of cereal! And he brought it on himself!

'Nuff said!
 
Well I can say one thing about Tony Cole, he certainly got a lot of yall excited. I mean, there are two threads talking about this guy. There are over 70 posts and 1112 views per thread. Dayum, this must be some kind of record.
 
Don't count Tony Cole out. Although his grades don't show it, he's pretty industrious. An article even mentioned that he's been going down to the Sheriff's office to check on properties with tax liens against them. I know quite a few realty investors who have done pretty well acquiring these properties, fixing them and selling them for a nice profit.

It takes money, but Cole knows how to get his hands on cash. With his basketball skills he can make some type of pro team. Trust me, the dude can really ball. Don't know how long he will last because he has a tendency to self-destruct, but someone will give him a shot...he's really got game.
 
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