To the JSU fans....


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uSmBacker

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I am hijacking this post from our Eagle Talk board. AAE can speak for me:

Posted by AAE on 9/1/2002, 10:52 am
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Thanks for bringing about 10000 loving, believing fans to our city. Your pride in your team was evident and those who came by my tailgating area were gracious before the game and after--as were those sitting near me at the game.
Thanks for filling every hotel room in Hattiesburg and many in Laurel and Columbia. So called major programs like Tulane, UAB and Memphis bring almost no one to Hattiesburg, even when they have decent teams.

You may be 1AA in fact but you travel and support your team better than many 1A teams. If you were 1A I would certainly support playing you in Jackson but it is unacceptable for any 1A team to travel to a 1AA to play. I don't think it has happened in years.

Robert Kent is a great QB. Be proud of him and your team's effort. If you solve your special team problems you have the potential to win all remaining games.

You were part of a record tonight--a record which would not have been set without your outstanding fan support. Count me as a JSU friend and supporter for the rest of this year and in future years. I am "Always An Eagle" but certainly wish you the best and will follow your team thru the media and pull for you to win the SWAC this year.

If you choose to adopt a second team to support, I ask that it be Southern Miss. Our universities are both treated as second class by those northern schools and we have much more to gain working as friends than by acting otherwise.

AAE
 



I had a blast yesterday, until halfway thru the 2nd quarter. I am still sore from tailgating (first time that's happened). USM fans were great. Guys next to us bootlegged some cable from a USM building (USM fans). After the game, I chatted with them about the debacle.

Y'all gotta up the ante if you want us back, though. At least, that's what I'd prefer.
 
Robber,

Y'all gotta up the ante if you want us back, though. At least, that's what I'd prefer.
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Paper: Houston Chronicle
Date: FRI 08/30/02
Section: SPORTS
Page: 1
Edition: 3 STAR

Longest season may set a trend /Teaff: 12 games won't go away

By MICHAEL MURPHY
Staff

Saturday night, Maryland and Notre Dame will hook up in the annual Kickoff Classic at Giants Stadium in New Jersey, a game one might assume would mark the official start of the college football season .

You would be wrong to make such an assumption.

Before the Irish and the Terps mix it up at 7 p.m., there will have been 93 college football games already kicked off.

The overabundance of games is thanks in part to a raft of relatively anonymous preseason "classics," but also because of an NCAA rule that allows teams to take on a 12th regular-season game in years there are 14 Saturdays between Labor Day and Nov. 30. In addition to this season , teams will be able to pick up an extra game in 2003, 2008, 2013 and 2014.

So many teams have taken advantage, booking a 13-game regular season , with the possibility of a 14th game should a bowl invitation come their way. The extreme is represented by Nebraska and/or Texas Tech - should either (or both) make the Big 12 title game and then a bowl, it would mean a 15-game season - just one weekend shy of an NFL schedule.

Which means starting the season earlier.

A glance through the University of Houston media guide shows only three times that the Coogs have played before September - two Aug. 31 games (against Sam Houston State in 1996 and Louisiana Tech in 1991) and one Aug. 30 game (vs. Alabama in 1997).

But 11 of the 14 teams involved in this year's preseason games (such as the Hispanic College Fund Football Classic and the John Thompson Foundation Classic) will have played two games before September.

Get used to it because if Grant Teaff, executive director of the American Football Coaches Association is correct, such lengthy seasons might soon become the norm.

"The (school) administrators are saying, `Well, we're only going to do this (add another game ) every four years,' but I think that once they look and say, `Well, with 12 (regular-season ) games we can bring in another $1 million or $2 million,' I think we stand a real good chance of ending up getting 12 games every year," Teaff said. "It won't happen next year because it's not in the legislation, but there's a good possibility it will happen."

Which could lead to some of the absurd situations we're seeing this year - Auburn playing four games in the season 's first 18 days, Michigan State's 12 -game schedule that features eight home games, and San Jose State and Arkansas State playing on 13 consecutive weekends (Kansas, BYU and Iowa will go 12 straight).

Another factor to consider - some true freshmen will have played a game or two before attending a class. That means less time to earn money for the upcoming school year, adding to the financial burden student-athletes are forced to endure.

If the additional game is indeed adopted, as Teaff seems to think, then expect to hear coaches lobbying to expand more than the regular season .

"Simply put, with 85 scholarships, with 13, 14 and 15 games, that's pretty slim pickings with depth over that period of time because of injuries and so forth," Teaff said. "That's the problem the coaches face.

"Will it (a 12th regular-season game ) happen? I think it's a possibility, and if it does then we have to look at the real strong concern that we have concerning the 85 scholarships. Our desire would be to go to 90, which would go over like the proverbial lead balloon.

"What happens, and this is the statistical truth because over the last 19 years we (the AFCA) have done surveys based on retention, is that we average 79.5 guys on scholarship at any given institution. That's an average. That means that while you have 85 scholarships (available), but you never have 85 on scholarship. Very seldom will that occur.

"You have injuries and such (that thin the rosters), but you also have to think about kickers, quarterbacks and snappers who don't play (any other position), which cuts into that 85 (players) even more.

"So when you start talking about playing 12 , 13, 14 or 15 games, the question is, `Can you hold up?' It's not a major concern right now, but it's something we'll probably have to deal with eventually."

That's because for most teams, the decision to add the extra game was easy. As Teaff indicated, money is the motivating force behind the glut of games.

"(Each home game ) means about $1.8 million per game for us," said Michigan State assistant athletic director John Lewandowski, who referred to the Spartans' eight home games as a scheduling quirk. "And that's just from ticket sales and not anything else.
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"We're a little bit different from other folks because we don't get all the concessions and we don't get all the parking (revenue), but in just ticket revenue it's roughly $1.8 million per game ."
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Which means 1.8 million reasons (or more - Nebraska makes between $2.5 million and $3 million per home game ) to put an additional burden on the student-athletes.
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Part of that load will be eased next year when the NCAA axes all preseason games except the Black Coaches Association Classic, which has a TV contract that runs through 2004.

Still, the college football regular season seems to swell with each passing year, leading to the inevitable question - if kids can play a 15-game season , why can't they participate in a playoff system?

The argument most often used against a playoff has been the number of games it would require, a number usually quoted as (gasp!) 15 games.

With the Bowl Championship Series contracts extending until 2004, college football fans are stuck with the current bowl system. And that system has been bloated by meaningless games - now 28 - meaning 56 of the 117 Division I-A teams are invited to the postseason.

All those games, yet no playoff system to crown the champion?

"Will there ever be a form of a playoff? Possibly," Teaff said. "Say you took four teams at the end of the (BCS) bowl season and have a two-game playoff. That could happen. But you're never going to have a tiered playoff. That is not going to happen.

"But certainly a valid argument (for a playoff format) is there. If you're going to play 14 or 15 games in a season , why couldn't you do it? Well, you could, but the right people don't want it."
 
Originally posted by uSmBacker
I am hijacking this post from our Eagle Talk board. AAE can speak for me:

Posted by AAE on 9/1/2002, 10:52 am
152.163.188.229

Thanks for bringing about 10000 loving, believing fans to our city. Your pride in your team was evident and those who came by my tailgating area were gracious before the game and after--as were those sitting near me at the game.
Thanks for filling every hotel room in Hattiesburg and many in Laurel and Columbia. So called major programs like Tulane, UAB and Memphis bring almost no one to Hattiesburg, even when they have decent teams.

You may be 1AA in fact but you travel and support your team better than many 1A teams. If you were 1A I would certainly support playing you in Jackson but it is unacceptable for any 1A team to travel to a 1AA to play. I don't think it has happened in years.

Robert Kent is a great QB. Be proud of him and your team's effort. If you solve your special team problems you have the potential to win all remaining games.

You were part of a record tonight--a record which would not have been set without your outstanding fan support. Count me as a JSU friend and supporter for the rest of this year and in future years. I am "Always An Eagle" but certainly wish you the best and will follow your team thru the media and pull for you to win the SWAC this year.

If you choose to adopt a second team to support, I ask that it be Southern Miss. Our universities are both treated as second class by those northern schools and we have much more to gain working as friends than by acting otherwise.

AAE
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This is sad. What's sadder is that he as well as some of you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not smacking at all, but just stating something truthful.
 
Re: Re: To the JSU fans....

Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
This is sad. What's sadder is that he as well as some of you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not smacking at all, but just stating something truthful.
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Feel free to educate us dumb folk then, instead of making your little snide comment and not explaining yourself. I'm betting that whatever problem YOU saw, is something that's been debated, argued, and fussed over a gazillion times.
 
Overall it was a decent event. I was bothered by the area the JSU fans we sold tickets in as well as the fact that the end zones seats were not adaquate for a band the size of the BOOM. The overall experience was ok, though there were a few idiots on campus as we progressed from the buses to the stadium.
 
Re: Re: Re: To the JSU fans....

Originally posted by Robber

I'm betting that whatever problem YOU saw, is something that's been debated, argued, and fussed over a gazillion times.
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So why are you getting sour grapes with me? :smh:
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: To the JSU fans....

Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
So why are you getting sour grapes with me? :smh:
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No sour grapes here. I just don't like peep who make blanket statements like you made without explanation. You talk about how sad it is that we don't see a problem, then tell us the problem.
 
I'm glad you said it ROB because I don't know what the heck this cat is talkling about either. My guess is that most of us don't know.

Please enlighten us, oh wise one.....
 
Dayum y'all are some touchy mofos. :rolleyes: I didn't call any of you sad or anything. I said what he was saying was sad. I shouldn't need to explain now, but if you still need me to I will. You appear to know what I'm referring to Robber so I still don't know why you getting riled up that I called a spade a spade.
 
Standing outside the window peeping in. let me see if I can detect what MR SWAC is talking about.
It appears to me, the poster from USM is just saying THANKS, to the JSU SUPPORTORS for making the game a success. I did not detect any derogatory remarks toward the fans or team. It true that JSU is a 1AA team and very few ?if any? 1A teams will travel to a 1AA program to play. And it?s true JSU has more supporters that those 1A programs mentioned.
 
Originally posted by H
Standing outside the window peeping in. let me see if I can detect what MR SWAC is talking about.
It appears to me, the poster from USM is just saying THANKS, to the JSU SUPPORTORS for making the game a success. I did not detect any derogatory remarks toward the fans or team. It true that JSU is a 1AA team and very few ?if any? 1A teams will travel to a 1AA program to play. And it?s true JSU has more supporters that those 1A programs mentioned.
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Can't be it. You didn't say a thang we didn't already know. I know exactly what he said and meant. And we helped them make a ton of money. And it is my position that I would rather the next game be in Jackson. BUT!!!! If they offered enough money (say $300K) I wouldn't have a problem going back down there.
 
Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
Dayum y'all are some touchy mofos. :rolleyes: I didn't call any of you sad or anything. I said what he was saying was sad. I shouldn't need to explain now, but if you still need me to I will. You appear to know what I'm referring to Robber so I still don't know why you getting riled up that I called a spade a spade.
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Mr.SWAC......

When one has to eat a isht sandwich the size of Texas, well....................I guess they're going to be a bit touchy??? They'll probably start jumping out of windows after this weekend???
 



Originally posted by STRAWDOG




Mr.SWAC......

When one has to eat a isht sandwich the size of Texas, well....................I guess they're going to be a bit touchy??? They'll probably start jumping out of windows after this weekend???
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S _ _. Ain't nobody touchy. I just asked the man to explain himself. And he still hasn't. Makes me wonder if he knew what HE meant.

And ain't nobody ate no isht sandwich. The problem with many of you folk on this board is that y'all take EVERYTHING too seriously. Y'all don't understand the concept of smacking even though you know you staring a loss in the face. Y'all just give up.
 
STRAW
Since you seem to understand what he's saaying, then why don't YOU explain. If someone doesn't know what you're talking about, for future reference and as a general rule, you should make the effort to clarify your position. Calling people "touchy" because they don't understand something, makes the situation worse.

All we asked for was an explanation and we're still waiting.
 
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