TnSt Football News: 2007

[mjaamu83]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

Year in and year out...I still haven't figured out why you folks discuss football with TP.

He continually shows no matter how bad things can get, hope springs eternal. Also I enjoy the excuses the most though, he must have a million of them.

 

[Normal1875]

no your wrong mj83..a gazillion!

 

[Tigerpride]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

He continually shows no matter how bad things can get, hope springs eternal. Also I enjoy the excuses the most though, he must have a million of them.

Actually, I don't call 3 bad years in the last 40 too bad.

We are Jackson State. I only have one excuse when it comes to AAMU and that is that you could only beat Bell (like eveyone else) and a team that Comegy threw together....prove me wrong.

Also, I have posted several times where I have not predicted a JSU EAST Championship since 2003.

 

[AAMU Alum]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

TP knows football, that's why.:tup:

Proof^^^ of the belief that there's one born at least every day, if not every minute.

 

[mjaamu83]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

Actually, I don't call 3 bad years in the last 40 too bad.

We are Jackson State. I only have one excuse when it comes to AAMU and that is that you could only beat Bell (like eveyone else) and a team that Comegy threw together....prove me wrong.

Also, I have posted several times where I have not predicted a JSU EAST Championship since 2003.

It's not like we could beat Knute Rockne, he was not coaching for yall. Follow me here in case you missed it: Bell(2.75 seasons) Jones(.25 seasons)Comegy(1.0 seasons).I do recall AAMU besting all three of these bums. We cannot play anyone who is not on the sideline representing your school. Comegy has thrown together another team this year and he will get some more of the same. I don't know if you realize this, he usually comes out on the short end of the deal when any of his teams(past,near past,and future) play AAMU. He may have a mental block or a fear of pictures of bulldogs or whatever. Now big boy loves him some Bama State, but north of B'ham he is SOL. Then again yall is jsu.

 

[Tigerpride]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

It's not like we could beat Knute Rockne, he was not coaching for yall. Follow me here in case you missed it: Bell(2.75 seasons) Jones(.25 seasons)Comegy(1.0 seasons).I do recall AAMU besting all three of these bums. We cannot play anyone who is not on the sideline representing your school. Comegy has thrown together another team this year and he will get some more of the same. I don't know if you realize this, he usually comes out on the short end of the deal when any of his teams(past,near past,and future) play AAMU. He may have a mental block or a fear of pictures of bulldogs or whatever. Now big boy loves him some Bama State, but north of B'ham he is SOL. Then again yall is jsu.

I give you props for beating Tuskegee but JSU is NOT Tuskegee.

Your last sentence says we are JSU...that is the important part of your post. Also, I give you props for taking advangage of our hiring mistake but just admit that is the only way you could have won.

 

[Normal1875]

your not making any sense. no one held a gun to your head and told you to hire James Bell...just like Comegy!

u just like to throw isht out there! none of it makes sense...its so easy to make "excuses" and call things "mistakes" when you realize the coaches you hire aint bout nothing lol...

 

[Tigerpride]

your not making any sense. no one held a gun to your head and told you to hire James Bell...just like Comegy!

u just like to throw isht out there! none of it makes sense...its so easy to make "excuses" and call things "mistakes" when you realize the coaches you hire aint bout nothing lol...

...and at the end of the day, you STILL only beat Bell. JSU was not concerned with Hughes beating SU when they were 6-5 and 7-4. We expect to win those games. At the end of the season, we only look for quality wins. Who did we beat that was worth something. Trust me, you would never hear TP braggin on beating a 2-9 AAMU is we can't beat them when they are better than that.

 

[Mr. Tiger]

your not making any sense. no one held a gun to your head and told you to hire James Bell...just like Comegy!

u just like to throw isht out there! none of it makes sense...its so easy to make "excuses" and call things "mistakes" when you realize the coaches you hire aint bout nothing lol...

James Bell wasn't the selection of the alumni and football fans of Jackson State University. He was the AD's choice and that AD paid the price for ignoring the fans and alumni. Most fans had never even heard of Bell and wondered why would the AD selected him. Once he was hired fans supported him until he proved unworthy of that support. He proved unworthy for me early in year one. :shame:

 

[mjaamu83]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

I give you props for beating Tuskegee but JSU is NOT Tuskegee.

Your last sentence says we are JSU...that is the important part of your post. Also, I give you props for taking advangage of our hiring mistake but just admit that is the only way you could have won.

I do not deal with speculation,soothsaying or any extrapolation when it comes to the past.If the Germans had more gasoline during World War two the world would be different.They did not, what happened, happened. I was not stating that you were Tuskegee. Comegy has a AAMU complex. He could be coaching at Auburn this year and if he had to play AAMU there is a good chance he would lose. It is not where he coaches, it is who he is coaching against. I do understand what you are saying about AAMU not being a good football team last year in the larger picture of the FCS(Furman,App State...) but we continually are improving and wish you all would do the same. If and when you all put a better product on the field and we beat you, then we will be able to judge how far we have come as a program, as will you. Making history is so much more fun than living in the past.

 

[Tigerpride]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

I do not deal with speculation,soothsaying or any extrapolation when it comes to the past.If the Germans had more gasoline during World War two the world would be different.They did not, what happened, happened. I was not stating that you were Tuskegee. Comegy has a AAMU complex. He could be coaching at Auburn this year and if he had to play AAMU there is a good chance he would lose. It is not where he coaches, it is who he is coaching against. I do understand what you are saying about AAMU not being a good football team last year in the larger picture of the FCS(Furman,App State...) but we continually are improving and wish you all would do the same. If and when you all put a better product on the field and we beat you, then we will be able to judge how far we have come as a program, as will you. Making history is so much more fun than living in the past.

You don't have enough evidence to back that up. You played him from 1996-1999 ( I think) and you were 1-3 against him. Two of those years, you were 1-AA or transitional 1-AA. Then you played him this year when you were the HEAVILY favored team...returning 17 starters, all of your coaches, etc....whereas Comegy only had 50 players in the Spring and had to install a system and bring in about 30 new people in a matter of months. Now, do I find it surprising that he lost to you 54-0? Yes but again, that was at TU. Last year, you beat him 35 to 21 with a worse team than he had at TU. This year is the year to see how Comegy (the JSU version) does vs AAMU.

 

[Tigerpride]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

but we continually are improving .

This is where a lot of people disagree....and that is the point that AAMU people are missing.

As long as you all are happy.

 

[Mike]

James Bell wasn't the selection of the alumni and football fans of Jackson State University. He was the AD's choice and that AD paid the price for ignoring the fans and alumni. Most fans had never even heard of Bell and wondered why would the AD selected him. Once he was hired fans supported him until he proved unworthy of that support. He proved unworthy for me early in year one. :shame:

Who gives a rats arse? In the record books it don't say these teams beat jsu because of James Bell. It says that jsu lost. PERIOD!

Dayum yall shole do know how to make excuses. :smh:

 

[Tigerpride]

Who gives a rats arse? In the record books it don't say these teams beat jsu because of James Bell. It says that jsu lost. PERIOD!

Dayum yall shole do know how to make excuses. :smh:

Yep, that is what it says but YOU know that you owe James Bell a thank you card. You could not beat Kent or any good passing teams. I doubt that you would have been able to beat Kent with Manning, Torrey Ross, Chris Jones, ect catching bombs from Kent. Kent limped out in the 4th quarter and threw two TD's against you on one leg....LOL

Regardless, JSU made our mistakes and we paid for them with losses. However we KNOW deep down that things got off track solely because of who the coach was. We corrected that. You have way more than that to fix in Huntsville.

 

[mjaamu83]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

This is where a lot of people disagree....and that is the point that AAMU people are missing.

As long as you all are happy.

People have been nay saying us since we joined this conference but we have beaten every team in the conference since we have been a member.The point you are not willing to admit is we have a winning program. No matter what excuse you make or what you say, the numbers don't lie. AAMU just like other schools in the conference have to play each other using the players and coaches we have on staff currently. We can't play your 1975 chapionship team this is not playstation or a future meets past series on ESPN. It is year to year, and we have been winning against everyone not just against your school. We have had one losing season since joining this conference,our number of wins have increased for the most part each year. So, no matter how biased your observation the numbers say something different as matter of fact they say the opposite.I'm pleased with our program and the direction we are headed. Are you happy with jsu is the $64.00 question? Making history is so much more fun than living in the past.

 

[Tigerpride]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

People have been nay saying us since we joined this conference but we have beaten every team in the conference since we have been a member.The point you are not willing to admit is we have a winning program no matter what excuse you make or what you say, the numbers don't lie. AAMU just like other schools in the conference have to play each other using the teams andcoaches we have on staff currently. We can't play your 1975 chapionship team this is not playstation or a future meets past series on ESPN. It is year to year, and we have been winning against everyone not just against your school. We have had one losing season since joining this conference,our number of wins have increased for the most part each year. So, no matter how biased your observation the numbers say something different as matter of fact they say the opposite.I'm pleased with our program and the direction we are headed. Are you happy with jsu is the $64.00 question?

1.) I agree with all that you posted but none of it is the point.

2.) I am not happy with not winning championships but I am happy for the direction of my program.

 

[mjaamu83]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

1.) I agree with all that you posted but none of it is the point.

2.) I am not happy with not winning championships but I am happy for the direction of my program.

Well I will go out on a limb and say the point is you and who ever else consider our program to be stagnant. The sad part of that opinion is you have data(wins,losses,championship) that is contrary to the opinion.Would that not make the opinion worthless? Is there some top secret criteria that is being used to formulate the opion? If so, please share it.Personally, I think the opinion is based on the fact that one program use to be and now is no longer and will never be again. Just in case you missed it the following are all dead and burried:The Bear,Knute Rockne,Vince Lombarti,jsu football.

 

[Mr. Tiger]

Who gives a rats arse? In the record books it don't say these teams beat jsu because of James Bell. It says that jsu lost. PERIOD!

Dayum yall shole do know how to make excuses. :smh:

What excuse? I was simply responding to an earlier post that seemed suggest that we, JSU fans and alumni, thought Bell was the right man for the job and would win until he started losing. He was NEVER our choice and I, among others, knew he wouldn't win after year ONE. Jackson State was horrible during his three years as head coach. Thank goodness he's gone.
And you are right the record books will not reflect that.

But back to the topic...I am interested to see how AAMU's defense does against Tennessee State because that TSU offense will probably be better than almost any offense AAMU will face in the conference.

 

[Tigerpride]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

Just in case you missed it the following are all dead and burried:The Bear,Knute Rockne,Vince Lombarti,jsu football.

and you expect someone to really believe that? Every other BCF fans sees it differently. Most only see that you have taken advantage of some poor teams while you yourself have remained about the same...average. Now is it your fault that other teams like JSU got sorry...no. We must give you props for at least remaining decent enough to take advantage of the situation. However, by no means are your teams on par with the rest of our champions. Who knows maybe you all are the first of a number of poor champions.

And yes, you have the wins, loses and A championship but your wins and losses are not impressive. Hughes went 9-3, 7-4, 7-4, and 7-4 and got fired becasue it is more to this than wins and losses. Your championship year was not great. You have a record 3 SWAC losses and you lost to some bottom feeders in a conference that had nothing but a bunch of sorry teams anyway.

 

[XHALE9802]

Re: Four transfers make a quick impact on tnsu defense

Proof^^^ of the belief that there's one born at least every day, if not every minute.

FA SHO!

:emlaugh:

:lol:

:lmao:

 

[Mike]

TP,

Is this going to be a down year for jsu and the SWAC? Please tell us now so we can know that the winner of the 2007 championship game has taken advantage of the SWAC being down because jsu, su, and gram ain't winning.

Dude you still don't understand how stupid your comments are...:shame:

 

[tsutiger]

Thursday, 08/30/07

TSU has painful memories
Coach says many injuries cost Tigers an OVC title

By MIKE ORGAN
Staff Writer


It hurts James Webster to talk about injuries. Especially the ones Tennessee State encountered last season.

It hurts the Tigers coach because he hates to blame injuries for shortcomings.




But if so many of TSU's key players hadn't been hurt, Webster believes the Tigers would have come even closer to winning the Ohio Valley Conference title last year than they did.

If the Tigers avoid injuries this year, then they expect again to be in the hunt for the conference title.

TSU headed into the final game with a shot at the championship, but lost at Eastern Kentucky 20-3 and finished behind UT Martin and Eastern Illinois, which tied for first.

''All that needs to happen for us to contend for the title is for us to stay healthy,'' Webster said. ''It wasn't so much that it was an inordinate amount of injuries last season, but I've never been anywhere where you had so many injuries to key people.''

TSU stars started falling early. First it was starting offensive tackle Avern Alexander in the first series of the first game who was lost for the season with an ankle injury.

In the second game, North Carolina transfer Mike Mason, the team's best receiver, went down with a knee injury.

Late in the year quarterback Antonio Heffner suffered a shoulder injury, which never fully healed.

The list went on and on and included linebacker Kalvin Baker, a transfer from Florida and the leading tackler at the time, who hurt his knee.

''All teams have injuries, I realize that,'' Webster said. ''But it was just the fact that it was to key people for us.''

No let-up

Keeping key players healthy is a priority this year, but Webster won't back off from the heavy demands he places on his team.

''I'll never be easier on a football team; that's not in my vocabulary,'' Webster said. ''All of those guys got hurt in the games; they didn't get hurt in practice. So I'm not worried that it was anything we were doing in practice.''

Not only is Heffner healthy again, he says he is prepared to be the leader the Tigers needed last year.

''Last season I was just out there, and my teammates were depending on me because of what they had heard about me,'' said Heffner, who transferred from South Carolina. ''Now everybody knows what I can do. They expect me to be their leader on and off the field.

''We're more of an experienced team this year, we know what to expect in the OVC, and we believe we can win a championship.''

 

[Tigerpride]

TP,

Is this going to be a down year for jsu and the SWAC? Please tell us now so we can know that the winner of the 2007 championship game has taken advantage of the SWAC being down because jsu, su, and gram ain't winning.

Dude you still don't understand how stupid your comments are...:shame:

Mike, this has nothing to do with JSU, SU, and Grambling as long as some other team steps up. AAMU has yet to step up. Answer this, if this is all about the Big 3 winning, then why was AlaState not considered a weak champion?

Also, you don't know if it is a down year until the END of the year....maybe by midseason. If you understood what a down year is, you would not be asking that question.

 

[Tigerpride]

Thursday, 08/30/07

TSU has painful memories
Coach says many injuries cost Tigers an OVC title

By MIKE ORGAN
Staff Writer


It hurts James Webster to talk about injuries. Especially the ones Tennessee State encountered last season.

It hurts the Tigers coach because he hates to blame injuries for shortcomings.




But if so many of TSU's key players hadn't been hurt, Webster believes the Tigers would have come even closer to winning the Ohio Valley Conference title last year than they did.

If the Tigers avoid injuries this year, then they expect again to be in the hunt for the conference title.

TSU headed into the final game with a shot at the championship, but lost at Eastern Kentucky 20-3 and finished behind UT Martin and Eastern Illinois, which tied for first.

''All that needs to happen for us to contend for the title is for us to stay healthy,'' Webster said. ''It wasn't so much that it was an inordinate amount of injuries last season, but I've never been anywhere where you had so many injuries to key people.''

TSU stars started falling early. First it was starting offensive tackle Avern Alexander in the first series of the first game who was lost for the season with an ankle injury.

In the second game, North Carolina transfer Mike Mason, the team's best receiver, went down with a knee injury.

Late in the year quarterback Antonio Heffner suffered a shoulder injury, which never fully healed.

The list went on and on and included linebacker Kalvin Baker, a transfer from Florida and the leading tackler at the time, who hurt his knee.

''All teams have injuries, I realize that,'' Webster said. ''But it was just the fact that it was to key people for us.''

No let-up

Keeping key players healthy is a priority this year, but Webster won't back off from the heavy demands he places on his team.

''I'll never be easier on a football team; that's not in my vocabulary,'' Webster said. ''All of those guys got hurt in the games; they didn't get hurt in practice. So I'm not worried that it was anything we were doing in practice.''

Not only is Heffner healthy again, he says he is prepared to be the leader the Tigers needed last year.

''Last season I was just out there, and my teammates were depending on me because of what they had heard about me,'' said Heffner, who transferred from South Carolina. ''Now everybody knows what I can do. They expect me to be their leader on and off the field.

''We're more of an experienced team this year, we know what to expect in the OVC, and we believe we can win a championship.''

AAMU, I am going for you guys but you know that if TNState comes with a passing game, yo azz iz grazz.

 

[Blacknbengal]

AAMU, I am going for you guys but you know that if TNState comes with a passing game, yo azz iz grazz.

Dude, that is what I was trying to tell you. Heffner is going to torch their DBs.