Dr H..
Active Member
This is a spin off from the Juanita Bynum topic. I thought it would be better to start this topic, because of J4J comment ?Thinking Outside The Box? Do we have the right to ?Think Outside The Box? as it relates to the Gospel of Christ. We are not talking about Sports Center, Monday Night Football or ESPN. We are talking about your soul being in an Eternal Heaven or Eternal Hell. In the bible there are customs [traditions] and there is doctrine. Do we have the right to ?Think Outside The Box? as it relates to Bible Doctrine?
I can agree with ?Thinking Outside The Box? as it relates to the customs and traditions of the Jews. However, as it relates to Doctrine, you cannot abandon the Doctrine of the Bible. Contained within the Book we call the Bible, is the Doctrine of The Godhead; Mankind; Church; Sin; Salvation; Satan; Angles Bible and Prophecy.
Either you believe that the Holy Spirit gave the Ole Testament as he moved upon men (2 Peter 1:21) and the New Testament was given by the inspiration of God (Hebrews 1: 1; 2 Peter 3:2) or not. There is no gray area, it?s either you trust God or you do not.
ALL Scripture is God breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work (2 Tim. 3.16-17).
Comments
J4J
I don't think he was wrong. I think he is a smart man. There is chauvinism in the body. We just don't accept it because we afraid of thinking outside the box. We've been taught for so long the WRONG thing that we don't see the correct thing if it danced in our faces. Serious. We are stuck!
Dr. H..
J4J
Contrary to what we [mankind] may think ?outside of the box or not or chauvinism or not? We [mankind] did not design the scheme of redemption nor did we [mankind] write the Gospel nor did we create the Heavens, Earth or mankind. Regardless of our opinions it really does not mean anything to God. Not to argue, but thinking ?outside box? is the reason the world is in its present condition. Lets call it what it is ?thinking outside the box? is thinking outside of God?s word, therefore individuals are telling God, God regardless of what you say ?I know what?s best for me and my house. We are going to worship the way our hearts desire? Thinking ?outside of the box? tells the world the is nothing wrong with homosexuality, abortions, adultery, fornication, spousal abuse, that the world is right and God is wrong. Thinking ?outside the box? tells a child to disrespect their parents, a father that?s it?s ok to abandon his family, that it?s ok to gamble away your salary thus allowing your family to do without, it tells the world that it?s ok to worship Satan; trees; the wind. That?s it?s ok to commit suicide, that?s it?s ok to murder someone because of the color of their skin. Thinking ?outside the box? tells the world that ?Christians? are no different than they are.
Because he is a ?smart man? that means absolutely nothing, not one jilt, not one iota to God as it relates to obeying the Gospel. PhD?s, MDV?s, BS, MS, high IQ?s and such like do not register with God. If people were intelligent as they proclaim, then why is the bible the most difficult book for them to understand. God?s is looking for us to be faithful and obedient to the word / gospel of Christ. He maybe smart and I am sure he is, but God know more and is much wiser, therefore God know what?s best for mankind / his creation.
Consider what God told Isaiah 55:8,9
?For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.?
Are you saying that, those that believe in following God?s pattern are wrong because they are not ?thinking outside the box?
Are you saying because the Preacher? say it?s ok and things need to change. That?s it ok to overlook the word of God.
Acts 5:29
?Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.?
Sometimes we fall into Satan?s spiritual trap "Worshiping and obeying the creation and not the Creator"
I can agree with ?Thinking Outside The Box? as it relates to the customs and traditions of the Jews. However, as it relates to Doctrine, you cannot abandon the Doctrine of the Bible. Contained within the Book we call the Bible, is the Doctrine of The Godhead; Mankind; Church; Sin; Salvation; Satan; Angles Bible and Prophecy.
Either you believe that the Holy Spirit gave the Ole Testament as he moved upon men (2 Peter 1:21) and the New Testament was given by the inspiration of God (Hebrews 1: 1; 2 Peter 3:2) or not. There is no gray area, it?s either you trust God or you do not.
ALL Scripture is God breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work (2 Tim. 3.16-17).
Comments
J4J
I don't think he was wrong. I think he is a smart man. There is chauvinism in the body. We just don't accept it because we afraid of thinking outside the box. We've been taught for so long the WRONG thing that we don't see the correct thing if it danced in our faces. Serious. We are stuck!
Dr. H..
J4J
Contrary to what we [mankind] may think ?outside of the box or not or chauvinism or not? We [mankind] did not design the scheme of redemption nor did we [mankind] write the Gospel nor did we create the Heavens, Earth or mankind. Regardless of our opinions it really does not mean anything to God. Not to argue, but thinking ?outside box? is the reason the world is in its present condition. Lets call it what it is ?thinking outside the box? is thinking outside of God?s word, therefore individuals are telling God, God regardless of what you say ?I know what?s best for me and my house. We are going to worship the way our hearts desire? Thinking ?outside of the box? tells the world the is nothing wrong with homosexuality, abortions, adultery, fornication, spousal abuse, that the world is right and God is wrong. Thinking ?outside the box? tells a child to disrespect their parents, a father that?s it?s ok to abandon his family, that it?s ok to gamble away your salary thus allowing your family to do without, it tells the world that it?s ok to worship Satan; trees; the wind. That?s it?s ok to commit suicide, that?s it?s ok to murder someone because of the color of their skin. Thinking ?outside the box? tells the world that ?Christians? are no different than they are.
Because he is a ?smart man? that means absolutely nothing, not one jilt, not one iota to God as it relates to obeying the Gospel. PhD?s, MDV?s, BS, MS, high IQ?s and such like do not register with God. If people were intelligent as they proclaim, then why is the bible the most difficult book for them to understand. God?s is looking for us to be faithful and obedient to the word / gospel of Christ. He maybe smart and I am sure he is, but God know more and is much wiser, therefore God know what?s best for mankind / his creation.
Consider what God told Isaiah 55:8,9
?For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.?
Are you saying that, those that believe in following God?s pattern are wrong because they are not ?thinking outside the box?
Are you saying because the Preacher? say it?s ok and things need to change. That?s it ok to overlook the word of God.
Acts 5:29
?Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.?
Sometimes we fall into Satan?s spiritual trap "Worshiping and obeying the creation and not the Creator"