The view of taking the vaccine or not taking it


My thing is this also folks want me to pay high insurance rates and vote for healthcare for folks who don't work, got diabetes, hypertension, overweight, will not eat right nor exercise to help their situation, but cast folks from society because they don't want to take the shot. You can't get more hypocritical than that.
 



The bottom line for me is financial, I just hope those that don't get the vaccine can handle the financial impact if they do get it and have their financial estate in order in case they get the Coronavirus and die. Intensive care is expensive, even if you have good insurance. If you have a family to support, get your estate in order, don't leave your family holding the bag, be responsible.

Your estate should be in order regardless because tomorrow is not promised, but make sure you do this if you do not take the vaccine.
 
Olde Hornet said:
The bottom line for me is financial, I just hope those that don't get the vaccine can handle the financial impact if they do get it and have their financial estate in order in case they get the Coronavirus and die. Intensive care is expensive, even if you have good insurance. If you have a family to support, get your estate in order, don't leave your family holding the bag, be responsible.

Your estate should be in order regardless because tomorrow is not promised, but make sure you do this if you do not take the vaccine.
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Many have gotten and lived. The shot does not guarantee you will live. Everyone has a date on their life. It doesn't matter how healthy you are or what vaccines you take. Your date has been set. No man knows the hour or time. People have written a death sentence for those who don't take it. Isn't that playing God? If God is the giver and taker of life how can taking or not taking a vaccine save your life? That contradicts that God is the giver and taker of life. It says man has written your death date.
 
CEE DOG said:
Many have gotten and lived. The shot does not guarantee you will live. Everyone has a date on their life. It doesn't matter how healthy you are or what vaccines you take. Your date has been set. No man knows the hour or time. People have written a death sentence for those who don't take it. Isn't that playing God? If God is the giver and taker of life how can taking or not taking a vaccine save your life? That contradicts that God is the giver and taker of life. It says man has written your death date.
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Just in case you missed what I said.

Your estate should be in order regardless because tomorrow is not promised, but make sure you do this if you do not take the vaccine.
 
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Olde Hornet said:

Just in case you missed what I said.

Your estate should be in order regardless because tomorrow is not promised, but make sure you do this if you do not take the vaccine.
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Just in case you missed what I said you aren't God. You don't have the power to dictate life or death. Just make sure you're ready when the death angel knocks on your door step.
 
CEE DOG said:
Just in case you missed what I said you aren't God. You don't have the power to dictate life or death. Just make sure you're ready when the death angel knocks on your door step.
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My point is financial, nothing else. I could care less if you worship a tree, get the shot or not, but be financially responsible.
 
coldsweat said:
Ask yourself this question please! Why is this being pushed in our communities specifically and not anywhere else. Black churches, school and universities in urban areas and health clinics in the hood? Why don't you see these same PWC institutions and churches enforcing the collective idea of group enforcement of taking the vaccine? Something aint right about this and some of us see it while others don't!

To each their own. But don't take away my free will because of your own fear, reliance and overall belief in the system!
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Vaccines are being pushed to everybody because COVID has negatively affected economies in the U.S. and all over the world and elected officials want us to get back to work, school, and spending money. They know the world (at least the U.S.) can't get back to "normal" unless people aren't getting sick and dying and are hesitant to leave the crib.
 
Rated R Superstar said:
Here is the thing. Your decision — whatever it is in this situation — does not only impact you. You can talk about not trusting white people, the government or medical experts. And they have earned the mistrust. But when anyone decides to not mask, social distance or take the vaccine, they’re making livelihood choices for other people (family, friends and strangers). We know the consequences of that. That’s what separates this from most individual decisions that really don’t necessarily impact others. Literally every decision we make regarding our approach to navigating our current conditions with COVID will determine how we all collectively function.
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These folks don't care. i said as much back over the summer & fall when folks kept clubbing & carrying on while posting RIPs on Facebook every week.

The same way some people have outweighed their needs and wants from the safety of themselves and their families, they have outweighed their mistrust over any ability to reason. And they don't care to learn shit either
 
crobin5123 said:
For me, this is a simple decision... 550K people died due to covid. Up to this point, no deaths have been attributed to taking the covid vaccines. Why would I risk dying from covid by not taking the vaccine. This is illogical to me! I got my 2nd dose of Pfizer vaccine on 2/25 and had no side effects.
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This is when the street doctors start telling you how the vaccine is laced with aborted baby DNA and how it'll change your DNA, and how you gotta use your THIRD EYE to overstand that the vaccine is designed to kill black folks after 2 years
 
And by the way... nobody is forcing the shot on anyone. But the choice not to get it will have consequences. Businesses and schools can require it and that anti-vax waiver affidavit bullshit aint gonna fly
 



Hence force.

Pressure can become force. It cannot be denied that the majority of this country is "slow" (I include those who just don't care in this category as well). So when something is constantly pushed on the majority it will eventually concede.
I really do think that a lot of people are waiting until the end of the experiments or trials to make a decision.
 
2kool said:
And by the way... nobody is forcing the shot on anyone. But the choice not to get it will have consequences. Businesses and schools can require it and that anti-vax waiver affidavit bullshit aint gonna fly
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I don't know about the other schools, but A&M is not letting you attend unless you can prove you've had the MMR vaccine at some point in your life.
So if they require a COVID vaccine, you got two choices, get the shot and go to school or don't get the shot and go somewhere else for you education.
 
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Rutgers is the only university that is requiring a coronavirus shot for the fall semester.

It will be interesting to see if other universities match that policy.
 
CEE DOG said:
www.cnbc.com

Mutations could render current Covid vaccines ineffective in a year or less, epidemiologists warn

Mutations of the coronavirus could render current vaccines ineffective within a year, according to a survey of experts.
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mutations only occur when a virus has ample opportunity to replicate. if everyone is vaccinated then the virus can't find a suitable host to replicate and mutations don't occur. With that said they've said this week that the pfizer vaccine is showing it provides robust protection from variants.
 

Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech Vaccines Are Very Effective, Report Says​


The coronavirus vaccines made by Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech are proving highly effective at preventing symptomatic and asymptomatic infections under real-world conditions, federal health researchers reported on Monday.

Consistent with clinical trial data, a two-dose regimen prevented 90 percent of infections by two weeks after the second shot. One dose prevented 80 percent of infections by two weeks after vaccination.

The news arrives even as the nation rapidly broadens eligibility for vaccines, and the average number of daily shots continues to rise. The seven-day average of vaccines administered hit 2.7 million on Sunday, a slight increase over the pace the previous week, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But the virus may be gaining renewed momentum. According to a New York Times database, the seven-day average of new virus cases as of Sunday was 63,000, an increase of more than 16 percent over the past two weeks.

Similar upticks over the summer and winter led to major surges in the spread of disease, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said at a news briefing on Monday.
 
major095 said:
mutations only occur when a virus has ample opportunity to replicate. if everyone is vaccinated then the virus can't find a suitable host to replicate and mutations don't occur. With that said they've said this week that the pfizer vaccine is showing it provides robust protection from variants.
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It was a doctor on the Today show who said that it hasn't been proven you still want transmit or carry the virus with the vaccine. She stated we are getting their because of the science but it's not there yet or proven.
 
CEE DOG said:
It was a doctor on the Today show who said that it hasn't been proven you still want transmit or carry the virus with the vaccine. She stated we are getting their because of the science but it's not there yet or proven.
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You can still potentially be infected with the virus even after immunization. that is true of every vaccine. people still get the flu after the flu shot ... and then blame the shot for getting the flu. lol.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-vaccine-works-against-south-african-n1262710
 
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