The turnaround: Odums at SU & why Stump didn't work out?


Jag-BR said:
Who in the hell said his seat was hot? Swac title in 13, west champs in 14 and a few plays from going in 15. No his seat is nowhere near hot.last year, despite the average year we had, we still were in a position to go back a 3rd straight year. And i remember everyone saying he needed to hire a dc and he did that. Nobody mentioned hot seat just stfu
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It's obvious you didn't pay attention to statements of fellow su-ers last year. That's quite understandable though.
That's why Odoms practically overhauled his entire squad of defensive coaches. His actions clearly said, "better them than him".
 



Journalist said:
So um, during Worm's tenure ... did Jackson State decline or improve?

Southern 2012: 4-7 (Stump fired after 2nd game; Worm coached team to 4-5 record)
Jackson State 2012: 7-5; East Co-champs; lost to Pine Bluff in SCG:

Southern 2013: (Worm's first season as head coach): 9-4; West champs; beat Jackson State in SCG or SWAC title
Jackson State 2013: 8-4; East champs; lost to Southern in SCG; fired Rick Comegy and hired OMJ

Southern 2014: 9-4; West champs; lost to Alcorn in SCG (Austin Howard started as true freshman QB)
Jackson State 2014: (OMJ first season): 5-7

Southern 2015: 6-5
Jackson State: 2015: 3-8; OMJ fired; Tony Hughes brought in

Southern 2016: 2-2; only losses to FBS teams
Jackson State: 2016: 1-3; losses to one FBS team (UNLV); annual ass-kickings at the hands Tennessee State and Grambling (last year from the boycott penalty)


So that mean's Worm is 30-20 to date (.600 winning percentage); two OUTRIGHT division titles; two SCG apperances and a conference championship since he took over...
Jackson State through three coaches to date is 24-27 (0.4705 winning percentage); one OUTRIGHT division title; one backdoor shared division title; and TWO SCG losses....in fact JSU has been a sub.-500 club since beating Pine Bluff in Sept. 2014.
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So JSU is your success barometer? Oh, ok.
 
I really can't believe y'all on here trying to make some sense out of this Jacksonese logic.
 
Journalist said:
Worm still doing better than y'all
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Since folks INSIST on comparing JSU, fact of the matter is all JSU has to do is win the East. Then we'll see what happens after that.
On the other hand, su has to overcome PV, Grambling, Texas Southern and even PB might be a bit problematic.
Now back to Odoms....
 
bluedog said:
And you ACTUALLY think that has something to do with this topic don't you? Smh Lord
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Yes, it does. During the Tulane game, you weren't praising the man called Odoms not one bit.
Two SWAC games later, you've conveniently changed your tune. Let's see what the tune will be after a PV, Grambling or even Texas Southern loss.
 



JayRob said:
Yes, it does. During the Tulane game, you weren't praising the man called Odoms not one bit.
Two SWAC games later, you've conveniently changed your tune. Let's see what the tune will be after a PV, Grambling or even Texas Southern loss.
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The reality that you can't differentiate between criticism of one game and an assessment of a complete body of work is so freaking scary I'm totally at a loss for words. It truly makes me sad and depress. It really really does.
 
and did I mentioned the Grambling yearly debacle??? And I mean every year and not every other year.
 
bluedog said:
The reality that you can't differentiate the difference between criticism of one game and an assessment of a complete body of work is so freaking scary I'm totally at a loss for words. It truly makes me sad and depress. It really really does.
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He never mentions that 63-13 loss vs UNLV though
 
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