The simple Bastard from the Cubs game last night...


but Ice Man,
They had got so close though.

being up 3-1, with the last 2 games at home and your best 2 pitchers on the mound......

it's _ _ _

and now that poor guy has to live with being blamed for it.

:( :(
 
Originally posted by Fiyah
I have to disagree that it was his fault.
What about the error that Alex Gonzalez made on a sure double play ball to end the inning.
What about the wild pitch that was thrown to move Pierre to 3rd base and walk the batter. If the batter was smart he should have taken off running fast and could have gotten to 2nd base on that ball.
What about Dusty Baker leaving Prior in to pitch more that inning when you could see he was running out of steam on pitch 100. He was up over 120 pitches before he was pulled.

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There was 3 fans that reached up for the ball and even if Alou would have caught it, there was a runner on base and he couldn't throw it in the stands cause that runner would have tagged up and scored.


Why did Dusty Baker waste a relief pitcher just to give a batter a intentional walk? the previous pitcher could have thrown 4 balls.
And like someone else said, the Cubs was still up 3-0. I was listening on the radio on my way to work, I stop to go into Walgreens and when I get back in my truck I hear the announcer talking about after 7 the Marlins on up to bat. I was initially thinking he was talking about after 7 innings, come to hear he was talking about after 7 runs scored.

I hate that they are going to blame that man for the lost and it was a total team effort from manager on down that lost that game.

Sorry Fiyah, I gotta disagree with ya on this one. I feel bad for ole' boy just like everyone else that isn't a Cub fan but what you had was plain and simple. If he doesn't interfere with the catch, you have two outs in that inning and one less runner on base. His interference changed the whole complexion of that inning:

*Prior was pitching to one of the toughest hitters in baseball, Luis Castillo. The interference occurred on the 8th pitch Prior had thrown to Castillo. Therefore, you can't blame Prior. Castillo rarely ever strikes out and he stretched the count as far as it needed to go as that interference caused a 9th pitch to have to happen.

*The 9th pitch (wild pitch) caused the runner from second to move to third. Again the 9th pitch shouldn't have even had to happen. It put runners on the corner as Pierre (from Alexandria, LA) advanced to third and Castillo walked.

*The error committed by Gonzalez. Again youre looking at the complexion or situation of the inning changing because of the interference. If there were two outs, would Gonzalez have even made the error? It was obvious, he was thinking double play when he made that error. If it were two outs, like it should have been, Gonzalez could have taken his time and made a throw to first to get Cabrera out and end the inning.

Like I said, I feel bad for ole' boy but it was definitely his fault as to why this debacle occurred regardless of the error or whatever else happened after that. But I'm not mad at him, my Marlins won.
 



what is the complaining for...just last year nobody cared about baseball and now they even got me watching...SELIG is having a field day! this is more drama than the tie allstar game! and i did wanna see a NY/CHI world series! now people know how houstonians felt when the BILLS came back on the Oilers...and the good times when the Rockets came back and won..its all apart of the game!
 
Originally posted by Bandmaniac
now people know how houstonians felt when the BILLS came back on the Oilers...and the good times when the Rockets came back and won..its all apart of the game!

Hey man no offense, but you kinda letin' it be known that you kinda clueless when it come s to your sports history. Oilers lost vs. Bills in '93 or no world series win since 1908. There is no comparison.
 
I think he was more refering to "Come Back Wins"
The Bills had a big time come back win against the Oilers and when The Rockets came back on 3 different teams to win the championships.
 
That may be true, but, "YOU DON"T LOSE WHEN YOU ARE UP 3-1 WITH HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE WITH MARK PRIOR AND KERRY WOODS!!!! IT JUST DON'T HAPPEN!!!!"
 
Originally posted by northern tiger
That may be true, but, "YOU DON"T LOSE WHEN YOU ARE UP 3-1 WITH HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE WITH MARK PRIOR AND KERRY WOODS!!!! IT JUST DON'T HAPPEN!!!!"

It did....didn't it. What the Cubs should have done was pitched Kerry Woods in relief of Prior in game six. I need six out to get to the World Series. I'm going with my best pitcher regardless if he's scheduled to pitch the next day.
 
I'm chalking this up to "its the Marlins time."

First Jose Cruz, Jr. drops a sure out (would have been the first out in the ninth and the other two outs would have occurred before the Marlins scored enough runs, and thus, giving the Gaints the win) in the first series, then Gonzales, the fan, Dusty Baker not pulling the pitcher, or whoever one wants to blame in the Cubs series.

It's just their time.

Regards.
 
Here's the one thing that I'm upset with Dusty Baker about in game 7.
I could see from the first inning that Kerry Wood didn't have his usual stuff. I would have been keep an eye on him just in case we got the lead. When they did take the lead, I would have been looking at him more closely then. This is game 7 of the NLDS! Either you win or go home and I'm playing to win!! Around the 5th or 6th inning, I would have had one of my previous starters warmed up and ready to go in. I would have put in either Matt Clement, Carlos Zambrano, or even Mark Prior!! I'm not going to turn this over to the relief pitchers. I'm putting my starters on in relief. If we win, I'll worry about resetting the rotation then.
When the pennant is on the line, you have to pull out all stops. Everybody in the bullpen is available. Starters, relief, and closers. Dusty should have had one of the starters warming up for a relief effort.

That's the only thing that I'm upset with Dusty about. You have to use your best resources when your back's agains the wall. I think the Yankees had Mussina pitching in relief of Roger Clemens in game 7 of the ALCS. That's an example of doing what you have to do to advance. That's probably why the Yankees have been to and won the Series so much.
 
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