The Democrats suck..
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ROYAL BLUE
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CEE, surely you know the difference between stealing one or two times compare to stealing everyday. Our government steals money everyday by passing BS tax laws that Americans "DID NOT" ask or vote on to approve or disapprove.............For example, in Jackson,Ms our local government informed the citizens that our public school needed $150 million in improvements........and our local government officials "ASKED" the citizens of Jackson to vote if they approve of raising our property taxes to pay for the improvements. I, along with other citizens voted yes on rainsing our taxes, although my kids have "NEVER" been enrolled in JPS. This was the perfect example as to how the government should deal with the people. Let the people decide what they want and don't want as a whole on major issues. Healthcare, drilling for oil on and offshore, education funding, and etc., should have been voted on by the people. Let the people decide!
jsupop33
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That formula would still have you drinking at colored waterfountains, imo..
ROYAL BLUE
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No it won't. It was the government that validated those stupid laws, not the people. The people did not vote on the segregated issues so it's unfair to say colored folks would be drinking at colored water fountains, if the people had voted.
Again, I say let the people decide and we would only have ourselves to blame if things go sour. That's why America was set up the way it is becasue the people decide how they choose to live........not government.
.....not using this formula is unconstitutional and has made every American a slave to foreign nations.
Proverbs 22:7 The rich rules over the poor, And the borrower is slave to the lender
ROYAL BLUE
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Bond Progress Timeline
In November 2006, the JPS bond referendum passed with over 80% of the vote. This documented overwhelming support for the work needed for our facilities. This page is dedicated to the citizens of Jackson and other JPS supporters to keep them abreast of the work occurring in our district related to the bond projects. http://www.jackson.k12.ms.us/content.aspx?url=/page/bondtimeline
Jackson Bond Projects Yield New Schools
JACKSON, Miss. -- School leaders in Jackson said $150 million in bonds approved by taxpayers in 2006 is nearly all spent.
http://www.wapt.com/money/21768355/detail.html
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ToPdOg
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Realistically, do you think the church can raise that much money to pay for public education on top of it's normal operational costs?
ROYAL BLUE
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Yes, without question or second thought!
2 Corinthians 9:8 (Amplified Bible) And God is able to make all grace (every favor and [a]earthly blessing) come to you in abundance, so that you may always and under all circumstances and whatever the need be self-sufficient [possessing enough to require no aid or support and furnished in abundance for every good work and charitable donation].
2 Corinthians 9:8 (New Living Translation) And God will generously provide all you need. Then you will always have everything you need and plenty left over to share with others.
2 Corinthians 9:8 (Contemporary English Version) God can bless you with everything you need, and you will always have more than enough to do all kinds of good things for others.
2 Corinthians 9:8 (New King James Version) And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.
Dr H..
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RB
Question: When did you move to TN
If what you are saying is true, why haven't the church done so. There are very few Church operated schools, with the exception of the Catholic Schools.
What church in Nashville TN can raise 1-2 Billion Dollars to run a K - 12 Educational System. Apparently you are "Lost In Space" as it relates to the cost of an education.
Lets say a church was taking up 15K a Sunday over a period of one year, the income will be 780K is that enough for maintenance and upkeep; insurance; salaries and the other intangables of operating a school system. A school bus cost 12K plus, have you forgotten about the children that are disabled.
It cost $6,996 just to send a child to Goodpasture, in Nashville. It cost $7,617.00 annually to educate one student (2006 Estimates). looking at the number of childern at the church I attend, we could not provide an education them.
Here again you are not thinking!
That sound like one of your other topics, the churches is responsible for providing health care.
Question: When did you move to TN
If what you are saying is true, why haven't the church done so. There are very few Church operated schools, with the exception of the Catholic Schools.
What church in Nashville TN can raise 1-2 Billion Dollars to run a K - 12 Educational System. Apparently you are "Lost In Space" as it relates to the cost of an education.
Lets say a church was taking up 15K a Sunday over a period of one year, the income will be 780K is that enough for maintenance and upkeep; insurance; salaries and the other intangables of operating a school system. A school bus cost 12K plus, have you forgotten about the children that are disabled.
It cost $6,996 just to send a child to Goodpasture, in Nashville. It cost $7,617.00 annually to educate one student (2006 Estimates). looking at the number of childern at the church I attend, we could not provide an education them.
Here again you are not thinking!
That sound like one of your other topics, the churches is responsible for providing health care.
ROYAL BLUE
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My wife moved to Nashville May 2006, and I joined her December 28 2006. In 2008 I voted absentee for the State of Mississippi during the presidential elections. I have never voted in TN, however my wife votes in TN.
Where is your faith?
Let me take this slow whereby you can comprehend with no problem. The money the government is stealing from taxpayers in the form of income tax which is "UNCONSTITUTIONAL", would be given to the church in tithes and offerings......not by force. If we get rid of the illegal income tax by taxpayer vote, the funds will be available for the taxpayers to decide how they will spend/educate the children.......not government. If the church is short, then that's were the preachers step in, inform the people what we need........and just like always, Christians step up and provide by the grace of God.
2 Corinthians 9:8 (Amplified Bible) And God is able to make all grace (every favor and [a]earthly blessing) come to you in abundance, so that you may always and under all circumstances and whatever the need be self-sufficient [possessing enough to require no aid or support and furnished in abundance for every good work and charitable donation].
Taxpayers would have no problem giving 10% of their check to the church vs 35% of their check to the government. If the government were to "ASK" the taxpayers do they want the church to provide a Christian public education, or a government education; I can bet you a steak dinner the people will overwhelmingly vote to give their children a Christian education through the church........not government. Would it cost $1-2billion for the church to educate the people? No! Most parents would be dropping their kids off to school, paying for their kids breakfast and lunch, school materials and etc. Parents who can't afford to pay for their kids will be sponsored by fellow Christians, or a special Christian education fund for the less fortunate to provide what's necessary. In other words, God will take care of the children because not only do the kids learn how to be a better student, but they learn how to be a better Christian..........Daily. Those young tender minds will be developed and brought up in righteousness and discipline.......and yes azzes will be tore up if they clown at school. They won't be wearing pants hanging off they azz, and all that stupid stuff they do in public schools.
What's my point? God is able! When I ask my child what they learn in school, not only will they tell me about academics, but they will also tell me what they learned about God/Christ.......Daily. Proverbs 3:6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.
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ROYAL BLUE
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DH, this is for you..........
Remove Christian children from government schools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8dSSc7DLQA
Christian Teacher Core Values
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u22LSAGQVpk&feature=related
Court orders Christian child into government education
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3CJ3ZFBTTw
Remove Christian children from government schools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8dSSc7DLQA
Christian Teacher Core Values
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u22LSAGQVpk&feature=related
Court orders Christian child into government education
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3CJ3ZFBTTw
Dr H..
Active Member
RB
You know my opinion of YouTube -
Southern Baptist out of all groups of individuals? I really love those "sinless" individuals, they are so Heavenly bound, to they are no earthly good.
So public schools are teaching there is nothing wrong with same sex marriages. That's in California, have you ever heard of that particular subject being taught in any TN Schools.
Dude give me a break, why do you depend on YouTube for all your answers. Have you ever had an original thought. Anyone can manke a video and place it on YT. If people want their children to be home, private if public school - they have a right to do so.
Were were your children educated?
What is you age?
Ok, you posted scriptures, but you did not answer my question. In fact I have asked several questions you failed to answer. In a previous topic, you mentioned that you have a sick child that's being treated at VANDY - How long has he been ill and how is his health.
You know my opinion of YouTube -
Southern Baptist out of all groups of individuals? I really love those "sinless" individuals, they are so Heavenly bound, to they are no earthly good.
So public schools are teaching there is nothing wrong with same sex marriages. That's in California, have you ever heard of that particular subject being taught in any TN Schools.
Dude give me a break, why do you depend on YouTube for all your answers. Have you ever had an original thought. Anyone can manke a video and place it on YT. If people want their children to be home, private if public school - they have a right to do so.
Were were your children educated?
What is you age?
Ok, you posted scriptures, but you did not answer my question. In fact I have asked several questions you failed to answer. In a previous topic, you mentioned that you have a sick child that's being treated at VANDY - How long has he been ill and how is his health.
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ROYAL BLUE
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The point of the public school system is that our kids are being brainwashed with junk taught in the public schools.......that's fact. My children would be better served in a Christian public school. Again, let the taxpayers vote on where they would prefer their kids and grandchildren to be educated. I guarantee you a steak dinner the majority of taxpayers would vote to have their children educated in a Christian public school. Again, let the people decide what's best for their kids and relatives. If the majority of taxpayers agree our tax dollars for education should go to the church, then so be it because the people have spoken and voted on the issue.
Who cares where the information come from as long as it's a fact? I post those videos because they are indisputable. It's better for people to see/hear it with their own eyes/ears instead of hearing by word of mouth......and not seeing/hearing it with your own eyes/ears; it's called technology DH.
My children were educated at New Hope Baptist Christian school(MS), Radnor Baptist Christian school(TN), and Lighthouse Christian School(TN). New Hope is the church I grew up in as a young lad living in Jackson. My children would still be there had it not been for my wife attending Vanderbilt.
I'm 31.
My child has been ill since birth. Before my son was born, the doctor mentioned to my wife that we may want to consider abortion because my son may not live to see 5. When my wife informed me of this, I gave the doctor an ear full and he advised that we see another doctor. He will be 9 in march and he's doing great. God is able!
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ROYAL BLUE
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DH, this is New Hope's mission for the kids. I will also post the school link as well.
Our Mission:
Our mission is to prepare students for life as Christian role models and leaders who choose character before career, wisdom before scholarship, and service before self.
Our Belief:
We believe that each child is an image bearer of God created to glorify Him in all facets of life. The NHCES staff is committed to providing a Christian world and life view emphasizing God's Love, Truth, Grace and Promises to ensure that the Great Commission is fulfilled.
The Schools' Goals Are:
* To encourage every child to begin and develop a relationship with God the the Father, through Jesus Christ.
* To provide a clear model of the biblical Christian life by our leadership and staff.
* To teach all subjects as part of an integrated whole, with the scriptures at the center.
* To maintain high academic standards for each student, with the expectation that all can succeed.
* To provide an orderly atmosphere conducive to learning and christian fellowship.
Student expectations:
The administrations, teachers and staff expect all students to:
* Be respectfully and obedient at all times.
* Be punctual, prepared and eager to learn.
* Follow all school rules.
* Grow in Christ.
http://www.newhope-christianschool.org/
Our Mission:
Our mission is to prepare students for life as Christian role models and leaders who choose character before career, wisdom before scholarship, and service before self.
Our Belief:
We believe that each child is an image bearer of God created to glorify Him in all facets of life. The NHCES staff is committed to providing a Christian world and life view emphasizing God's Love, Truth, Grace and Promises to ensure that the Great Commission is fulfilled.
The Schools' Goals Are:
* To encourage every child to begin and develop a relationship with God the the Father, through Jesus Christ.
* To provide a clear model of the biblical Christian life by our leadership and staff.
* To teach all subjects as part of an integrated whole, with the scriptures at the center.
* To maintain high academic standards for each student, with the expectation that all can succeed.
* To provide an orderly atmosphere conducive to learning and christian fellowship.
Student expectations:
The administrations, teachers and staff expect all students to:
* Be respectfully and obedient at all times.
* Be punctual, prepared and eager to learn.
* Follow all school rules.
* Grow in Christ.
http://www.newhope-christianschool.org/
ROYAL BLUE
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DH, this is a youtube video of my pastor of New Hope Baptist in Jackson,MS. Preacing/ Lecturing @ Baptist General State Congress of IL 8/8/07
Dr. Jerry Young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84xO2iiF8w
Dr. Jerry Young Closing.mpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBcfdBza3w4&feature=related
Pastor Jerry Young
Headmaster & Founder
Education for Life
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”. Proverbs 1: 7
The purpose of New Hope Christian School is to assist Christian parents in fulfilling their God-given responsibility to educate and train their children by providing them with a God-centered Christ-honoring education. We provide for the students a comprehensive course of study which will develop the total child: spiritually, intellectually, physically, socially and emotionally.
Because we believe that each child is an image bearer of God and is therefore endowed by God with immeasurable potential, NHCS is committed to instilling within each child a Christian world and life view which will equip the child for life here on earth and for eternity. The children can then be both salt and light as they interact within society.
Committed to God and to the students we serve, each day is begun with devotion and Bible class. Quality academic instruction which integrates faith and learning is provided daily. The faculty and administrator carry out their tasks in a climate which promotes Christian values throughout the environment of the school.
http://www.newhope-christianschool.org/about.html
Dr. Jerry Young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84xO2iiF8w
Dr. Jerry Young Closing.mpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBcfdBza3w4&feature=related
Pastor Jerry Young
Headmaster & Founder
Education for Life
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”. Proverbs 1: 7
The purpose of New Hope Christian School is to assist Christian parents in fulfilling their God-given responsibility to educate and train their children by providing them with a God-centered Christ-honoring education. We provide for the students a comprehensive course of study which will develop the total child: spiritually, intellectually, physically, socially and emotionally.
Because we believe that each child is an image bearer of God and is therefore endowed by God with immeasurable potential, NHCS is committed to instilling within each child a Christian world and life view which will equip the child for life here on earth and for eternity. The children can then be both salt and light as they interact within society.
Committed to God and to the students we serve, each day is begun with devotion and Bible class. Quality academic instruction which integrates faith and learning is provided daily. The faculty and administrator carry out their tasks in a climate which promotes Christian values throughout the environment of the school.
http://www.newhope-christianschool.org/about.html
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Dr H..
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RB
The last time I checked, parents have a right to send there children, grand children and great grandchildren to any school they want. However, realistically speaking a lot of people are mis-lead by the title "Christian School" everything in the schools does not have a Christian background. And how many folks can afford to sent their childern to:
Good Pasture, David Liscomb or other private school or "Christian Schools" How many churchas can afford to open their own school?
I guarantee you a steak dinner the majority of taxpayers would vote to have their children educated in a Christian public school
What is a Christian Public School, name one in the area we live.
What school did your children attend?
I told you I pay very little attention to YT or all these preachers that decide to be on YT.
The last time I checked, parents have a right to send there children, grand children and great grandchildren to any school they want. However, realistically speaking a lot of people are mis-lead by the title "Christian School" everything in the schools does not have a Christian background. And how many folks can afford to sent their childern to:
Good Pasture, David Liscomb or other private school or "Christian Schools" How many churchas can afford to open their own school?
I guarantee you a steak dinner the majority of taxpayers would vote to have their children educated in a Christian public school
What is a Christian Public School, name one in the area we live.
What school did your children attend?
I told you I pay very little attention to YT or all these preachers that decide to be on YT.
JSU*Toi
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rove that...I am glad your son is well... I agree with you on one thing God is very able!
ROYAL BLUE
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Democrats Officially Kill Successful DC Voucher Program
This is big government at its finest hour. The Democrats have officially killed a successful private school voucher program banishing more than 3,300 low-income children back to the DC schools they so desperately wanted to escape. The Heartland Institute reports:
The leaders of D.C.’s school choice movement, Kevin P. Chavous (former D.C. Councilman) and Virginia Walden Ford (executive director of D.C. Parents for School Choice), today issued the following statement:
http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/31/democrats-officially-kill-successful-dc-voucher-program/
JSU*Toi
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Before you start posting right wing blogs please get the background information.
That private school voucher program was taken much needed funds from the public school system. The DC voucher program was only helping about 1700 students at a cost of 13million dollars a year.
Are we suppose to condemn 80% of the public school students to take care of 20%? Why not try to improve the whole system instead of helping a select few?
You also didn't answer my question below...
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Originally Posted by ROYAL BLUE
The point of the public school system is that our kids are being brainwashed with junk taught in the public schools.......that's fact.
Prove that..
Dr H..
Active Member
RB
You continue to talk about the church being responsible for this and that, you have not proven that churches can collect the billions it takes to operate a school or health systems and faith has nothing to do with it.
I guess you will be saying next that the churches are responsible for Public Works? What is the government’s role in society?
God does not disapprove of the governments role of educating or providing health care for the citizens of the country?
You continue to talk about the church being responsible for this and that, you have not proven that churches can collect the billions it takes to operate a school or health systems and faith has nothing to do with it.
I guess you will be saying next that the churches are responsible for Public Works? What is the government’s role in society?
God does not disapprove of the governments role of educating or providing health care for the citizens of the country?
skyvolt2000
Well-Known Member
Please define what this junk is so we that work in the school can correct it.
The public school system is being ruined by thsi mindset that all kids shoudl go to a college or that EVERY child is required an education.
Not every child wants to attend college-some want to learn vocational skills. No Child Left Behind KILLED that along with others.
The 80% that wants to run to private schools are the ones that are falt out SICK and TIRED of being held hostage by the 20% that don't care about an education.
Where private schools fail to realize it that you can RUN to those schools all you like. However remember this:
1) You still pay TAXES to public schools
2) You still need to VOTE on public school issues
3) You still need to be aware of what is going on in your public schools.
Our public schools are failing because the tax paying public refuses to get behind them. They go with my kid isn't there so why should I care mind set.
Look at what my school district is going through.
skyvolt2000
Well-Known Member
The church would have to have a vest interest in the school.
In fact a ton of things would have to be in place.
1) staff turnover would have to be limited. The high school I graduated from-staff turnvoer was never a factor. I knew all the teachers even the oens I didn't have.
2) student body size. If I know I'm going to have 700 kids a year and maybe lose or gain 4-5 a semester. I can figure out some of the costs. What's a better learning enviroment-15 to a class or 15-40 in a class at any given time?
3) school supplies-if a kid BREAKS it, they PAY for it. Too many times kids break stuff and never have to pay for it for whatever reason (mainly running to school to school)
4) Kids-you have to have the resources to deal with WHATEVER kid comes in that door. What kills our high schools in DISD is that too many kids have issues that were not dealt with in elementary or middle school.
That is also why so may private schools go K-12.
5) Rules-whatever your rules are-ENFORCE THEM-that 20% that don't care will sniff out a school where the rules are not enforced.
6) the student body-75-90% of the kids better be MY church members kids or kids in the neighborhood. The community will be more active in the school if the kids are thier own.
7) SPORTS can not control your school. I'll eave it at that
Bane
The Vilian
Exactly. The whole point of these vouchers programs is to funnel public money to private schools. That's why I'm totally against it.
ROYAL BLUE
New Member
:lecture
I am glad your son is well... I agree with you on one thing God is very able!
Thanks!
US Public Schools Teaching Children Pro-Islamic Propaganda
By Marc Sheppard
Christianity was started by a young Palestinian named Jesus and the 9/11 murderers were not Islamic Fundamentalists but simply a generic "teams of terrorists." That's the caliber of politically corrected crap many of our children are being taught in American public schools -- and it's past time all parents took serious notice.
A five year study by Gary Tobin and Dennis Ybarra of the Institute for Jewish and Community Research cites hundreds of such errors and distortions found in "28 of the most widely used social studies and history textbooks in the United States." Their book, The Trouble with Textbooks: Distorting History and Religion, examines the pro-Islamic disinformation they uncovered, including the assertion that Jesus was a Palestinian, not a Jew. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/us_public_schools_teaching_chi_1.html
ROYAL BLUE
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'Five pillars of Islam' taught in public school
Another school has been "teaching" Islam by having students study and learn Muslim prayers and dress as Muslims, and a lawyer who argued a previous dispute over this issue to the U.S. Supreme Court said such methodologies wouldn't "last 10 seconds" if it were Christianity being taught.
"Would it have been 'just cultural education' if students were in simulated baptisms, wearing a crucifix, having taken the name of St. John and with praise banners saying 'Praise be to Jesus Christ' on classroom walls?" asked Edward White III, of the Thomas More Law Center. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52335
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