Texas Southern waxes Jackson State at Shreveport BOTB


MAAN!!!! what's the deal with this here? I thought this thread was about somebody giving TxSU their props.? so why does it seem that most of the people not doing so? We're talking about the band and what happened last weekend. Not the dancers, or the years 1985-1993, and no not PVU! I wasn't there so I would like to hear what people have to say about what really happened at the BOTB. the truth and only the truth. Can ya dig that?
fa sho...
J.Con.(who?)where my mic...... :redhot:
 
s phi s said:
Let me venture to say this, and it is not directed at ANYONE in particular.

After you have seen/heard a program for years, you come in EXPECTING something. When they don't deliver what you expect (regardless of if it was good or bad), you will have something to say.

Example: The first time I saw SU in person was in 1994 at Robertson Stadium. When they played, I was amazed at the type of sound they put out, and I will never forget it. I saw them several times over the next few years. Then I saw them in Rice Stadium in 97. It wasn't quite the same as when I saw them in 94. 98 didn't have quite the same effect as 97. 2000 didn't quite hit me like 98.

WHY???? Because nothing will compare to when you FIRST became a fan. You start looking for things that you EXPECT to be there, and get tunnel vision while looking for those things.

In 94, SU's trumpets were monsters. When I saw them in 97, I was LISTENING for the trumpets, cuz that's what I remembered. I ALMOST looked past the fact that the B-Tones were tight as hell....

Basically what I'm getting at here is that you have to try to look at every performance like it's your first time seeing them. When you EXPECT something before-hand, you miss what actually happens because you are so busy looking for something that's not there.
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That is an excellent point you made....
But 94 SU trumpets MONSTERS??!?!?!?

That had to be a contract from what you were used to hearing in high school..
I will say overall 97 trumpets had more numbers and a bit more power than 94's trumpet...but I would say 94 trumpets were more intence.....
Then you have to realize 94 band was no where near as powerful as 97 SU band... So again the contrast is a mudda going from a 140 piece 94 SU to a 175 MONSTER SOUND band, where the T-bones, F-horns, and B-tones were more MASSIVE...
Just thought I'd make that point....


But check this out, in light of what the peeps from TxSU is saying....
If you call yourself a top notch program..Whether you do the same thing or what have you.. When you hit the road and get off those buses your program and show should on point.... It really should be any excuses....
That's my main thing, all I am seeing is excuses from JSU side...

Excuses:
We ain't worried about a band like TxSU
We weren't prepared...(Never held water with me)
This ain't even a football game
This is early in the season.....

When you step out them doors for the first time like you said...You supposed to be saying one thing if not anything

WE READY....
 



Dayum J....You have your opinion, and I have mine. 94's trumpets impressed me more than 97's. If you ask me, 94 was a MUCH tighter band than 97, but there were several aspects where 97 was better than 94.

I'm not gonna let this turn into another SU debate. I was strictly making a point.
 
s phi s said:
Dayum J....You have your opinion, and I have mine. 94's trumpets impressed me more than 97's. If you ask me, 94 was a MUCH tighter band than 97, but there were several aspects where 97 was better than 94.

I'm not gonna let this turn into another SU debate. I was strictly making a point.
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WTF!!?!?!!? Lil Boy you always acting like a DIC is stuck in your ARSE!!!


I agree 94 was a tighter band than 97.....

All I said was the contrast is why you noticed the trumpets more in 94!!!!!
WTF is wrong with you dude, you ain't talking to no 304 no!!!!!

Yo arse be "out the dorr wit it" sometimes!!!! Calm your fugging arse down boy...

I ain't LOUDER was better!!!!! He11 YEAH 94 band was much tighter than 97 IMO, and I marched in 97 band....

97 was MUCH MUCH more powerful than 94... 97 may have been the LOUDEST band in the 90's by far because of LOWER BRASS.. where as 94 was the WEAKEST of the 90's.... I stood in front both..... and juke from 94 that crabbed will tell you that...

It don't mean we were better cause we were SERIOUSLY louder...fugg!!!

if you call a typical SU trumpet section of with less than average numbers for a SU trumpet section...
SU average size trumpet section is (38)... 94 was probably the smallest trumpet section ever with (24)...

All I am saying is...
PAY THE FUGG ATTENTION!!!!! FOR YOU TO CALL THAT A MONSTER SECTION, IT HAD TO BE BECAUSE THAT WAS YOUR FIRST TIME HEARING SU.. WHICH IT WAS, CAUSE YOU SAID IT... AND THOSE 24 TRUMPETS DID STICK OUT IN THAT BAND IN 94.... ONLY BECAUSE THE BAND WASN'T the TYPICAL POWERFUL SU BAND!!!!

FUG *****, I AM SORRY YOUR FIRST SU EXPERIENCE WASN'T NEAR THE BEST IT COULD HAVE BEEN.

YOU GOT THAT SHAT BAD NIGQA.. YOU CALL YOURSELF TALKING TO ME LIKE I MARCHED UNDER YOUR ARSE....

YOU RIGHT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN OPINION...
I JUST GAVE YOUR ARSE SOME FUGGING EDUCATION....
YOU WAS STILL IN MIDDLE SCHOOL in 94... *****!!
I'm JUST GIVEN YOUR ARSE SOME EDUCATION FOOL!!!!
 
FUGGG YO OPINION *****>... YO ARSE JUST GETING OUT THE BAND..

I BEEN OUT THE BAND FOR ABOUT 5 YEARS, YOU DON'T KNOW SHAT ABOUT SU.. YOU THINK YOU KNOW...
 
^^^^^ I'll be got dayumed if any comment about SU aint turned into someone having something negative to say :shame:

The point s phi s was making has nothing to do with the bands ACTUAL PERFORMANCE. SU 97 could have made 94 look like Valley but that aint the point. He is gettin at the psychological aspect. If you see a group once a year you are left with an impression that you tend to overhype in your mind and your expectations become even greater for the next season. Even though the band may be even more of a beast the next season to you they may be a let down because in your mind you reached a level of unreasonable expectations.

THE SHAT WAS A FUGGIN EXAMPLE....AINT GOT SHAT TO DO WITH THE BANDS REAL PERFORMACE WHATSOEVER

*now watch this ninja continue to argue with himself about which trumpet section was better*
 
BLAQUE PRINCE said:
^^^^^ I'll be got dayumed if any comment about SU aint turned into someone having something negative to say :shame:

The point s phi s was making has nothing to do with the bands ACTUAL PERFORMANCE. SU 97 could have made 94 look like Valley but that aint the point. He is gettin at the psychological aspect. If you see a group once a year you are left with an impression that you tend to overhype in your mind and your expectations become even greater for the next season. Even though the band may be even more of a beast the next season to you they may be a let down because in your mind you reached a level of unreasonable expectations.

THE SHAT WAS A FUGGIN EXAMPLE....AINT GOT SHAT TO DO WITH THE BANDS REAL PERFORMACE WHATSOEVER

*now watch this ninja continue to argue with himself about which trumpet section was better*
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Man look, I been recognized the point S phi dude was making... I even made that known in my first reply...

He made an example, I mean I have the right to comment on an example...
That lil boy be getting besides himself to much on here..
I know he attended your school and all... But he best to keep his attitude to those that marched under him at "his" school...
I don't play that shat with that boy....


Point blank he made a comment about SOMETHING I know MORE about than HE do.... FACT.... Once again fugg his 8th grade opinion of the first time he saw SU....

I keep it real the first time I posted....That boy really better chill...
 
s phi s said:
Then I saw them in Rice Stadium in 97. It wasn't quite the same as when I saw them in 94. 98 didn't have quite the same effect as 97. 2000 didn't quite hit me like 98.
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Dude....you looked at this right here.....saw decline and felt you had to defend or justify why the the section APPEARED to decline when actual performance had nothing to do with it. Then you continued on :kaioken: dayum near gettin mad at yourself cuz he aint said shat to inflame you to begin with.

You wating pixels tellin a ***** to chill over the got dayum internet.
 
BLAQUE PRINCE said:
Dude....you looked at this right here.....saw decline and felt you had to defend or justify why the the section APPEARED to decline when actual performance had nothing to do with it. Then you continued on :kaioken: dayum near gettin mad at yourself cuz he aint said shat to inflame you to begin with.

You wating pixels tellin a ***** to chill over the got dayum internet.
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Man I commented on that shat like I felt fit...

If you look and see I also addressed this topic....
Like I said he may be from your school and you may see it as he had a right to play with me by getting defence because I addressed something he said...
Who the fugg do he think he is.....
Fugg an internet.. I will say that shat to his FACE...And whom ever think I won't...

Bottom line YOUR BOY need to learn respect.....
You disrespect me in anyway.....Ima take to the next level...And not just on here..If I see you I will say whats on my mind. Like I said that boy better play with those that came in AFTER him like that, if he would have said that shat to my face the way he came off, after I was being COOL... I would have slap the fuc out of your BOY....
Bottom line PV or no PV that ***** test his draws to much...
 
J....Chill dude...It AIN'T that serious. Where did I get beside myself? All I said was I wasn't gonna let this turn into an SU debate. There are plenty of threads like that around here already. Now if this were an SU thread, and I said that, and you made the comments, I wouldn't have said a word. I knew I should have used another example.

I know you know where I was coming from, and what does me being out of the band have to do with the example I gave. Sometimes you want somebody to be saying something so bad that even if they didn't say it, they did.

I don't claim to know everything about SU, nor do I care to, but I do know some, and I know what I hear. Let's just leave it at that. Cuz that reply you made up there was very juvenile.
 
Back to the OTHER topic...

What was said by S phi S is true to a certain point...
Example:

I saw FAMU first time live battling them in 99.. Seen them before in BOTBs....
But first time seeing them RAW was 99.....
It was a good FAMU band.... But 2000 they left an everlasting impression...


Another EXAMPLE:

96 was my first time seeing PV.... They were quite GARBAGE to me...
since PV didn't travel I saw them again in 98... Which was a MUCH better band to ME.....

So I was more impressed with PV the second time around.. Just the same as FAMU....
 
That's EXACTLY the point I was making. When you see a proram the first time it leaves an impression, good or bad, that's gonna stick with you until you see them again.

I disagree that PV was garbage in 96 (at the game you speak of, they really didn't even do enough to make much of a decision). But that's ya opinion, and I can't knock that. After you saw them, you thought they were garbage, and were expecting that same kind of performance when you saw them again.

It's the same for anyone watching any band...When you go IN with expectations, you are almost always disappointed in the performance in some way.
 



s phi s said:
J....Chill dude...It AIN'T that serious. Where did I get beside myself? All I said was I wasn't gonna let this turn into an SU debate. There are plenty of threads like that around here already. Now if this were an SU thread, and I said that, and you made the comments, I wouldn't have said a word. I knew I should have used another example.

I know you know where I was coming from, and what does me being out of the band have to do with the example I gave. Sometimes you want somebody to be saying something so bad that even if they didn't say it, they did.

I don't claim to know everything about SU, nor do I care to, but I do know some, and I know what I hear. Let's just leave it at that. Cuz that reply you made up there was very juvenile.
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You got froggy when you assumed I was trying to make that example a SU debate....


"Dayum J" is getting froggy if you read the content of how you posted it.

You got froggy when you assumed I was trying to CHANGE your opinion.

You got froggy when you came off saying 94 was MUCH tighter than 97....
You made that comment like it was supposed to get at me cause I was in 97 band, when little did you KNOW... 97 is my least favorite band from 80 to 99..

If you go back and read, your whole reply was froggy yo.....

But I said my piece....
 
s phi s said:
That's EXACTLY the point I was making. When you see a proram the first time it leaves an impression, good or bad, that's gonna stick with you until you see them again.

I disagree that PV was garbage in 96 (at the game you speak of, they really didn't even do enough to make much of a decision). But that's ya opinion, and I can't knock that. After you saw them, you thought they were garbage, and were expecting that same kind of performance when you saw them again.

It's the same for anyone watching any band...When you go IN with expectations, you are almost always disappointed in the performance in some way.
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True that, but a bunch of Willow Ridge seniors felt diffently....
To be honest with you, from what PV was pushing in 96, being that I was across the field from them as a member in the band, my opinion can speak for the whole 96 edition when I say WillowRidge gave more of a battle in 96...That's not smack, but the true opinions of SU 96 band at that PARTICULAR game.....


On another note...

The point I would like to make is.. Your FIRST impression is what counts, and guess what EVERYTIME you step out of your Bandroom you are making a FIRST impression for SOME ONE....
That's why I don't feel the EXCUSES JSU are making....

People have their opinions of what SU band they like better....But I'll say this SU will NEVER and HAVE NEVER dissapointed a FIRST time listener or viewer...

When you see the S....I doubt I will ever hear, that "Ain't" SU I don't know who that is....Seriously doubt it....
 
No I didnt assume that....I merely made that statement before the thread spiraled in another direction. I use the word DAYUM in MANY of my posts here and on other sites. I knew you weren't trying to change my opinion man. I wasn't even THINKING about YOU when I made my 94 vs 97 coment. I was thinking about the times I saw the band in those years and the impresions and thoughts that I thought when I saw them.

If that's how you interpreted my post, then that's on you...But I wasn't trying to get a rise out of anybody...I was merely elaborating on the point I was trying to make. Next time I'll use another school for an example...sheesh....

Back to the thread...
 
I know LOTS of people who felt differently, 'Ridge or not. *shrug* I'm not out to change minds about that game. It was what it was, and the Jukebox was on it that night. I'm just saying that it wasn't that they couldn't, they just didn't (speaking of PV). But that's something that PV has to live with.

You made a GREAT point though!!! Every time, you are making a first impression on SOMEBODY. I tell that to people all the time. Every time, somebody is seeing you for the first time, so you should perform with the same enthusiasm that you did when it was YOUR first time.
 
NOISE TALKA said:
.....Oh these are Grambling folks......never mind. lol.

I know yall are hoping, praying, dreaming that the BOOM won't come to Grambling and issue that annual FOOT IN THE ARSE.

But it will happen....on schedule...as usual. lol.

I stopped reading when he said ALCORN WAS BETTER THAN JSU.

*yawn*


*fart*



:sick:

....and the J-Settes have guts......*yawn*....stop the madness. Poor Grambling.
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Yeah Alcorn just might be better than JSU. Face it!! JSU is soooooo overated.
 
Tsu killed JSU its the truth
a wise man once told me the truth hurts so everybody from jackson is hurt cause TSU killed yall murder murder kill kill this sh@t 4 real on the feild
 
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