Texas refuses to leave for Pac 10-new deal in works


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G, Biggs, and JR up in here preaching gospel about the hillbilly SEC never being an option but y'all ain't hearing it. lol

I can't stand the arrogant SOBs (ut-austin) but they do run the whole show here, can't deny that. And right up their arse is their lil' brother aTm, like a red-headed step child. lol I'll bet a dime to a dollar that the state legisls may have had some impact on decision making though. Too many alums from the FBS schools here in power.
 



Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

mighty hornet said:
you're buying the BS that folks are selling. If Texas thought they could make more money in the SEC and control it like they do the Big 12, you better believe Texas would be interested in the SEC and would never have "played the academic card". Sad that you could be so blinded that you can't see that. As flimsy as it is.


SEC - The conference of the last 4 national champions!!!!!!! Deal with it!!!!

but hey, if it makes you feel better, Texas is "academically" better :scared:

:lol::lol:
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MH, you and everyone else (who has been here long enough) know I am a Pac-10 guy. I don't care one way or the other about Texas. I just live here. :lol:
 
Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

SOGGY,
I don't have a dog in this fight either. But I will call BS when I see it. And bottom line, to suggest that an "academic fit" would outweigh $$$$ is BS. Again, if Texas could make more money and retain control in the SEC, they would be right there. Academic issues and all. (and btw, looking at the all-important academic rankings of the Big 12 and the SEC, I don't really see where Texas can thumb its nose at the SEC when it resides in the Big 12) :scared:

and again,
SEC------last 4, count 'em 4 national football championships!

Maybe the "academically fit" Big 12 or Pac 10 have won the last 4 academic championships! :tup:
 
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Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

mighty hornet said:
SOGGY,
I don't have a dog in this fight either. But I will call BS when I see it. And bottom line, to suggest that an "academic fit" would outweigh $$$$ is BS. Again, if Texas could make more money and retain control in the SEC, they would be right there. Academic issues and all. (and btw, looking at the all-important academic rankings of the Big 12 and the SEC, I don't really see where the Texas can thumb its nose at the SEC when it resides in the Big 12) :scared:

and again,
SEC------last 4, count 'em 4 national football championships!

Maybe the "academically fit" Big 12 or Pac 10 have won the last 4 academic championships! :tup:
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Obviously you don't understand the politics in Texas. They were going to make money no matter where they went. They are Arrogant enough to think they would take over any conference. But when you have RICH ACADEMIC minded folks making the decisions and having the political clout, it trumps just the football minded folks. That decision to go the SEC was never on their agenda. This decision wasn't made my the ADs,fans and coaches who may have preferred the SEC. You don't realize how much money those alums who love football, but still like their so called academic reputation as well have to say about aligning themselves with LIKE schools. Sure money is involved. But their EGOS in Texas are huge.

Just because the SEC won the last 4 Football titles.....means nothing to those kind of folks. They still think they are superior. No different than us on this board think our schools are superior than the other even when we aint winning titles. I don't know why it is so hard to believe that them Texas folks just didn't want to go over there. They are arses like that. You have to had lived in Texas or currently live there to understand the "T-sip" mentality. They want it all. They are are greedy like that. They want the athletic prestige, the money and the academic prestige. For whatever reason they felt the SEC couldn't offer all 3.
 
Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

SEC has schools rated higher, academically, than any Big 12 school
Big 12 has 3 schools in Tier 3. SEC has just the 2 Mississippi schools.

oh well, and to think, Texas would try to "play the academic card" (thanks SOGGY) as if they were already playing in a conference that has sooooo much "academic prestige". (thanks JR)

It is what it is....(again, thanks SOGGY)
 
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Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

JR said:
Just because the SEC won the last 4 Football titles.....means nothing to those kind of folks. They still think they are superior.
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oh ok, kinda like when Jsu lose and TP gets on tspn and say "they are superior" to whoever just beat them. :retard::retard:

makes about as much sense!
:lol:

Texas folks= TP's thought process!


:lol::lol:

Now I understand!

:lol:
 
Mighty Hornet,

I don't buy it. (even though thats exactly what some would try to sell) . It's about $$$$. And these are ATHLETIC conferences, first and foremost. And football is where the $$$$ are. Not academic debates among the conference schools or scientific retreats.
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What if the money is about equal between the two conference affiliations?
 
Jafus,
If the money is equal, then if they choose to use other measures, such as proximity of schools, traditional rivals, academic standings, etc, thats one thing. But thats not how this has been presented. They were saying that Texas wouldnt even consider the SEC or it is "not an option", based solely on academic standing, prestige, reputation, etc.
 
Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

mighty hornet said:
oh ok, kinda like when Jsu lose and TP gets on tspn and say "they are superior" to whoever just beat them. :retard::retard:

makes about as much sense!
:lol:

Texas folks= TP's thought process!


:lol::lol:

Now I understand!

:lol:
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MH, now you know I got to lmao @ that comment. I almost spit my drink out.:lol: You can also replace JSU with Ga Tech when it comes to TP.:D
 
Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

mighty hornet said:
SEC has schools rated higher, academically, than any Big 12 school
Big 12 has 3 schools in Tier 3. SEC has just the 2 Mississippi schools.

oh well, and to think, Texas would try to "play the academic card" (thanks SOGGY) as if they were already playing in a conference that has sooooo much "academic prestige". (thanks JR)

It is what it is....(again, thanks SOGGY)
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Actually you are right about the Big 12. The Pac 10 or Big 10 would have been more prestigious for Texas to join. There were only a few Big 12 teams the Big 10 would have invited. The Big 10 would have given Texas more money. But Ohio State and Michigan were not going to allow Texas to come in and dictate terms. I told you Texas is greedy. They want their cake and eat it too. They don't want to share equally. LOL. The only thing the SEC offered them was competition. That's why they had no intention of joining or had any interest. I am positive they actually think they are more advanced than any of those SEC schools in all phases. I told ya they are arrogant like that. Big 10 schools are arrogant but not Texas arrogant. Big 10 schools are snobs. All their schools think the same way about schools down South. So they are a more unified bunch. Texas is on an island in the Big 12 and those other schools just bow down. That isht wouldn't happen in the Big 10.
 
mighty hornet said:
Jafus,
If the money is equal, then if they choose to use other measures, such as proximity of schools, traditional rivals, academic standings, etc, thats one thing. But thats not how this has been presented. They were saying that Texas wouldnt even consider the SEC or it is "not an option", based solely on academic standing, prestige, reputation, etc.
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Actually MH, its ALL of the above. We are going in circles here. We agreed it WAS about money, but that is was also about not wanting to be members of the SEC because...well Texas thinks the SEC schools are nothing but a bunch of southern dummies. :lol:
 
Re: So, Texas didn't want to go to the SEC because

JR said:
MH, now you know I got to lmao @ that comment. I almost spit my drink out.:lol: You can also replace JSU with Ga Tech when it comes to TP.:D
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Just have your AD to call DRad. We got an option attack waiting on you!
 
MIghty Hornet,

Nobody said solely. They said it was not a good fit. Part of that fit dealt with academic reputation.
 
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AAU was founded in 1900 by a group of fourteen Ph.D.-granting universities in the United States to strengthen and standardize American doctoral programs.

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Public
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (1900)
University of Wisconsin–Madison (1900)

Private
University of Chicago (1900)
Columbia University (1900)
Cornell University (1900)
Harvard University (1900)
Johns Hopkins University (1900)
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
Princeton University (1900)
Stanford University (1900)
Yale University (1900)

Current Members
Public:
University of Arizona (1985)
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York (1989)
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of California, Davis (1996)
University of California, Irvine (1996)
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
University of California, San Diego (1982)
University of California, Santa Barbara (1995)
University of Colorado at Boulder (1966)
University of Florida (1985)
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1908)
Indiana University Bloomington (1909)
University of Iowa (1909)
Iowa State University (1958)
University of Kansas (1909)
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (1900)
Michigan State University (1964)
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (1908)
University of Missouri (1908)
University of Nebraska–Lincoln (1909)
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
The Ohio State University (1916)
University of Oregon (1969)
Pennsylvania State University (1958)
University of Pittsburgh (1974)
Purdue University (1958)
Stony Brook University (2001)
University of Texas at Austin (1929)
Texas A&M University (2001)
University of Virginia (1904)
University of Washington (1950)
University of Wisconsin–Madison (1900)

Private:
Brandeis University (1985)
Brown University (1933)
California Institute of Technology (1934)
Carnegie Mellon University (1982)
Case Western Reserve University (1969)
University of Chicago (1900)
Columbia University (1900)
Cornell University (1900)
Duke University (1938)
Emory University (1995)
Harvard University (1900)
Johns Hopkins University (1900)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1934)
New York University (1950)
Northwestern University (1917)
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
Princeton University (1900)
Rice University (1985)
University of Rochester (1941)
University of Southern California (1969)
Stanford University (1900)
Syracuse University (1966)
Tulane University (1958)
Vanderbilt University (1950)
Washington University in St. Louis (1923)
Yale University (1900)

Canadian
McGill University (1926)
University of Toronto (1926)

Former members
The Catholic University of America (1900-2002)
Departed as a result of "institutional emphases and energies" that differed from the other AAU members.

Clark University (1900-1999)
Departed because its "goals diverged from the strong research orientation of other AAU institutions".
 
mighty hornet said:
Jafus,
If the money is equal, then if they choose to use other measures, such as proximity of schools, traditional rivals, academic standings, etc, thats one thing. But thats not how this has been presented. They were saying that Texas wouldnt even consider the SEC or it is "not an option", based solely on academic standing, prestige, reputation, etc.
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I believe Texas would reject the SEC on academic grounds alone. Texas has had other invitations to join the SEC. It was the school the SEC wanted when it expanded before, but it declined and Arkansas was added. Texas (which gets a portion of the state's oil money for its endowment) and some of the Big 12 schools (OU and Nebraska) have substantially larger academic endowments that the average SEC school. Big 10 schools (Michigan, Ohio State, Illinois, ) had even larger endowments dedicated to the academic side. A lot of time, money and effort has been dedicated to creating the illusion of academic prominence and Texas won't give that away just to win an athletic contest. The academic reputation is way more valuable than an athletic one. Check out how these schools constantly tout their rankings in that yearly report by the U.S. News and World Report.


Besides, Texas does not need the SEC because it has deep pockets from which to obtain athletic funds (an athletic budget that reached 100 million a couple of years ago-a budget larger than most, if not all, of the SEC schools) and it is about to start a tv network that is expected to be a cash cow. Because the SEC, unlike the Big 12, shares revenues evenly, Texas would have to forgo its own network and let the SEC market its games. It is not inconceivable that Texas would lose money by going to the SEC under this arrangment.

Texas obviously ( as indicated by statements why it does not want to join) believes the SEC schools are a step down.. Otherwise, Texas would have bolted to it a long time ago.
 
Jafus (Thinker) said:
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AAU was founded in 1900 by a group of fourteen Ph.D.-granting universities in the United States to strengthen and standardize American doctoral programs.

Today, the primary purpose of the AAU is to provide a forum for the development and implementation of institutional and national policies, in order to promote strong programs in academic research and scholarship and undergraduate, graduate, and professional education. The AAU holds two annual meetings.

The fall meeting is conducted on a member campus while the spring meeting is held in the headquarters city of Washington, D.C.


As of 2004, AAU members accounted for 58% of U.S. universities' research grants and contract income and 52% of all doctorates awarded in the United States. Since 1999, 43% of all Nobel Prize winners and 74% of winners at U.S. institutions have been affiliated with an AAU university. Approximately two-thirds of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences 2006 Class of Fellows are affiliated with an AAU university.

The faculties at AAU universities include 2,993 members of the United States National Academies (82% of all members): the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine (2004).

AAU membership is by invitation only, which requires an affirmative vote of three-fourths of current members. Invitations are considered periodically, based in part on an assessment of the breadth and quality of university programs of research and graduate education, as well as undergraduate education.

Founding members are:
Public
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (1900)
University of Wisconsin–Madison (1900)

Private
University of Chicago (1900)
Columbia University (1900)
Cornell University (1900)
Harvard University (1900)
Johns Hopkins University (1900)
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
Princeton University (1900)
Stanford University (1900)
Yale University (1900)

Current Members
Public:
University of Arizona (1985)
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York (1989)
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of California, Davis (1996)
University of California, Irvine (1996)
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
University of California, San Diego (1982)
University of California, Santa Barbara (1995)
University of Colorado at Boulder (1966)
University of Florida (1985)
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1908)
Indiana University Bloomington (1909)
University of Iowa (1909)
Iowa State University (1958)
University of Kansas (1909)
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (1900)
Michigan State University (1964)
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (1908)
University of Missouri (1908)
University of Nebraska–Lincoln (1909)
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
The Ohio State University (1916)
University of Oregon (1969)
Pennsylvania State University (1958)
University of Pittsburgh (1974)
Purdue University (1958)
Stony Brook University (2001)
University of Texas at Austin (1929)
Texas A&M University (2001)
University of Virginia (1904)
University of Washington (1950)
University of Wisconsin–Madison (1900)

Private:
Brandeis University (1985)
Brown University (1933)
California Institute of Technology (1934)
Carnegie Mellon University (1982)
Case Western Reserve University (1969)
University of Chicago (1900)
Columbia University (1900)
Cornell University (1900)
Duke University (1938)
Emory University (1995)
Harvard University (1900)
Johns Hopkins University (1900)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1934)
New York University (1950)
Northwestern University (1917)
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
Princeton University (1900)
Rice University (1985)
University of Rochester (1941)
University of Southern California (1969)
Stanford University (1900)
Syracuse University (1966)
Tulane University (1958)
Vanderbilt University (1950)
Washington University in St. Louis (1923)
Yale University (1900)

Canadian
McGill University (1926)
University of Toronto (1926)

Former members
The Catholic University of America (1900-2002)
Departed as a result of "institutional emphases and energies" that differed from the other AAU members.

Clark University (1900-1999)
Departed because its "goals diverged from the strong research orientation of other AAU institutions".
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Good deal, Jafus.

I did not look them up because I knew you would!!!
 
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SEC 2 of 12 = 17%
University of Florida (1985)
Vanderbilt University (1950)

Big East 3 of 8 = 38% (football)
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
Syracuse University (1966)
University of Pittsburgh (1974)

ACC 5 of 12 = 42%
Duke University (1938)
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
University of Virginia (1904)

Big XII 7 of 12 = 58%
Iowa State University (1958)
Texas A&M University (2001)
University of Colorado at Boulder (1966)
The University of Kansas (1909)
University of Missouri-Columbia (1908)
University of Nebraska-Lincoln (1909)
The University of Texas at Austin (1929)

PAC 10 7 of 10 = 70%
Stanford University (1900)
The University of Arizona (1985)
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
University of Oregon (1969)
University of Southern California (1969)
University of Washington (1950)

Big Ten 11 of 11 = 100%
Indiana University (1909)
Michigan State University (1964)
Northwestern University (1917)
The Ohio State University (1916)
The Pennsylvania State University (1958)
Purdue University (1958)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1908)
The University of Iowa (1909)
University of Michigan (1900)
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (1908)
The University of Wisconsin-Madison (1900)

Non-BCS membership
Brandeis University (1985)
Brown University (1933)
California Institute of Technology (1934)
Carnegie Mellon University (1982)
Case Western Reserve University (1969)
Columbia University (1900)
Cornell University (1900)
Emory University (1995)
Harvard University (1900)
The Johns Hopkins University (1900)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1934)
McGill University (1926)
New York University (1950)
Princeton University (1900)
Rice University (1985)
Stony Brook University-State University of New York (2001)
Tulane University (1958)
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York (1989)
University of California, Davis (1996)
University of California, Irvine (1996)
University of California, San Diego (1982)
University of California, Santa Barbara (1995)
The University of Chicago (1900)
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
University of Rochester (1941)
University of Toronto (1926)
Washington University in St. Louis (1923)
Yale University (1900)
 
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SEC 2 of 12 = 17%
University of Florida (1985)
Vanderbilt University (1950)

Big East 3 of 8 = 38% (football)
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
Syracuse University (1966)
University of Pittsburgh (1974)

ACC 5 of 12 = 42%
Duke University (1938)
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
University of Virginia (1904)

Big XII 5 of 10 = 50%
Iowa State University (1958)
Texas A&M University (2001)
The University of Kansas (1909)
University of Missouri-Columbia (1908)
The University of Texas at Austin (1929)

PAC 10 8 of 11 = 73%
Stanford University (1900)
The University of Arizona (1985)
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
University of Oregon (1969)
University of Southern California (1969)
University of Washington (1950)
University of Colorado at Boulder (1966)

Big Ten 12 of 12 = 100%
Indiana University (1909)
Michigan State University (1964)
Northwestern University (1917)
The Ohio State University (1916)
The Pennsylvania State University (1958)
Purdue University (1958)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1908)
The University of Iowa (1909)
University of Michigan (1900)
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (1908)
The University of Wisconsin-Madison (1900)
University of Nebraska-Lincoln (1909)

Non-BCS membership
Brandeis University (1985)
Brown University (1933)
California Institute of Technology (1934)
Carnegie Mellon University (1982)
Case Western Reserve University (1969)
Columbia University (1900)
Cornell University (1900)
Emory University (1995)
Harvard University (1900)
The Johns Hopkins University (1900)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1934)
McGill University (1926)
New York University (1950)
Princeton University (1900)
Rice University (1985)
Stony Brook University-State University of New York (2001)
Tulane University (1958)
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York (1989)
University of California, Davis (1996)
University of California, Irvine (1996)
University of California, San Diego (1982)
University of California, Santa Barbara (1995)
The University of Chicago (1900)
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
University of Rochester (1941)
University of Toronto (1926)
Washington University in St. Louis (1923)
Yale University (1900)
 
Interesting post from another board:

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=19926447

The academic argument is such crap-

If the Big 12 schools are so concerned about academics, when in the hell were they in the Big 12 to begin with? No question, the PAC 10 is better in that regard than the SEC - no argument whatsoever. But compare the current Big 12 to the SEC-

BIG 12
Texas - 47th
Texas A&M - 61st
Colorado - 77th
Baylor - 80th
Iowa - 88th
Kansas - 96th
Nebraska - 96th
Missouri - 102nd
Oklahoma - 102nd
Kansas State - 3rd tier
Oklahoma State - 3rd tier
Texas Tech - 3rd tier

SEC
Vanderbilt - 17th
Florida - 47th
Georgia - 58th
Auburn - 88th
Alabama - 96th
Tennessee - 106th
South Carolina - 110th
LSU - 128th
Arkansas - 128th
Kentucky -128th
Mississippi State - 3rd tier
Mississippi - 3rd tier

Compare-
HIGHEST RANK
Big 12 - 47th
SEC - 17th

Advantage - SEC

Top 100 schools
Big 12 - 7
SEC - 6

Advantage - Big 12, barely

3rd TIER SCHOOLS
Big 12 - 3
SEC - 2

Advantage - SEC

AVERAGE RANK
Big 12 - 100
SEC - 100

Tie

The academics in the Big 12, compared to the SEC are a push with a slight advantage to the SEC. While the PAC 10 is without a doubt a step up, for folks to make out like going from the Big 12 to the SEC amounts to a drastic drop in academics is a crap argument.

And, really, anyone who says that academics will play a role in these decisions are just playing lip service. It's about money and TV markets period.
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Now, take out Colorado and Nebraska-


HIGHEST RANK
Big 12 - 47th
SEC - 17th

Advantage - SEC

Top 100 schools
Big 12 - 5
SEC - 6

Advantage - SEC

3rd TIER SCHOOLS
Big 12 - 3
SEC - 2

Advantage - SEC

AVERAGE RANK
Big 12 - 103
SEC - 100

Advantage - SEC
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It seems that the notion of Big 12 academic superiority is not true. Texas was able to find one stat that favored them - AAU membership. But, like the old saying goes ... "there three types of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics".

The conference Texas is in now is not academically superior to the SEC. So, it appears that academic excuse is bogus.
 
Jafus (Thinker) said:
MIghty Hornet,

Nobody said solely. They said it was not a good fit. Part of that fit dealt with academic reputation.
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ummm, they may not have said solely, but they suggested that it was the driving issue. And its not. Heck, if "academic reputation" was such a big part of the equation, why would Texas be in the Big 12, when a fourth of those schools are Tier 3?
:scared:


Texas doesn't want any parts of the SEC for a reason. And it shole aint the reason yall trying to pass off.
 
mighty hornet said:
ummm, they may not have said solely, but they suggested that it was the driving issue. And its not. Heck, if "academic reputation" was such a big part of the equation, why would Texas be in the Big 12, when a fourth of those schools are Tier 3?
:scared:


Texas doesn't want any parts of the SEC for a reason. And it shole aint the reason yall trying to pass off.
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So true.
 
msp1911 said:
Interesting post from another board:

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=19926447





It seems that the notion of Big 12 academic superiority is not true. Texas was able to find one stat that favored them - AAU membership. But, like the old saying goes ... "there three types of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics".

The conference Texas is in now is not academically superior to the SEC. So, it appears that academic excuse is bogus.
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I saw those same rankings!!!!!!!!!! Again, this whole "academic reputation and rankings" angle is a bunch of bull. It doesn't wash. At all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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