"Swing and Sway", where did this marching style originate?


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SUtrp96 said:
You was saying the same thing I just said this past year.....You know they ain't marching, it don't take no historian to figure that out...
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It sure doesn't. :rolleyes: We ALL know they need to work on marching. SU got some things they need to work on, too. Now WHAT?!?! :rolleyes:
 



SLT said:
Yes, it was done under Haughton's era also.

Is the history of Taylor all some of you know?? :retard:

I wasn't in school during the Payton/Jackie Slater era, but dag, I do know about it....:nod:
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I think the thing is that Taylor at least kept some of the good things from the previous era before putting his stamp on the program. Since he was our last good band director, people are always going to reference him until we get a new director.
 
Tigerpride said:
I think the thing is that Taylor at least kept some of the good things from the previous era before putting his stamp on the program. Since he was our last good band director, people are always going to reference him until we get a new director.
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Haughton, Taylor and Liddell followed Legendary Band Directors at JSU; don't think Liddell will ever be considered a Legend at JSU, but you have to give Liddell credit for putting a consistently competitive band on the field during his tenure.
 
Swing-n-sway was introduced during the Houghton era. It is probably the most distinctive difference between Davis and Houghton bands.
 
a JSU Tiger said:
"Swing and Sway", was JSU's marching style under Dowell Taylor, where did it originate?
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JR said:
If I am not mistaken that style was done under Haughton as well, so it is older than Taylor's era. Maybe SLT, Staggalee83 or Bengal E can elaborate.
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Pop was screaming that on the practice field when my brothers was in the boom back in the 70's long before I got there in 1982. :lmao:

Can anyone trace it back further with FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE.:lmao:
 
The thing that makes corps style work is that it is easier to "look" uniform because it minimizes excess movement.

Taylor apparently wanted an exaggerated "Swing-n-Sway". I use "apparently" because I graduated in 1983. He got what he wanted. All I know about how he got what he wanted (long practices, the dogs, any threats, etc.) I have learned from reading comments on this board. Those of you who marched in those bands could tell us how he got what he wanted.

Any style that uses exaggerated movements (high knee lifts, pointed toes, anything that makes the plume on your shako move in any way) is a feast or famine situation. When EVERYBODY does it the same, the effect is FANTASTIC. You won't find anything that looks better. Otherwise, it looks horrible.

If you think about a line of dancers that are supposed to be kicking their heels above their heads in rhythm and there are one or two of them interspersed that are only kicking to their waists, you know that is an ugly picture. But when all of them are kicking high, it is a think of beauty to behold.

That is really how it is with "swing-n-sway". If you're going to do it, you most definitely have to be committed. Most importantly, you have to be physically fit if you are going to have a chance at pulling it off at all.
 
So, the bounce and "rock" that the Boom is doing now isn't "swing and sway". What is it that they're doing now? I know with the Ocean it isn't the same as what they used to do.
 



mustardmanSU_04 said:
So, the Jaguar Rock is like swing n' sway on crack, huh?
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LOL. Even the Jaguar Rock used to be more involved back in the 80s if you look at the old films. The kicking on 8. The whip turns which are done incorrectly now...... well I will say not done like we did them. But hey things change. But all that takes long practice which the band directors don't have these days. I think everybody's marching style has change or been altered a bit over time.
 
JR said:
LOL. Even the Jaguar Rock used to be more involved back in the 80s if you look at the old films. The kicking on 8. The whip turns which are done incorrectly now...... well I will say not done like we did them. But hey things change. But all that takes long practice which the band directors don't have these days. I think everybody's marching style has change or been altered a bit over time.
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I actually like the small changes better than the old way....Its really the same but instead of leaning forward like yall did we now lean back.....and the whips are a lil more flashy
 
JBizzl said:
I actually like the small changes better than the old way....Its really the same but instead of leaning forward like yall did we now lean back.....and the whips are a lil more flashy
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Really?:o I will just agree to disagree. Actually they dip now before doing whip turns which takes the element of the flash out of it. You can really see it with the trombones. We didn't lean forward in the mid 80s. I think once Chester White left SU the marching style took a change. He was the one who taught each Freshman class the basics along with the Upperclassman band staff. If you look at old footage you can see the rock, the kick on 8 and whip turn being more pronounced. Actually to a degree with the 83 band.......too much rock in the tenor drum section. Started looking like windshield wipers. LOL.
 
dacontinent said:
That is really how it is with "swing-n-sway". If you're going to do it, you most definitely have to be committed. Most importantly, you have to be physically fit if you are going to have a chance at pulling it off at all.
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:nod::nod::nod::nod::nod::nod:

This is the truth here.

Some sections were better at it than others, like mine. Percy used to have us in sectionals just for marching. I would hear "get your knee in your chest" in my sleep. :xeye:

Yeah, you really had to be physically fit. Those were the days, though. :flippy:
 
JR said:
Really?:o I will just agree to disagree. Actually they dip now before doing whip turns which takes the element of the flash out of it. You can really see it with the trombones. We didn't lean forward in the mid 80s. I think once Chester White left SU the marching style took a change. He was the one who taught each Freshman class the basics along with the Upperclassman band staff. If you look at old footage you can see the rock, the kick on 8 and whip turn being more pronounced. Actually to a degree with the 83 band.......too much rock in the tenor drum section. Started looking like windshield wipers. LOL.
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Funny you say that about 83, in my opinion that was the BEST looking SU band ever to hit the field besides the footage I saw at Dinky house of 78 band.. 85 may have came the closest since 83.
 
JR said:
Really?:o I will just agree to disagree. Actually they dip now before doing whip turns which takes the element of the flash out of it. You can really see it with the trombones. We didn't lean forward in the mid 80s. I think once Chester White left SU the marching style took a change. He was the one who taught each Freshman class the basics along with the Upperclassman band staff. If you look at old footage you can see the rock, the kick on 8 and whip turn being more pronounced. Actually to a degree with the 83 band.......too much rock in the tenor drum section. Started looking like windshield wipers. LOL.
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Watch it LB........:lmao:
 
SUtrp96 said:
Funny you say that about 83, in my opinion that was the BEST looking SU band ever to hit the field besides the footage I saw at Dinky house of 78 band.. 85 may have came the closest since 83.
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Don't get me wrong Juke. 83 was the best that I saw. I agree with your whole analogy. 83 was a beast. However only us Jukes can find a small thing and mess with it. LOL. There were these 2 Tenor Drum members who would over exaggerate the rock when they marched in 83 and you can see it in most shows that year on film. I would call them out, but them old PSI bruhs my come find me and put me back on line. :lmao:
 
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