SWAC HOOPS 1/6/07


*Public Service Announcement*

Valley has a squad this year. I'm just letting everybody know, so no one will say I didn't tell you guys. We just gone sit back in the cut and let the "favorites" get the attention.
 
*Public Service Announcement*

Valley has a squad this year. I'm just letting everybody know, so no one will say I didn't tell you guys. We just gone sit back in the cut and let the "favorites" get the attention.

if you determine that after playing US, then you will be sad again at the end of the season.... We have lost all our games by double digits and we havent had more than 20 points at the half in any of our SWAC games.
 



Dude, they had injuries to some of the signees, and some were lost to grades. You wait next year though. For example Freda Allen a.k.a Baby Ben Wallace tore her acl in practice. She is a 6'1 forward. We lost 2 signees to grades, 6'2 center, and 5'9 sg. 2 players who were on the team was lost to grades and 1 of them career may be over. Deidra Jackson was one of those players. I'm just slowly waiting for this season to be over.
 
Dude, they had injuries to some of the signees, and some were lost to grades. You wait next year though. For example Freda Allen a.k.a Baby Ben Wallace tore her acl in practice. She is a 6'1 forward. We lost 2 signees to grades, 6'2 center, and 5'9 sg. 2 players who were on the team was lost to grades and 1 of them career may be over. Deidra Jackson was one of those players. I'm just slowly waiting for this season to be over.

thats life... SU isnt the only program who has lost players to injurys or grades.
 
if you determine that after playing US, then you will be sad again at the end of the season.... We have lost all our games by double digits and we havent had more than 20 points at the half in any of our SWAC games.



Nah, I BEEN saying this, I even told Jag-BR before the season, because we were getting "Big" Ronald Alexander back. This is one of the deepest Valley teams that i've seen in a minute. Green has atleast 10 players that he can put out on the floor with confidence. There are no superstars, but everybody plays as a team, and trust me, these boys play some DEFENSE and rebound the basketball. We have alot of size in contrast to previous years.
 
thats life... SU isnt the only program who has lost players to injurys or grades.

Exactly. Like I said, some teams are very young this year, and next year those same players gonna be back. We only have 1 senior this year, and to say he is the most experienced player, other folks help him out on the court. Women wise, I said it. Next year will be DIFFERENT. You right Rob, you finally got what you wanted and that was size. :nod:
 
TSU withstands Prairie View rally
Tigers win 71-67 Despite missing 24 free throws and committing 22 turnovers

Head line from Houston Chron.
Wasn't sure if I should put this on the smack or sports. But I didn't want to be the one to leave the gate open so here ya go!!!
 
Nah, I BEEN saying this, I even told Jag-BR before the season, because we were getting "Big" Ronald Alexander back. This is one of the deepest Valley teams that i've seen in a minute. Green has atleast 10 players that he can put out on the floor with confidence. There are no superstars, but everybody plays as a team, and trust me, these boys play some DEFENSE and rebound the basketball. We have alot of size in contrast to previous years.

You are Right about how deep the team is with talent also. Fans noticed too how big the team was this year. Thats a plus!!!! We will stay in the SWAC race.
 
You are Right about how deep the team is with talent also. Fans noticed too how big the team was this year. Thats a plus!!!! We will stay in the SWAC race.
We might not defend our title this year but next. I just wanna make the tournament.
 
Last year coached Green team played more organized than previous Striplins coached team. I saw then that Green could coach.

I also noticed improvement in a talented and athletic UAPB team which should carry over into this season.

Jackson State with the top player in the conference and an experienced coach at the helm will be hard to derail.

But don't count the Hornets out just yet. The Jacksons normally get the most out of their teams.
 
Last year coached Green team played more organized than previous Striplins coached team. I saw then that Green could coach.

I also noticed improvement in a talented and athletic UAPB team which should carry over into this season.

Jackson State with the top player in the conference and an experienced coach at the helm will be hard to derail.

But don't count the Hornets out just yet. The Jacksons normally get the most out of their teams.
People are quick to critique our former coaches but those coaches sure knew how to recriut better players than these so called organized coaches of THE New Swac, and the games were way more entertaining than they are now. Avery Johnson, Bobby Phills, Javon Scales, Robert Youngblood, Darrel Battle, Al Ford, Lindsey Hunter, Machine Gun Kelly send help. I hope you guys realize we will never beat the big schools playing their game, organized basketball. Ben Jobe 100 shots per game style=1st round NCAA victory. :lol:
 
People are quick to critique our former coaches but those coaches sure knew how to recriut better players than these so called organized coaches of THE New Swac, and the games were way more entertaining than they are now. Avery Johnson, Bobby Phills, Javon Scales, Robert Youngblood, Darrel Battle, Al Ford, Lindsey Hunter, Machine Gun Kelly send help. I hope you guys realize we will never beat the big schools playing their game, organized basketball. Ben Jobe 100 shots per game style=1st round NCAA victory. :lol:

You maybe right. I was only commenting on todays swac coaches. I see Ben Jobe at most Bama State games and all the coaches visit and get his insight.

BTW, Spivery heads the list of so-called "organized coaches".
 
BTW, Spivery heads the list of so-called "organized coaches".
I know. :lmao: I over heard one Jaguar say he had more fun at a funeral than at a SU b-ball game. Spivery is a great X and O's coach but the key is can he recriut players to play his system at SU. Only time will tell.
 
I really don't get all this bashing Sprivey's coaching. Most colleges and most nba teams are running the same plays and style of plays.

Truth is, SU has a good team. I saw them Saturday against GSU. One of the issue is SU isn't deep. However, they will get better and better as the year progresses. The defense is tight. It is a asset. We could use a sure shoot sharp shooter and a dominate power man inside. Yet, who isn't looking for a dominate inside man, espeicially at the HBCUs.

As for the ladies, they have to address the horrible free throw shooting. It think they went 9 for 23 against GSU. They have pulled away early and left GSU in a huge hole, but they missed FT after FT keeping GSU within reach until they hit a couple of shoots and got in the game and took the lead. The refs in this game were extremely bias. Though basketball is my favorite sport, refing is the one thing that occassionally rubs me wrong. It was like they would call stupid non-existing fouls when GSU fell down a few points. Then when they got close of pulled ahead, there were no calls on either end. But, I was taught and l learned many years ago that you control the boards, hit your free throws and punish your opponent for their mistakes to win. We sucked at free throws and lost what was really a close game (score very misleading). Depth could be an issue against a really good SWAC team. 8 players isn't going to cut it, especially when that 8 has some very young talent and a couple that could use some toughning mixed in it. There are about 3 very strong players, including the PG, that will carrry the team. But, they will need help if they expect to win the SWAC somehow.

I hated it, but due to work and kid's activities, I probably will not get a chance to see them again, though I wanted to try and hit Pine Bluff and/or PV games. We'll see.

However Jags, we need to get out and support our men and ladies. They will need that assistance to garnish some form of home court advantage in BR. Even before Jobe, we had an impact on the games to add our team. Remember, we'll always loyal be.

Peace...
 
Remember..AAU ball wasn't like it is now also so recruiting tactics differed...but even ol' Elwood Plummer at PV put together some talented teams with no scholarships during the late 90s and early 2000s.

Those old coaches referrel systems were better then than the people who's referring players now.

As funny as it sounds...your better coaches in the SWAC were renegades such as Mike Grant...he brought in a thug or five but they sholl' could play..:lmao:
 



basically you have to realize until you get your program off the ground and to a point that they've earned a reputation of being a consistant winner like butler or the mvc teams, the big schools are going to suck up all the premier talent. so you've got to find another way to get good talent that might be off the traditional high school/aau circuit. for instance, we are hbcu's, founded to educate africans and their desendants, yet there might only be one african playing basketball in the swac. that's something that could be rectified and would be a great service to the student,the continent and the school and athletic programs. there are lots of african kids that see basketball as a way to america. we should advantage of the situation. as well, there are lots of kids who can play but are academically at risk. though you don't want to take too many of them because of the new standards put in place by the ncaa, take one or two prop 48 kids and red shirting some who can play that qualify late is something to look at as well. you've got to find a niche in the recruiting game. also can look at grabbing more transfers from other DI programs.
 
Remember..AAU ball wasn't like it is now also so recruiting tactics differed...but even ol' Elwood Plummer at PV put together some talented teams with no scholarships during the late 90s and early 2000s.

Those old coaches referrel systems were better then than the people who's referring players now.

As funny as it sounds...your better coaches in the SWAC were renegades such as Mike Grant...he brought in a thug or five but they sholl' could play..:lmao:
I always thought Elwood Plummer was a hell of a coach. He did wonders with no scholarships. I felt sorry for him when PVU fired him.
 
I really don't get all this bashing Sprivey's coaching. Most colleges and most nba teams are running the same plays and style of plays.

Truth is, SU has a good team. I saw them Saturday against GSU. One of the issue is SU isn't deep. However, they will get better and better as the year progresses. The defense is tight. It is a asset. We could use a sure shoot sharp shooter and a dominate power man inside. Yet, who isn't looking for a dominate inside man, espeicially at the HBCUs.
Im not bashing Spivery's coaching. He is the best coach in the conference. I just don't care for his offense. After Ralph Hipshaw flunked out I knew we would be in trouble this season.
 
Im not bashing Spivery's coaching. He is the best coach in the conference. I just don't care for his offense. After Ralph Hipshaw flunked out I knew we would be in trouble this season.

alot of people in montgomery felt the same. well, his offense is good if he has the players for it. if he was at a big time school he'd be great, but it's just hard to recruit guys to that system at this level. actually he'd even be great in the MVC. if's he's got the bigs and one or two guys who can shoot, with the defense he gets his teams to play....it's all over. his first trip to the ncaa tourney w/ bama state, they were matched up w/ MI State. they run the same deliberate half court style as spivery. half time 29-25 msu. 2nd half the spartans came out running and spivery couldn't keep up. other than recruiting issues, that's the only thing I question about spivery, his unwillingness to make the adjustment. they can be playing a squad literally wearing cement boots, and he'll still walk it up and run the offense. I still like him better than those coaches that just roll the ball out to half court and say...run! that's not basketball, that's athletball, i e henry bibby, sampson at indiana (lost to duke b/c they couldn't run a set play) and a ton of others.
 
alot of people in montgomery felt the same. well, his offense is good if he has the players for it. if he was at a big time school he'd be great, but it's just hard to recruit guys to that system at this level. actually he'd even be great in the MVC. if's he's got the bigs and one or two guys who can shoot, with the defense he gets his teams to play....it's all over. his first trip to the ncaa tourney w/ bama state, they were matched up w/ MI State. they run the same deliberate half court style as spivery. half time 29-25 msu. 2nd half the spartans came out running and spivery couldn't keep up. other than recruiting issues, that's the only thing I question about spivery, his unwillingness to make the adjustment. they can be playing a squad literally wearing cement boots, and he'll still walk it up and run the offense. I still like him better than those coaches that just roll the ball out to half court and say...run! that's not basketball, that's athletball, i e henry bibby, sampson at indiana (lost to duke b/c they couldn't run a set play) and a ton of others.
great observation major......yeah it's boring as hell butit works
 
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