How do you know what Doc was? Did you see him in the 70s and 80s? Or did you see Doc in the 90s and 2000s when he was already an ICON and was like nobody is better than me. Doc was a good man. Loved that dude. Second father to me. But if you think Doc was never cut throat to his opponent. Did you never hear the chants the Jukebox would say to other bands when we ran folks out the stands? If Haymer did that, yall would be saying he is a mad man. Doc would have us say "Hey (whatever school)! Keep walking chicken with your ARSE picked clean"
Where do you think we got turning our backs to other bands? Man yall are tripping. The problem is Haymer is young and yall have not seen a young band director inherit a band like SU. Did any of you ever hear the female announcer the Ocean had back in the day? She would straight tear you up at halftime. Man yall done gone soft. Ain't like Haymer had the band rolling on the ground. Shouting obscenities to the Boom. He is just in your face with the Juke. Just like the black man was way back in the day. Doc had just gotten tired of killing bands in his latter years and did not give a fugg about battling. Hell I can remember us purposely marching in on the road late just so folks would know the Jukebox had arrived. Doc would have us sitting on the bus until he was ready to make his grand appearance. And if you dared blow on him while he came in. Payback was going to be a beyotch. But all this wild man isht is over the top. The band members are tame now compared to the old days. These kids are not wild or causing problems. Actually Haymer is more of a band disciplinarian than Jackson was. And I know yall saw Jackson beat his chest and point at the other band when he was over SU. But now Haymer gets criticized? Were was the criticism then?