Some Historically Black Colleges See Declining Enrollment

[SAME OLD G]

And as far as education on the elementary/high school level, I'm pro public school all the way--- as long as the school district is great. I don't care if it's an all black school or mixed. Because I plan to expose my son to much more than what's at school and at home. I have a responsibility as a parent to raise a man who can stand on his own two feet, good make judgements (even concerning college) and not be sheltered to what's in the world. Many of those teachings will start at HOME, so it doesn't matter if he goes to a white or black school as a child.

Say it again! :tup:

 

[SLT]

And as far as education on the elementary/high school level, I'm pro public school all the way--- as long as the school district is great. I don't care if it's an all black school or mixed. Because I plan to expose my son to much more than what's at school and at home. I have a responsibility as a parent to raise a man who can stand on his own two feet, good make judgements (even concerning college) and not be sheltered to what's in the world. Many of those teachings will start at HOME, so it doesn't matter if he goes to a white or black school as a child.

:tup:

I recall someone on this board posting where they would be uncomfortable at a football game with that many white folks around.....If only I could remember who that was...:read:

 

[unknown]

I won't make my child attend a HBCU, but my husband and I are going to strongly encourage it, and we will expose him to black college life.
People do have to do what's best for them, and that's cool.
But as for "me and my house," we're encouraging HBCUs for the undergraduate experience.

And as far as education on the elementary/high school level, I'm pro public school all the way--- as long as the school district is great. I don't care if it's an all black school or mixed. Because I plan to expose my son to much more than what's at school and at home. I have a responsibility as a parent to raise a man who can stand on his own two feet, good make judgements (even concerning college) and not be sheltered to what's in the world. Many of those teachings will start at HOME, so it doesn't matter if he goes to a white or black school as a child.

Higher education hits more closer to home for me. I do care where he goes for college. I have NO problem admitting that I'm a racist when it comes to our HBCUs versus the PWCs. I am. I would MUCH RATHER see my people at our schools (esp. high intellects and star athletes). I LOVE my black schools, the rich heritage that comes along with it and how many of us can still overcome adversity on a college campus.

And thats fine... but there is nothing wrong with attending a PWC. The thing is there are more blacks going to PWCs than HBCUs now and they of course will advise their kids against HBCUs. Thats where the disparity will come in. Either way you have a chance of getting a good or bad education either way you choose.

 

[DAHILL]

So what if there are no black high schools in my area, does that mean I can't send my kids to a HBCU?

This makes no sense to me. Help me to see the light.

did you read anything I said.. I said when people take their kids out of their NEIGHBORHOOD Black school... if there is not a Black school in your area, you cant have a NEIGHBORHOOD Black school.

 

[SAME OLD G]

I'm sure you know thats not the point he's trying to make. What he's saying is when you live in a black school district and opt to send your child across town to the white school instead, there lies the problem.

No, I don't know what his point is, which is why I asked for clarifiaction.

take it for what you take it..... point is dont preach HBCU this... HBCU that when you wont even send your kids to a Black high school.

But using your logic....you are saying that I should deny my kids the opportunity of going to a school which possibly has a better learning enviroment and better facilities just because I live in a black school district that possibly lacks said enviornment and facilities? Man please!!!!

 

[unknown]

No, I don't know what his point is, which is why I asked for clarifiaction.


But using your logic....you are saying that I should deny my kids the opportunity of going to a school which possibly has a better learning enviroment and better facilities just because I live in a black school district that possibly lacks said enviornment and facilities? Man please!!!!

Youre reaching dude even I knew what he meant. And as far as facilities go, why do you think so many more blacks think like this on the college level? Shouldnt it be more to it than that? There are nice HBCU facilities but its hard to match up with PWC facilities the same as on the high school level. Think about what you just said.

 

[DAHILL]

But using your logic....you are saying that I should deny my kids the opportunity of going to a school which possibly has a better learning enviroment and better facilities just because I live in a black school district that possibly lacks said enviornment and facilities? Man please!!!!

BINGO now we getting somewhere...

Now MOST people on this thread are saying that Blacks shouldnt go to a school which POSSIBLY has a better learning environment and better facilities JUST because it is not a HBCU... even though the HBCU may lack environment and facilities.

 

[unknown]

You may want to scrap that point and try again...it didnt help your argument at all.

 

[SAME OLD G]

Youre reaching dude even I knew what he meant. And as far as facilities go, why do you think so many more blacks think like this on the college level? Shouldnt it be more to it than that? There are nice HBCU facilities but its hard to match up with PWC facilities the same as on the high school level. Think about what you just said.

My statement was not about the college level. It was related to DaHill's comment on high schools. Don't get it twisted.

 

[CriTAUcal]

And thats fine... but there is nothing wrong with attending a PWC. The thing is there are more blacks going to PWCs than HBCUs now and they of course will advise their kids against HBCUs. Thats where the disparity will come in. Either way you have a chance of getting a good or bad education either way you choose.

Of course, there is no wrong in attending a PWC, because education is a beautiful thing.
When my son turns 18, he is free to go wherever he wants, ESPECIALLY if it's free and the school is accredited. We will briefly talk about PWCs, just so he won't be clueless, BUT we will FOREVER encourage HBCUs. That's MY household.

 

[DAHILL]

My statement was not about the college level. It was related to DaHill's comment on high schools. Don't get it twisted.

ohhhhh so things CHANGE when you get to college? SOG... you are one funny character.

 

[unknown]

My statement was not about the college level. It was related to DaHill's comment on high schools. Don't get it twisted.

But the point is it transfers right over into college. You send your child away from the black school due to facilies and 'environment' but if they choose a college on that same premise which happens to be a PWC its back to the black is right theory regardless of facilities and 'environment.' I cant see the logic in that.:look:

 

[SAME OLD G]

BINGO now we getting somewhere...

Now MOST people on this thread are saying that Blacks shouldnt go to a school which POSSIBLY has a better learning environment and better facilities JUST because it is not a HBCU... even though the HBCU may lack environment and facilities.

Not sure I understand this statement.

But let say this. Trying to compare high schools to colleges is like comparing apples to oranges. You simply cannot compare the 2. The politics are completely different.

 

[unknown]

Of course, there is no wrong in attending a PWC, because education is a beautiful thing.
When my son turns 18, he is free to go wherever he wants, ESPECIALLY if it's free and the school is accredited. We will briefly talk about PWCs, just so he won't be clueless, BUT we will FOREVER encourage HBCUs. That's MY household.

Thats cool, and its to be expected because you attended an HBCU. I really wouldnt expect it to be any other way. All i'm saying is that a lot of parents now didnt attend an HBCU and it shouldnt be looked at as a negative thing for their kids to attend PWCs when they dont have any type of HBCU influence or background.

 

[DAHILL]

Of course, there is no wrong in attending a PWC, because education is a beautiful thing.
When my son turns 18, he is free to go wherever he wants, ESPECIALLY if it's free and the school is accredited. We will briefly talk about PWCs, just so he won't be clueless, BUT we will FOREVER encourage HBCUs. That's MY household.

See thats the way it SHOULD be....

I was on another board and a lady said "If My child doesnt go to Tuskegee, he wont be a penny from me to go towards tuition or expenses while he is in college"... she didnt even just say an HBCU... she stated TUSKEGEE... Im like are you fuccin crazy. Any parent should be happy that their child goes to college PERIOD. Im with Crit as long as it is accreditted, Im cool with it.

 

[unknown]

Not sure I understand this statement.

But let say this. Trying to compare high schools to colleges is like comparing apples to oranges. You simply cannot compare the 2. The politics are completely different.

You dont get it I guess. Its the message you're sending to the child by sending them to the white high school instead and then telling them that they'd better attend an HBCU because they're black. No matter how you put it the logic in that is pretty skewed.

 

[SAME OLD G]

But the point is it transfers right over into college. You send your child away from the black school due to facilies and 'environment' but if they choose a college on that same premise which happens to be a PWC its back to the black is right theory regardless of facilities and 'environment.' I cant see the logic in that.:look:

Like I said in a previous post....you can't compare high schools conditions with college conditions.

 

[DAHILL]

Not sure I understand this statement.

But let say this. Trying to compare high schools to colleges is like comparing apples to oranges. You simply cannot compare the 2. The politics are completely different.

so the statement you made can just pertain to high schools and NOT college?

 

[unknown]

Like I said in a previous post....you can't compare high schools conditions with college conditions.

I'll leave it alone since my point seems to be over your head dude.:smh:

 

[SAME OLD G]

You dont get it I guess. Its the message you're sending to the child by sending them to the white high school instead and then telling them that they'd better attend an HBCU because they're black. No matter how you put it the logic in that is pretty skewed.

No, I do get it. But what some of you fail to realize is that it is not a black/white issue. It is a socioeconomic issue...especially on the high school level. Once you can get past this, the picture become much clearer.

 

[CriTAUcal]

Thats cool, and its to be expected because you attended an HBCU. I really wouldnt expect it to be any other way. All i'm saying is that a lot of parents now didnt attend an HBCU and it shouldnt be looked at as a negative thing for their kids to attend PWCs when they dont have any type of HBCU influence or background.

You have parents who did attend HBCUs and still want their kids to go to a PWC. And that's fine for them. I don't like it, but it's whatever.


Me being openly biased, I still do see it as a negative thing to choose a PWC over a HBCU. Now there a few instances where I can totally understand if a black person picks a PWC over a HBCU. Just a few-- such as if the person can't afford out-state-tuition and their major isn't offered at the local/in-state black college but it is at the PWC in state. I can totally understand something like that.

 

[unknown]

You have parents who did attend HBCUs and still want their kids to go to a PWC. And that's fine for them. I don't like it, but it's whatever.


Me being openly biased, I still do see it as a negative thing to choose a PWC over a HBCU. Now there a few instances where I can totally understand if a black person picks a PWC over a HBCU. Just a few-- such as if the person can't afford out-state-tuition and their major isn't offered at the local/in-state black college but it is at the PWC in state. I can totally understand something like that.

Why is it negative? Is it because blacks couldnt attend PWCs 40 years ago? Because black is better, white is wrong?

 

[SAME OLD G]

I'll leave it alone...

Good idea. You are young. Live a little more and you will learn through experience that some things that appear black and white are not, but are instead green.

 

[ALPHA3]

I can understand most of the problems being presented, because my educational background from grammar to college fits right into place with the issues being discussed. Most of you have brought some of the exact same issues I was faced with.

 

[CriTAUcal]

Why is it negative? Is it because blacks couldnt attend PWCs 40 years ago? Because black is better, white is wrong?

Well, I shouldn't say it's negative. I just don't personally like it. That's just my preference. I'm very PRO HBCU and can admit I'm racist when it comes down to colleges. By no means am I saying that is the right way to be. But those are my honest feelings.

I graduated from a black university. I've worked as a newspaper reporter where I covered education for a few years, and I have worked in higher education at a black university (my alma mater), so I just have strong beliefs when it comes to HBCUs.
But please believe, I respect ANYBODY who goes back to school to get an education-- be it HBCU or PWC. I just strongly prefer HBCUs. I can respect it (a black person going to a PWC) --- but it doesn't mean I have to like it.