SMH at Alcorn State and Texas Southern ADs


jag4life said:
Hey it happens.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-north-carolina-non-conference-game/22347863/
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It's a little bit different. We're talking about rivalry games.

But with the ACC swelling to 14 members and deciding to continue with an eight-game league schedule, some traditional rivals will play each other far less frequently than they would like. That prompted discussion amongst athletics directors at last spring's conference meetings about the possibility of ACC teams scheduling each other for non-conference games.

North Carolina, for instance, is scheduled to play Wake Forest as a conference game in 2015 but not again until 2022.

The ACC schedule rotation is currently set through 2024.

"This is a unique opportunity to play a regional rival in years that fall outside the normal conference rotation," UNC athletics director Bubba Cunningham said in a release. "We have a long history with Wake Forest that has historical value and will generate interest within our fans."


In other words, instead of UNC and Wake Forest spending upwards of $1 million to fill a non-conference date with someone like Louisiana-Monroe or North Texas, they will play a more cost-effective game against a real rival, which will generate more fan interest and ticket sales.
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East Tex Tiger said:
now that I have a little more insight I have even more confidence that C Mac philosophy is the right way to go. Time will tell. Now let enjoy this women BBall victory.
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This will be the 3rd game played at the cotton bowl during state fair time, correct?
 
So TSU is playing Alcorn in a game that not going to count in the conf. standing. Okay. So what?

Come on folks. Lighten up!! DAMN!!!!
 
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bluedog said:
Clearly you don't fully understand how rankings work. Any time schools are ranked it brings up their power rating along with the conference.

Let's say Grambling , JSU , PV and Southern were all ranked in the top 25 fcs school and out of the four two were either ranked in the top ten or one in the top ten and one in the top 15..

That would push the conference power ratings between 20th and 15th. While Southern or Grambling wouldn’t be eligible to participate in the fcs playoffs JSU/PV would more than likely get an at-large-bid .

The example I just gave isn't a make believe scenario it's what happen every year jsu or Alcorn went to the playoffs because we had no automatic bid.

Again if that's all YOU'RE looking forward too and are happy with your football team not having an opportunity outside of the SCG it's cool, but for an AD as smart as McClelland not to understand the effect his action has on the rest of the conference would simply show he's being selfish and even more of a reason I'm not buying what y'all are claiming his reason are not to mention you're essentially making the Mike Haywood hire a waste .
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bluedog said:
Clearly you don't fully understand how rankings work. Any time schools are ranked it brings up their power rating along with the conference.

I understand what you are saying but from a business standpoint pushing to get into the FCS playoffs (for many of our schools) is not practical. Most of our schools are hurting for money and the FCS playoffs would only suck money out of our programs. The Celebration Bowl is a much more practical goal (financially) for our conference. I am looking at this purely from a money perspective. Bragging rights mean nothing to me....being able to pay the bills does.
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Herbert77060 said:
I am almost certain if we got an at-large bid we'd probably take it but the goal is to make money.....not lose money.
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C-LeB28 said:
Our ambition is the SWAC Championship game and the Celebration Bowl; our Plan B would of course be the FCS playoffs.
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I'm right there with both of you guys, the SCG and CB are the ultimate goal. And it should be, but all we are saying is with the negative perception the NCAA FCS folks have of the SWAC when selection time comes around, and if for some chance TSU doesn't make it to the SCG, but warrants playoff consideration, this action could be held against you. That's all we are saying.
 
TSU/BAMA said:
So TSU is playing Alcorn in a game that not going to count in the conf. standing. Okay. So what?

Come on folks. Lighten up!! DAMN!!!!
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I guess you were not around the first time the Swac tried this experiment. It was a total failure and they then went to the 9 game format. Now we are back to square 1 and it's doing the same thing all over again.

Herbert77060 said:
I am almost certain if we got an at-large bid we'd probably take it but the goal is to make money.....not lose money.
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So you're going to make money at BBVA playing Alcorn?

2015 - 2145
2013 - 4582
2011 - 2735 (Delmar)
 



Let them folks do what they want. I tell you this, if by some chance Jsu or Alcorn isn't on SU's schedule I want to play them OC. Some things shouldn't be messed with, and those games are what made Swac football. Same to be said for Gram vs Jsu and Alcorn.
 
Fiyah said:
I guess you were not around the first time the Swac tried this experiment. It was a total failure and they then went to the 9 game format. Now we are back to square 1 and it's doing the same thing all over again.



So you're going to make money at BBVA playing Alcorn?

2015 - 2145
2013 - 4582
2011 - 2735 (Delmar)
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We will handle OUR business......Trust me on that one.
 
Kenn Rashad said:
I'm right there with both of you guys, the SCG and CB are the ultimate goal. And it should be, but all we are saying is with the negative perception the NCAA FCS folks have of the SWAC when selection time comes around, and if for some chance TSU doesn't make it to the SCG, but warrants playoff consideration, this action could be held against you. That's all we are saying.
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Okay....since perception seems to be paramount here, what will be the perception when you schedule a SHSU or NoDakotaSt or any FCS school that could raise power numbers and get kicked to sleep by all of them? What then?
 
Kenn Rashad said:
I'm right there with both of you guys, the SCG and CB are the ultimate goal. And it should be, but all we are saying is with the negative perception the NCAA FCS folks have of the SWAC when selection time comes around, and if for some chance TSU doesn't make it to the SCG, but warrants playoff consideration, this action could be held against you. That's all we are saying.
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Ok
 
Herbert77060 said:
Okay....since perception seems to be paramount here, what will be the perception when you schedule a SHSU or NoDakotaSt or any FCS school that could raise power numbers and get kicked to sleep by all of them? What then?
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If that is the case, and you schedule those teams, that why you play the game. You don't know what the hell might happen. You may not get kicked to sleep.

Nobody expected Grambling to do what it did against Arizona, and despite the loss, the team's profile was elevated by national media outlets.

BUT, you definitely ain't (yes, I said "ain't") doing yourselves any favors by scheduling Alcorn.
 
Kenn Rashad said:
If that is the case, and you schedule those teams, that why you play the game. You don't know what the hell might happen. You may not get kicked to sleep.

Nobody expected Grambling to do what it did against Arizona, and despite the loss, the team's profile was elevated by national media outlets.

BUT, you definitely ain't (yes, I said "ain't") doing yourselves any favors by scheduling Alcorn.
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I expected that retort....What happened in Arizona is the same thing that happened when we jumped out to a 28-7 lead against Grambling. Fobbs said let's put an end to this foolishness and they did. Arizona said the same thing....and they did.

p.s. I was pulling for Grambling against Arizona.
 
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Sooooooooo @Kenn Rashad , how do you feel about Gram AD now that you are playing JSU in a non conference game?

I mean you spoke so highly as if Gram didn't have to do this type of scheduling this year. You made it seem as if Alcorn and TXSU did something NOBODY else would do this year. But low and damn behold, your school is doing the same thing.
 
goodolebrave said:
Sooooooooo @Kenn Rashad , how do you feel about Gram AD now that you are playing JSU in a non conference game?

I mean you spoke so highly as if Gram didn't have to do this type of scheduling this year. You made it seem as if Alcorn and TXSU did something NOBODY else would do this year. But low and damn behold, your school is doing the same thing.
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Well, first, it wasn't "Gram's AD" who scheduled the game.

My position on this matter is well documented. Don't let my affiliation to Grambling fool you. The criticism I had for Alcorn and TSU for scheduling each other is no different than that I have of GSU and J-State. I called it "ass-backwards" then. I'm calling it "ass-backwards" now.
 
Kenn Rashad said:
Well, first, it wasn't "Gram's AD" who scheduled the game.

My position on this matter is well documented. Don't let my affiliation to Grambling fool you. The criticism I had for Alcorn and TSU for scheduling each other is no different than that I have of GSU and J-State. I called it "ass-backwards" then. I'm calling it "ass-backwards" now.
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So who is to blame GSU/JSU AD? Cause as of last week JSU was "working" on a game with Gram. And now Gram has a game with JSU. Non conference that is. So somebody at Gram had to say ok.

So who is to blame? Cause you damn sure tried to place blame on Alcorn and TXSO ADs when damn near, I didn't say all, but damn near everyone in the SWAC is playing a non conference game against someone in the conference.

And yes, your affiliation with Gram does fool me due to quite a few articles with a stong lean toward Gram being detected. You rarely even do basketball articles. Is that due to Gram position in basketball? IJS. ;)
 
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