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Suge said:
I don't think the dems have worthwhile candidates, it is just the fact that the country is very sour on the GOP right now and any democrat has a chanc e to win.

As for Hilary, I'm sorry, but I can not, and will not ever vote for a woman to be the president. And on the joint ticket issue, why should Obama take a backseat to Clinton, she should be the VP on his ticket, if you ask me. Experience wise, they are about even. Being the Fist Lady doen't qualify as political experience in my opinion.
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She is a senator you know.
 
Why some Demos worry that she can't win.



She's a celebrity with an impressive r?sum?, major-league supporters and five consecutive years of being the Gallup Poll's "most admired woman." Yet as New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton plunges into the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, she faces resistance from fellow Democrats who don't like her, don't like her positions on issues or don't think she can win
 



jag4life said:
I agree.... he should run to WIN, not to be a running mate. If she gets the nomination and offers him the position, take it, but don't run with the mindset of taking a back seat.
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Whoever is running should be running to WIN. If they are running to WIN, they better have in mind
J-State Tiger said:
It would not make any sense for her to pick Obama as a running mate, because he doesnt bring any votes to the ticket that she isnt going to get anyway.
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That's politics. It's a matter of what can your running mate do for you... how can they put you in a better position to win that you are.
 
Strategy wise Hillary/Obama on the same ticket will be tough to beat. From a political strategy stand point Obama should be the VP. Great cross over apeal. If Obama wins the Dem nominaion his lack of experience will be overplayed by the media and will hurt.

Based on who is officially running my ticket choices ares

1. Clinton/Obama
2. Edwards/Obama
3. Obama/Edwards
4. Edwards/Richardson
5. Clinton/Kucinich
 
Suge said:
I take it you didn't read the sentence before that where I was discussing her political experience vs. Obama's. That is what the first lady comment was in reference to.
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My bad...I misread that. However, it still is not right. Clinton clearly has more experience. She clearly was more than just "the first lady" while Bill was in office.
 
This is definitely going to be an interesting presidential race, that's for sure. Don't know if either of these two have a chance in hell to win, but hey, it'll be interesting, to say the least.
 
This race in both parties will be interesting. But Mrs. Clinton is too close to the DLC for me. For instance, while Biden and Edwards, who both voted for the Iraq war resolution, have said that they made a mistake, Senator Clinton refuses to say that she made a mistake. Understand that the major issue for the democrats winning the Congress was Iraq.

With Clinton being tied to the DLC, I expect candidates like Edwards to speak up for the poor and working class more often. If that happens I will take Edwards over Clinton.

While I know that Obama has progressive roots going back to his days in Chicago, I will wait and see what he will have to offer on the campaign trail. But right now I will say that he needs to stay away from Joe Lieberman.

Understand that in political terms, 2008 is a long ways away.
 
Warndalyn said:
This is definitely going to be an interesting presidential race, that's for sure. Don't know if either of these two have a chance in hell to win, but hey, it'll be interesting, to say the least.
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You talking about splitting the vote.
 
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Anyway DSN,... I'm looking at the view that both would run as Democrats where you would have the women and Blacks with candidates that would draw huge support for that reason alone.
 
Why you rolling your eyes? People all over keep talking about splitting the vote... only one candidate can be nominated for the election.
 



Why are Hillary and Obama the 2 who yall are worried will split votes? Do they have the same supporters? They are both democrat... what else? Who would be the other guy that gets votes over either of them?
 
Suge said:
I don't think the dems have worthwhile candidates, it is just the fact that the country is very sour on the GOP right now and any democrat has a chanc e to win.

As for Hilary, I'm sorry, but I can not, and will not ever vote for a woman to be the president. And on the joint ticket issue, why should Obama take a backseat to Clinton, she should be the VP on his ticket, if you ask me. Experience wise, they are about even. Being the First Lady doen't qualify as political experience in my opinion.
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I think these are the best candidates the Dems have had in a while. The country is disinfranchised with the GOP true enough but, these are solid candidates that CAN WIN and I think on election day "the masses will be heard" and a Dem will be president.

I never said Obama should take a back seat to anyone. I said an Obama/Clinton ticket would win
 
jag4life said:
Why are Hillary and Obama the 2 who yall are worried will split votes? Do they have the same supporters? They are both democrat... what else? Who would be the other guy that gets votes over either of them?
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I think they mean splitting the black vote which make up a sizable portion of Democratic primary voters - particularly in the Southern states. Assuming that does happen, it could open the door for someone like John Edwards.
 
One is black and one is white..... THATS A HUGE DIFFERENCE in America irregardless of their personal politics.
 
JSU/99 said:
I think they mean splitting the black vote which make up a sizable portion of Democratic primary voters - particularly in the Southern states. Assuming that does happen, it could open the door for someone like John Edwards.
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If John Edwards wins the nomination it will not be because the black vote was split. Heck, he didn't win last time.
 
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