Sheffield says Latin players easier to control than blacks


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The percentage of African-Americans playing Major League Baseball is at an all-time low and Gary Sheffield says he has a theory why that's the case.

In an interview with GQ magazine that's currently on newsstands, the typically outspoken Tigers designated hitter said Latin players have replaced African-Americans as baseball's most prevalent minority because they are easier to control.

"I called it years ago. What I called is that you're going to see more black faces, but there ain't no English going to be coming out. ? [It's about] being able to tell [Latin players] what to do -- being able to control them," he told the magazine.

"Where I'm from, you can't control us. You might get a guy to do it that way for a while because he wants to benefit, but in the end, he is going to go back to being who he is. And that's a person that you're going to talk to with respect, you're going to talk to like a man.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2891875
 



I think Sheffield is right. Latin players come into MLB with no leverage. They are willing to sign with a team for bread crums because most of them come from poor backgrounds. Plus, you see many MLB teams establishing camps in Latin American countries to develop players at a cheap price.

I know a lot of black players are in a similar position, but scouts don't look at it that way. Why do you think so many of those Cuban players risk being banned from the country to play MLB? Some of those guys can never go back, and some of their families will never see them again because of that issue. Latin players will do anything to play MLB because there is nothing else for them. Black kids can play football, basketball, have a 9 to 5 or go to college. A Latin player who speaks little English and only is skilled in baseball can't do that.
 
The percentage of African-Americans playing Major League Baseball is at an all-time low and Gary Sheffield says he has a theory why that's the case.

In an interview with GQ magazine that's currently on newsstands, the typically outspoken Tigers designated hitter said Latin players have replaced African-Americans as baseball's most prevalent minority because they are easier to control.

"I called it years ago. What I called is that you're going to see more black faces, but there ain't no English going to be coming out. ? [It's about] being able to tell [Latin players] what to do -- being able to control them," he told the magazine.

"Where I'm from, you can't control us. You might get a guy to do it that way for a while because he wants to benefit, but in the end, he is going to go back to being who he is. And that's a person that you're going to talk to with respect, you're going to talk to like a man.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2891875
Of course he is right. If we are honest with ourselves we have to admit that and admit that the problem is internal to us.
 
Gee, I thought it was because more American black atheletes come up playing basketball and football as their main sport now. I'm glad Sheff was there to clear up that misconception and tell me it's really all about Whitey being about to "control" Latins.
 
Gee, I thought it was because more American black atheletes come up playing basketball and football as their main sport now. I'm glad Sheff was there to clear up that misconception and tell me it's really all about Whitey being about to "control" Latins.
You are right, but add that baseball the only white sports baston left. They are not going to lose that. They know that blacks may skip practice, choke the coach, get shot, shot someone, etc. they want to keep blacks out. The wording was off "control" but that is what it means.
 
You are right, but add that baseball the only white sports baston left. They are not going to lose that. They know that blacks may skip practice, choke the coach, get shot, shot someone, etc. they want to keep blacks out. The wording was off "control" but that is what it means.

I don't think MLB teams want to keep African-Americans out due to fear of violence and misconduct. But Sheffield should be the last one talking about control. While playing for the Brewers 15 years ago, he admitted making errors on purpose so he could get traded. Like I said before, MLB teams can get Latin players cheaper than black players.
 
The percentage of African-Americans playing Major League Baseball is at an all-time low and Gary Sheffield says he has a theory why that's the case.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2891875

How bout just admitting the truth.:nod:

BLACK KID'S DON'T GAF ABOUT PLAYING BASEBALL AS A WHOLE................NOT EVEN 1/4.
If they do, it's just something that will keep them in shape for football or basketball season. :nod:
 
How bout just admitting the truth.:nod:

BLACK KID'S DON'T GAF ABOUT PLAYING BASEBALL AS A WHOLE................NOT EVEN 1/4.
If they do, it's just something that will keep them in shape for football or basketball season. :nod:

1. They don't see a bunch of African-Americans playing the MLB.

2. Parents don't care about the game either. So they won't sign their kids up for Little League or even take them to a baseball game. I have gone to a bunch of Sox and Cubs games and you don't see many black people there at all. That is a shame.

3.And we always say baseball is a white sport. Football and basketball was once dominated by white players and things changed. I don't understand why the black community is not determined to do the same with baseball like Latin Americans have.
 
Whether true or not (which I don't think it is true)...Sheff doesn't need to speak on it. If his theory was depended soley on him....they'd have a reason to think that.

If it were someone like Tori Hunter (Minn. Twins CF)...I'd listen closer.



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Can you say Beckham. Did you see his money he is making. Unreal for soccer hell I hope my son think about soccer. LOL


Can you say Brazil and Manchester United/EUROPE .
CROFT84...............I told you years ago that soccor players were some of the highest paid atheletes in the world.:emlaugh:
 



They can make Big money in soccer all over the world. That's why the best in the world do NOT play in the US.
 
I coach baseball, there is alot of truth to what Sheff is saying especially when it comes to young players. If you guys knew how much time MLB spends in Latin America ya'll would be amazed.
 
Sheffield: Torre treated blacks and whites differently

By TIM BOOTH, Associated Press Writer
July 13, 2007

SEATTLE (AP) -- Detroit slugger Gary Sheffield had an idyllic view of the New York Yankees when he joined the team before the 2004 season.

Sheffield also had a strong friendship and trust with Barry Bonds when he went to California and to train with the slugger one offseason.

Those opinions quickly changed, and once again, Sheffield isn't shying away from sharing his thoughts.

The latest controversy surrounding Sheffield surfaced Friday, with comments he made to HBO's Real Sports, in an episode scheduled to air Tuesday night. Sheffield had strong words for Yankees' manager Joe Torre and shortstop Derek Jeter, as well as Bonds.

"They came to me, they asked me certain questions and whatever you ask me I'm going to answer," Sheffield said before Friday night's game in Seattle. "Whether you like it or not I'm going to answer."

Sheffield's strongest opinions were about the Yankees and Torre. Sheffield said Friday he felt disrespected from the time he arrived in New York, claiming early in his New York tenure that Torre said the Yankees should have instead acquired Vladimir Guerrero.

"When you're hearing that from your manager when you are out there busting your butt for him, that's disrespectful," Sheffield said. "But no one came to my defense to say it was disrespectful."

Sheffield claims black and white players in the Yankees clubhouse were treated differently, specifically how players Tony Womack and Kenny Lofton were handled by Torre. In the interview with HBO, Sheffield says the black players on the Yankees' roster would be "called out" in the clubhouse by Torre, while the white players would be called into Torre's office to discuss matters.

"I think it's a, a way of, the way they do things around there, you know," Sheffield told Real Sports. "They run their ship differently."

Sheffield's comments to HBO were first reported by Newsday. Before Friday night's game against Tampa Bay, Torre had little to say about Sheffield's comments.

"I just don't even want to answer those types of questions because I feel comfort not answering," Torre said.

In the visiting clubhouse at Safeco Field, Sheffield stood behind what he said to HBO -- that Torre is not a racist -- but also tried to clarify some statements. In the piece, when it was mentioned that the Yankees' most prominent player -- Derek Jeter -- is black, Sheffield quickly clarified that Jeter is "black and white."

When asked the significance of that, Sheffield said, "It's really no significance. It's just you ain't all the way black."

On Friday, Sheffield said he and the Yankees shortstop were best friends on the team, and that Sheffield's son is also of mixed race.

"They're trying to make it a problem with him, when my son is the same. I'd say the same thing about my son," Sheffield said. "No one knows he's black until they look at the back of his jersey and see 'Sheffield."'

Jeter declined comment.

Sheffield also addressed his past relationship with San Francisco slugger Barry Bonds. The two spent an offseason working out together in California after Bonds hit his record 73 homers during the 2001 season.

Sheffield denied to HBO that he ever took steroids, but admitted to taking the "clear" and the "cream" -- two designer steroids created by BALCO. Sheffield said he didn't know they were steroids, claiming, "In a million years I don't care what nobody say. Steroids is something you shoot in your butt. You know, I do know that."

Sheffield told HBO he trusted Bonds, and said he felt himself being controlled by Bonds. But, Sheffield claimed, "if I took what Barry Bonds took, why don't I look like him?"

On Friday, Sheffield said he doesn't speak with Bonds.

"We don't have no communication," Sheffield said. "I love and respect Barry to this day. I had a problem with him at that time, but I moved on and forgave."

Sheffield is in his first season with the Tigers and leads the team with 21 homers and is hitting .309. The Tigers started Friday with a 1/2 -game lead over Cleveland in the AL Central division. Manager Jim Leyland didn't anticipate Sheffield's comments being an issue.

"I don't care what he says," Leyland said. "He's a grown man."

And, as for the atmosphere in Detroit versus New York?

"It's totally different, because we don't see race," Sheffield said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...cB?slug=ap-tigers-sheffield&prov=ap&type=lgns
 
I coach baseball, there is alot of truth to what Sheff is saying especially when it comes to young players. If you guys knew how much time MLB spends in Latin America ya'll would be amazed.


Hmmm...thats interesting, bigtyme.

Do you think it has more to do with YOUNG latin players

or just latin players in general?
 
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