Seems Somebody Might Have Dropped The Ball At FAMU


THAMES

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http://www.onnidan.com/03-04/news/august/famu0811.htm

OOPS! ... Shouldn't this have been checked out before hand?

NCAA Gives Thumbs Down on Willie Simmons, Four Other FAMU Football Transfers
August 11, 2003

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - The NCAA has informed Florida A&M University that five major college transfers, including former Clemson quarterback Willie Simmons, would not be eligible for play in 2003.

Florida A&M, whose application for Division 1-A status in football was approved by the NCAA July 21, lost waiver appeals on the five players because they had not established the required one year of residency (i.e. - sitting out one year).

FAMU Interim Athletic Director Dr. J.R.E. Lee, III commented Monday evening, saying: "While we had success in obtaining waivers for some players, unfortunately, we were denied on five others. Four of those five players will be eligible for play in 2004."

Simmons, a native of nearby Quincy, Fla., who started eight games last season for the Tigers and holds a degree in Marketing from Clemson, will not have any remaining eligibility beyond 2003.

Waivers were also denied on Josh Driscoll (Fort Smith, Ark.), a transfer quarterback from Arkansas State; J.R. Mounts (Key West, Fla.), a transfer running back from the University of Miami; Ronnie Thomas (Quincy, Fla.), a wide receiver from Clemson and Dexter Wallace (Williston, Fla.), a defensive lineman from Bowling Green.

Assistant AD for Compliance Jonathan Evans commented Monday evening: "I was happy for the players whose waivers were approved and of course it goes without saying that we are disappointed for the players who were denied.

"I will receive official written notification in a week to 10 days and I, along with the university administration will evaluate the decision to see if an appeal to the NCAA Administrative Review Subcommittee is warranted," Evans said.

Meanwhile, four other players were cleared for play this season, including Tampa linebacker Chris Buie (Virginia Tech) and Bradenton defensive back Julius Ware (Indiana), who are in camp.

The two remaining players whose waivers were approved have transferred to other Division 1-AA programs - Charles Simpson to Bethune-Cookman and Rod Olds to Jacksonville (Ala.) State.
 
I'll be doggone if the NCAA didn't knock out two of the quarterbacks that FAM was counting on for this season.
It appears that this would have been a better move after this season was over.Hindsight is 20/20.
 



I dont know that it will improve JSU chances of winning. Your program is defeated before walking on the field when you avoid/run away from a team like you all have from FAMU. Your AD should have let you all play through that slump you all were having against them.
 
Originally posted by JROCK
I dont know that it will improve JSU chances of winning. Your program is defeated before walking on the field when you avoid/run away from a team like you all have from FAMU. Your AD should have let you all play through that slump you all were having against them.

Slump ..... :rolleyes: ...... and we still have a winning record against them .......... so we ran .........bla bla bla bla ......:D
 
Originally posted by JROCK
I dont know that it will improve JSU chances of winning. Your program is defeated before walking on the field when you avoid/run away from a team like you all have from FAMU. Your AD should have let you all play through that slump you all were having against them.

When did JSU run from FAMU? I think you have us confused with SU.
 
They should have had them enrolled in summer school that way they could have been eligible before the D1A application was approved. It's just part of the bumps they will encounter on their D1A football endeavor. They still need to be commended for what they are doing. :tup:
 
Originally posted by Fiyah
They should have had them enrolled in summer school that way they could have been eligible before the D1A application was approved. It's just part of the bumps they will encounter on their D1A football endeavor. They still need to be commended for what they are doing. :tup:

I believe Simmons enrolled last Spring and played in their Spring game. The NCAA is saying that since their application for 1A has been approved they now must play by 1A rules, i.e., transfers from 1A must sit out a year.
 
Originally posted by JROCK
I dont know that it will improve JSU chances of winning. Your program is defeated before walking on the field when you avoid/run away from a team like you all have from FAMU. Your AD should have let you all play through that slump you all were having against them.

You know I really dont like to address you but:
Arent you the one that cries and moans about smack on the Sports Borad?
 
Originally posted by Get Ready
You know I really dont like to address you but:
Arent you the one that cries and moans about smack on the Sports Borad?

:shh: None of these simp's do that .................... We, JSU, are the only Haters and Smackers here.......... :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Get Ready
You know I really dont like to address you but:
Arent you the one that cries and moans about smack on the Sports Borad?

You know I dont like to respond to you but:

It is true that your non conference schedule in the past excluded decent teams (with the exception of TNST). I dont see any smack in the fact that you all have been avoiding good non conference teams. You all have not played a nationally 1-AA oponent in over 6 years. When you played the 1-A game you got smashed and only beat d-2 New Haven by 1 point. Then your program traveled to the d-2 program. Dont put the truth on smack.
 
Originally posted by JROCK
You know I dont like to respond to you but:

It is true that your non conference schedule in the past excluded decent teams (with the exception of TNST). I dont see any smack in the fact that you all have been avoiding good non conference teams. You all have not played a nationally 1-AA oponent in over 6 years. When you played the 1-A game you got smashed and only beat d-2 New Haven by 1 point. Then your program traveled to the d-2 program. Dont put the truth on smack.

This is not true. A&T and TNState were both nationally ranked opponents. Our non-conference opponents in the last 6 years have only been TNState, A&T, USM, and Howard (which we started a series with in 1997 when they were nationally ranked). We signed A&T when they were ranked as well. New Haven was D2 but only playing D1-AA non conference teams like Youngstown State, Elon, Western Kentucky and JSU. They would have kicked SU to sleep.
 



Originally posted by Tigerpride
This is not true. A&T and TNState were both nationally ranked opponents. Our non-conference opponents in the last 6 years have only been TNState, A&T, USM, and Howard (which we started a series with in 1997 when they were nationally ranked). We signed A&T when they were ranked as well. New Haven was D2 but only playing D1-AA non conference teams like Youngstown State, Elon, Western Kentucky and JSU. They would have kicked SU to sleep.

This is a weak non conference schedule. The only team above worth their salt is USM. And the spin about who your non-conference weak teams played does not work. Trying to associate you non conference weak teams strenghth by association with whom they played other than you is delusional and myopic at best.
 
Originally posted by Fiyah
They should have had them enrolled in summer school that way they could have been eligible before the D1A application was approved. It's just part of the bumps they will encounter on their D1A football endeavor. They still need to be commended for what they are doing. :tup:

After some initial "guidance" from one NCAA person that said any 1-A transfer enrolled by June 30th is OK, the NCAA reversed itself and said that since we applied for 1-A, all 1-A rules were applied retroactively, thus the 1-A transfers we had in school for back in Jan. '03 for Spring semester (QB-Josh Driscoll, Ark. State, RB-JR Mounts-Miami, DE-Dexter Wallace, Bowling Green) and a few of the ones who enrolled before the application was submitted (Willie Simmons, etc.) got the :tdown: I think the uncertainty of the NCAA decision scared off 11 more 1-A kids who verbally committed to transfering.
 
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