Seems like an athlete finally comes out of the closet.....


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So,when Tebow got all that attention in college and in the pros because he professed his faith(even though he wasn't the first athlete or even accomplished athlete to do so) that wasn't attention whoring? How about when Pat Summitt announced she had a degenerative disease? What about dudes who announce what schools they're going to?

Yeah some of what you posted was. I don't think MackG is saying that Tebow's deal wasn't attention whoring either. He is just pointing out this one instance with Collins and Collins only. He didn't compare it to anything or anybody else Kendrick.

BTW, I don't think Pat Summitt's deal is attention whoring. She got sick and had to retire so it is a story. Your faith or your sexual preference should not be in my opinion.
 
Yeah some of what you posted was. I don't think MackG is saying that Tebow's deal wasn't attention whoring either. He is just pointing out this one instance with Collins and Collins only. He didn't compare it to anything or anybody else Kendrick.

BTW, I don't think Pat Summitt's deal is attention whoring. She got sick and had to retire so it is a story. Your faith or your sexual preference should not be in my opinion.

My point is that anybody who announces anything is seeking some sort of attention. Being as such, how do we determine what is attention whoring and what is not? If anything, this is not about Jason Collins. This is about us. It is about how we are going to respond and react to these announcements. This is about advancing the discussion.
 



My point is that anybody who announces anything is seeking some sort of attention. Being as such, how do we determine what is attention whoring and what is not? If anything, this is not about Jason Collins. This is about us. It is about how we are going to respond and react to these announcements. This is about advancing the discussion.

Us?...........Ain't about US.
Dude just decided not to tell nobody but he could have started by tellIing his ex-girlfriend / fiance of 7 years instead of doing all this "down-low" shat. When is he gonna apologize for wasting 7 years of her life since, BY HIS OWN WORDS, he "been Gay" or known he was gay since college.

As for reaction, we all know that only the people that DONT APPROVE will be hounded and vilified.........NOT HIM. So if you do say something, it better be politically correct with no hint of disapproval. The media will crush anybody that say anything otherwise.

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former WNBA player Carolyn Moos

Report: Collins' ex stunned by news
Jason Collins stunned everyone Monday, when he revealed that he is gay in a personal essay in Sports Illustrated. And by everyone, we mean everyone — even his ex-fiancee, according to one report.

According to the gossip website TMZ, Collins, who most recently played for the Washington Wizards, dated former WNBA player Carolyn Moos for seven years, and the two were engaged before breaking up in 2009.

Moos played on the women’s team at Stanford while Collins was a member of the Cardinal men’s team. She was drafted by the Phoenix Mercury in the fourth round of the 2001 WNBA Draft
 
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Us?...........Ain't about US.
Dude just decided not to tell nobody but he could have started by tellIing his ex-girlfriend / fiance of 7years instead of doing all this "down-low" shat.

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former WNBA player Carolyn Moos

Report: Collins' ex stunned by news
Jason Collins stunned everyone Monday, when he revealed that he is gay in a personal essay in Sports Illustrated. And by everyone, we mean everyone — even his ex-fiancee, according to one report.

According to the gossip website TMZ, Collins, who most recently played for the Washington Wizards, dated former WNBA player Carolyn Moos for seven years, and the two were engaged before breaking up in 2009.

Moos played on the women’s team at Stanford while Collins was a member of the Cardinal men’s team. She was drafted by the Phoenix Mercury in the fourth round of the 2001 WNBA Draft

Uh oh...:emlaugh:
 
Us?...........Ain't about US.
Dude just decided not to tell nobody but he could have started by tellIing his ex-girlfriend / fiance of 7 years instead of doing all this "down-low" shat. When is he gonna apologize for wasting 7 years of her life since, BY HIS OWN WORDS, he "been Gay" or known he was gay since college.

As for reaction, we all know that only the people that DONT APPROVE will be hounded and vilified.........NOT HIM. So if you do say something, it better be politically correct with no hint of disapproval. The media will crush anybody that say anything otherwise.

CarolynMoos_20130430123059524_660_320.JPG

former WNBA player Carolyn Moos

Report: Collins' ex stunned by news
Jason Collins stunned everyone Monday, when he revealed that he is gay in a personal essay in Sports Illustrated. And by everyone, we mean everyone — even his ex-fiancee, according to one report.

According to the gossip website TMZ, Collins, who most recently played for the Washington Wizards, dated former WNBA player Carolyn Moos for seven years, and the two were engaged before breaking up in 2009.

Moos played on the women’s team at Stanford while Collins was a member of the Cardinal men’s team. She was drafted by the Phoenix Mercury in the fourth round of the 2001 WNBA Draft

Like I said, this might be staged.
 
Like I said, this might be staged.

Shat...........He gay.
He just one of them mofo's that has been on the "down low" fooling mofo's. You don't "come out" and say you been gay and hiding it for over a decade if you don't mean it. There are so many men out there that wake up on "T & A" every morning but as soon as they turn a corner, they ready to be someone elses A, slurping on a human banana that it ain't even funny no more. This ain't no secret.

That is why I don't see how these women love these soft, fingernail polish, and nut hugger pants wearing, feminine men. Guess they in dis-belief or something when all the signs are right in front of their faces. Then they get mad when they find out they been played. It was "easier" for this guy to fool mofos because he was 7 feet tall, dang near 300lbs, and had the money to keep up a front. His twin brother didn't even know for sure until last year when he said he str8 out asked him.
 
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JR, there are a bunch of women married to these dudes for a life time and don't know. :lol:
I tend to wonder about this myself. It does make you say hmm. 7 years is a long time to date and not know something is not right.
 
Still trying to figure how is he the first when Dennis Rodman wore a wedding dress. If that didn't tell it all, the world must be blind. I don't know to any straight bruh who will wear a wedding dress. Do yall? :lol:
 
Still trying to figure how is he the first when Dennis Rodman wore a wedding dress. If that didn't tell it all, the world must be blind. I don't know to any straight bruh who will wear a wedding dress. Do yall? :lol:

Didn't Dennis Rodman damm near admit it while he was playing, talking about he don't see a difference between men and women when hes out clubbing? He had been openly hanging with gay dudes his entire Chicago carear. When he hooked up with Madonna, his gay scene clowning really took off. :lol:
 
Still trying to figure how is he the first when Dennis Rodman wore a wedding dress. If that didn't tell it all, the world must be blind. I don't know to any straight bruh who will wear a wedding dress. Do yall? :lol:

If a mofo offer you a few millions to wear a wedding dress on national T.V., would you do it or turn down that money? :lol:
 
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Didn't Dennis Rodman damm near admit it while he was playing, talking about he don't see a difference between men and women when hes out clubbing? He had been openly hanging with gay dudes his entire Chicago carear. When he hooked up with Madonna, his gay scene clowning really took off. :lol:
 
I agree with 83, tell the people who really care, like family and people who are close to you. The media acts like it's us that reports and talk about this on a daily basis. Of course we are going to talk about it if the media puts it out there. It's sad man...
 
I would be one broke dude. :lol: No way I could sell my dignity to wear a dress. :lol:

That's what you say now, but if someone offer you a few millions, you'll probably be the first one to roller blade through West Hollywood in a long white wedding dress singing, "I'm Coming Out". :lol: :emlaugh:
 



Now he has to realize in this POLITICAL correct society that anything you say when you are a celebrity, media personality etc.. that it can come back to bite you in the arse job wise. I would keep my religious comments to myself. It ain't worth it. Plus like no one needs to know is Collins is gay or not, no one needs to know his PUBLIC opinion about his religious beliefs. I like Broussard, but he may have cause himself some grief especially out there on the Left Coast. LOL.

I'm black and I'm str8.
Can I get some press, talk show tour, extra money in my paycheck now? :goof:

This is something that he should've kept to himself. He is obligated to play ball not air out his personal life. I could care less what he does at home, just go out there and hoop!

I think this is attention whoring to the highest degree. They're turning a marginal role playing free agent into a martyr. NEXT

I agree with 83, tell the people who really care, like family and people who are close to you. The media acts like it's us that reports and talk about this on a daily basis. Of course we are going to talk about it if the media puts it out there. It's sad man...

Man...I am so-cosigning on all of these comments.

I swear...this "coming out" shit bothers me like nothing else. It has been said time and time again that society has become more tolerant of gay and lesbian people. And if we, now more than ever, are more tolerant of the LGBT community what is the benefit of coming out now. What do you gain by doing so...other than the PR attention that comes with it?

And then you have people on the social network saying shit like, "he can finally live his life in peace now" or in the case of Kobe "Don't suffocate who u r because of the ignorance of others" or dumb shit from Bruce Bowen "Really hope people will RESPECT Jason Collins for his decision to come out. Just glad he can now relax and not be afraid to be who he is."

Really Bruce Bowen? Collins wasn't afraid of being who he was BEFORE he told the world. That's a bunch of bullshit.
 
Why is it that these folk seem to be the biggest attention whores? I mean really, why does it have to become some type of spectacle simply because they're gay? The dudes in our office are the same way..feel the name to make it some type of event that they like men. WHO CARES
 
Man...I am so-cosigning on all of these comments.

I swear...this "coming out" shit bothers me like nothing else. It has been said time and time again that society has become more tolerant of gay and lesbian people. And if we, now more than ever, are more tolerant of the LGBT community what is the benefit of coming out now. What do you gain by doing so...other than the PR attention that comes with it?

And then you have people on the social network saying shit like, "he can finally live his life in peace now" or in the case of Kobe "Don't suffocate who u r because of the ignorance of others" or dumb shit from Bruce Bowen "Really hope people will RESPECT Jason Collins for his decision to come out. Just glad he can now relax and not be afraid to be who he is."

Really Bruce Bowen? Collins wasn't afraid of being who he was BEFORE he told the world. That's a bunch of bullshit.

Beacuse there are an untold number of people who are afraid to come out (even though America has become more tolerant) due to the tremendous stigma associated with such a lifestyle.

And it wasn't like Jason Collins held a press conference to make his announcement or went on Oprah or some talk show. He wrote a piece about it in SI. It wasn't a spectacle at all. Now, you know how the modern media is. Of course a dude coming out is going to get a tremendous amount of attention.

Finally, how does a person making such an announcement affect you personally?

I mean, we live in an age of social media and reality television where people farther down the totem pole than Jason Collins divulge all sorts of personal info to the masses without discretion.
 
Beacuse there are an untold number of people who are afraid to come out (even though America has become more tolerant) due to the tremendous stigma associated with such a lifestyle.

One can't have it both ways. If one feels the need to go public about his/her PRIVATE business - in this case sexual orientation - then he/she has to be prepared to face whatever public response they are dealt. Life isn't easy or fair for ANYONE.

And it wasn't like Jason Collins held a press conference to make his announcement or went on Oprah or some talk show. He wrote a piece about it in SI. It wasn't a spectacle at all. Now, you know how the modern media is. Of course a dude coming out is going to get a tremendous amount of attention.

Oh you better believe it was a spectacle from a media stand point. SI is a major publication with a huge reach. And for Collins to have the chance to write a first-person essay for such a major publication is just as good, if not better, than coming out on a show like Oprah. And let's not talk about the TV interview he did with George Stephanopoulos on ABC the very next day.

Finally, how does a person making such an announcement affect you personally?

Personally, it doesn't affect me one bit. However, because Collins made the decision to make this information PUBLIC - with the intent to garner social acceptance - I have a right to speak on it.

I mean, we live in an age of social media and reality television where people farther down the totem pole than Jason Collins divulge all sorts of personal info to the masses without discretion.

Not true! Whatever the given topic or theme of the moment is for those who divulge such information about themselves is subject for debate. Most people who are openly gay likely didn't have the benefit of going to SI to tell the world. Chances are they only told the people who are close to them (family and friends). Collins admitted in his essay that he wants this "conversation" to be a public one. He admitted that he had already told his family he is gay. He stated that his family still loves him and accepts him for who he is. That is ALL that should matter. But no...he wanted to make history. He wanted the attention that comes with being the first active professional athlete to come out of the closet. Guess what...mission accomplished.

And because he is now "out of the closet", there is now discussion on whether or not he will get to play for another NBA team. And whether or not his "gay-ness" will be a factor in that decision for NBA teams. Such speculation to me sound like a step back for the cause.
 
One can't have it both ways. If one feels the need to go public about his/her PRIVATE business - in this case sexual orientation - then he/she has to be prepared to face whatever public response they are dealt. Life isn't easy or fair for ANYONE.



Oh you better believe it was a spectacle from a media stand point. SI is a major publication with a huge reach. And for Collins to have the chance to write a first-person essay for such a major publication is just as good, if not better, than coming out on a show like Oprah. And let's not talk about the TV interview he did with George Stephanopoulos on ABC the very next day.



Personally, it doesn't affect me one bit. However, because Collins made the decision to make this information PUBLIC - with the intent to garner social acceptance - I have a right to speak on it.



Not true! Whatever the given topic or theme of the moment is for those who divulge such information about themselves is subject for debate. Most people who are openly gay likely didn't have the benefit of going to SI to tell the world. Chances are they only told the people who are close to them (family and friends). Collins admitted in his essay that he wants this "conversation" to be a public one. He admitted that he had already told his family he is gay. He stated that his family still loves him and accepts him for who he is. That is ALL that should matter. But no...he wanted to make history. He wanted the attention that comes with being the first active professional athlete to come out of the closet. Guess what...mission accomplished.

And because he is now "out of the closet", there is now discussion on whether or not he will get to play for another NBA team. And whether or not his "gay-ness" will be a factor in that decision for NBA teams. Such speculation to me sound like a step back for the cause.

1. SOG, you're missing the point. I'm not saying one shouldn't have an opinion on one's very being. I'm just explaining that marginalization and fear of scorn, violence and ostracization (compared to any other lifestyle) is the reason why many homosexuals are scared to make such announcements in the first place.

2. I agree that the media has done what the media does. However, the press makes a spectacle out almost of everything.

3. And there is nothing wrong with him desiring social acceptance. That's part of the reason he came out in the first place. It is part of the reason why anyone backs or promotes any cause or issue.

4. What's wrong with attempting to make history? What's wrong with attempting to create social change? In a perfect world, if only your family and friends loved and accepted who you are as a person, it would be gravy. But, we don't dwell in such a world. EVERYBODY craves acceptance from others outside of their family at some level to validate their own existence. It's part of the reason why people join frats, sororities, clubs or buy certain clothing, cars, homes, electronics etc. And we have to factor in discrimination in all this as well. Folks will go out of their way to make your life difficult because your existence doesn't meld with theirs.

5. It doesn't hurt at all. It forces everyone (the leagues, coaches, players, fans and owners) to examine themselves, their beliefs, and everything that encompasses sport and how sexuality fits in to the equation. I'll wrap this up by saying that sport, in many ways, has historically been the testing ground for social experiments. Race, religion, the role of women, civil rights and labor. Activism has played a huge role in sport. It's teams and players have been used as tools to usher along social change or start important conversations. This issue with Jason Collins is no different.
 
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