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As I watched the NBA All-Star game and it's acknowledgement of HBCU's I couldn't stop to think that every player participating is a multimillionaire. What if, yes, what if each All-Star participant contributed 1 million dollars to a selected HBCU. And what if each NBA and NFL player (African American) adopted a HBCU and donated a percentage of their salary to these institutions. Is that too much to ask. Considering the mindset of today's players.............maybe it is.
 
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I don't expect them to as they didn't attend one. Some wanted to and had family to attend like a Chris Paul but whatever reason they were pulled to a PWI. Now the PWI doesn't do much for them culturally so they'll lean on an aHBCU to make up for lost time socially so you gotta vet them real good to see if hits sincere
 
Jag-at-War said:
As I watched the NBA All-Star game and it's acknowledgement of HBCU's I couldn't stop to think that every player participating is a multimillionaire. What if, yes, what if each All-Star participant contributed 1 million dollars to a selected HBCU. And what if each NBA and NFL player (African American) adopted a HBCU and donated a percentage of their salary to these institutions. Is that too much to ask. Considering the mindset of today's players.............maybe it is.
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Man I have said this for YEARS. And most defenders on here would say to stop pocket watching and that they could do what they want to with their money. Well they are right on that front but at the same time don''t put on the front that you care so much about the black community and HBCUs but don't do anything or do the bare minimum (and even when they do something, it's political in nature with trick bag language that isn't exclusively FOR black people (the infamous "black and MINORITY"/"Minorities"/"people of color"/black people who are not FBA). Now that it is cool to be "black and proud" and scream "HBCUs Matter", the defenders have faded to black

If you can't do it like Chris Paul, then you are doing it wrong.

One celeb could "Adopt a HBCU" and contribute a million or more to their endowments and/or set up their own endowment to ensure the money goes were it needs to go

Or a group could say "Hey this year we are gonna pool together $5-$10 million (or more" and donate it to a needy HBCU" to help the ones near the brink of closing stay open or the ones with small endowments get on better footing (around a million or less)
 
JSUTigers1877 said:
I think Chris Paul is getting his Degree from Winston Salem State although he played ball at Wake Forest but didn't finish and went Pro.
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I think his parents went to WSSU so it explains why he is enrolled there and always supporting them

He deserves all the credit for being THE leader on this uptick in support of HBCUs from the NBA
 
Jag-at-War said:
As I watched the NBA All-Star game and it's acknowledgement of HBCU's I couldn't stop to think that every player participating is a multimillionaire. What if, yes, what if each All-Star participant contributed 1 million dollars to a selected HBCU. And what if each NBA and NFL player (African American) adopted a HBCU and donated a percentage of their salary to these institutions. Is that too much to ask. Considering the mindset of today's players.............maybe it is.
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What if our own graduates each made a pledge to commit a portion of their salaries every year? It doesn't have to be much, just what each can afford.

We have to get outta the mindset of hoping "rich" Blacks in sports and/or entertainment come bail us out. That's laziness.
 
BobbyBlueBlamm said:
We have to get outta the mindset of hoping "rich" Blacks in sports and/or entertainment come bail us out. That's laziness.
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EVERY OTHER RACE/GROUP does this except for black people. Yes alums can do more (that's an entirely different topic) but pointing out that black celebs can do more is NOT "laziness". It's putting a fire to their feet for getting applause for a $10,000 scholarship with a net worth of $50-$500 million
 
In_The_662 said:
EVERY OTHER RACE/GROUP does this except for black people. Yes alums can do more (that's an entirely different topic) but pointing out that black celebs can do more is NOT "laziness". It's putting a fire to their feet for getting applause for a $10,000 scholarship with a net worth of $50-$500 million
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every other race does alotta things we can't do. our rich Blacks depend on real wealthy whites, and if you knew your political history you'd already know why what you're proposing is just the same idealistic nonsense Black people who ain't serious have been proposing for years and years. sounds good to other lip talkers about Black progress who also don't know their history and ain't really serious.

and it is laziness to hope someone does something you should be doing for yourself. it's the worst kinda laziness because you're part of that precious "talented 10th" the race is supposed to rely on to help us move forward. that was supposed to be the purpose of your education; didn't you know that? you're supposed to come up with realistic ideas to move us forward, yet you're still hoping some rich Black does your work for you.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad put forth a plan decades ago, and Min. Farrakhan reintroduced the plan a few years back where Blacks could donate a nickel a day - just 5 cents - and produce multi-millions annually. a few years back me and a few of my potnas reworked the plan using a dime a day. if just 15 million of us contributed a damn dime a day, five days a week for a year - 24 dollars - we could raise $360,000,000 a year. And we could do that every year. Then we wouldn't have to sit around like women and hope some rich knight in shining armor comes through to save us, no, we could at least see what it feels like to finally Do For Self like real men. Brother doesn't that sound exciting to you? It was sure exciting to us, and everyone said so with their mouths; but when it came time for the get down most of the lip talkers disappeared and out of around 4-500 I believe it was just 4 or 5 of us that put our money where our mouth was. 24 dollars. lol

Rich Blacks ain't coming to save us my man, I can promise you that. If we don't do it it won't get done.
 
BobbyBlueBlamm said:
every other race does alotta things we can't do. our rich Blacks depend on real wealthy whites, and if you knew your political history you'd already know why what you're proposing is just the same idealistic nonsense Black people who ain't serious have been proposing for years and years. sounds good to other lip talkers about Black progress who also don't know their history and ain't really serious.

and it is laziness to hope someone does something you should be doing for yourself. it's the worst kinda laziness because you're part of that precious "talented 10th" the race is supposed to rely on to help us move forward. that was supposed to be the purpose of your education; didn't you know that? you're supposed to come up with realistic ideas to move us forward, yet you're still hoping some rich Black does your work for you.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad put forth a plan decades ago, and Min. Farrakhan reintroduced the plan a few years back where Blacks could donate a nickel a day - just 5 cents - and produce multi-millions annually. a few years back me and a few of my potnas reworked the plan using a dime a day. if just 15 million of us contributed a damn dime a day, five days a week for a year - 24 dollars - we could raise $360,000,000 a year. And we could do that every year. Then we wouldn't have to sit around like women and hope some rich knight in shining armor comes through to save us, no, we could at least see what it feels like to finally Do For Self like real men. Brother doesn't that sound exciting to you? It was sure exciting to us, and everyone said so with their mouths; but when it came time for the get down most of the lip talkers disappeared and out of around 4-500 I believe it was just 4 or 5 of us that put our money where our mouth was. 24 dollars. lol

Rich Blacks ain't coming to save us my man, I can promise you that. If we don't do it it won't get done.
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Love this discussion - Let's be mindful that these rich African American athletes were "birthed", "nurtured" and "raised" by who....US. Reciprocity is one of the keys to "African" life. It should be a natural progression for these athletes who were once "Non - Rich" themselves to give back to the village that produced them. Instead many of them give to white women and the PWC that for the most part exploited them. Why should we be ashamed, docile, or indolent in approaching and reminding them of a responsibility that "we all" should share in supporting "OUR" institutions. As a Pan-Africanist we come first. Your Honorable Elijah Muhammad example is on point - I have used that as well as it resembles the thinking of the Honorable Marcus Garvey. Many good points in this discussion and it leads to us needing African Centered education from preschool to high school to attempt to correct the many ill's of this society.
 



Jag-at-War said:
It should be a natural progression for these athletes who were once "Non - Rich" themselves to give back to the village that produced them.
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I agree. It should be a natural progression, but the "village" that produced them may not be an HBCU. It could be the neighborhood where they were reared. Here is the thing -- and this is not meant to be critical -- I think many of us who graduated from HBCUs are willing to support anything that's Black (including HBCUs). Whereas (I think) your argument is Black folks need to support HBCUs first before supporting anything else that's Black.

If that's not your argument, forgive me.
 
Jag-at-War said:
Love this discussion - Let's be mindful that these rich African American athletes were "birthed", "nurtured" and "raised" by who....US. Reciprocity is one of the keys to "African" life. It should be a natural progression for these athletes who were once "Non - Rich" themselves to give back to the village that produced them. Instead many of them give to white women and the PWC that for the most part exploited them. Why should we be ashamed, docile, or indolent in approaching and reminding them of a responsibility that "we all" should share in supporting "OUR" institutions. As a Pan-Africanist we come first. Your Honorable Elijah Muhammad example is on point - I have used that as well as it resembles the thinking of the Honorable Marcus Garvey. Many good points in this discussion and it leads to us needing African Centered education from preschool to high school to attempt to correct the many ill's of this society.
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If our babies haven’t given back to the village that raised them that’s on us. They won’t act other than they’re raised to act. If they’re trusting and loving of whites to the point that’s where their generational fortunes are going - to white people - because that’s who they’re marrying and having families with that’s on us as well. I don’t blame the babies for us not having raised them properly; the responsibility for that falls on us adults.

A young Black athlete or entertainer makes it and then surrounds themselves with jews for agents and financial planners and lawyers, and you think those people are about to let those millions go to some HBCU dream?

Instead of hoping for the one in a million athlete and/or entertainer who makes it we need to be working to produce racially conscious young Black inventors and businessmen and women. Young scientists. People we don’t have to hope they remember the village because they’ve been raised all their lives to remember their village, and that the Black community at large in this country is their village.

Our own HBCU’s are a prime example; a micro look at the problem at large with us. How many of us graduated from HBCU’s but encouraged our talented children or nieces/nephews/cousins etc to go to PWC’s when those schools came calling, whether it was for athletics or academics - but especially athletics since that’s our main focus? We do it and have a million excuses why we do it. But our children have watched us, so is it any surprise they don’t have that village mentality?
 
Kenn Rashad said:
I agree. It should be a natural progression, but the "village" that produced them may not be an HBCU. It could be the neighborhood where they were reared. Here is the thing -- and this is not meant to be critical -- I think many of us who graduated from HBCUs are willing to support anything that's Black (including HBCUs). Whereas (I think) your argument is Black folks need to support HBCUs first before supporting anything else that's Black.

If that's not your argument, forgive me.
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You're forgiven - not my argument at all, but no problem. A comprehensive self-love life application for our people is my approach. But - that is derived from Self-Knowledge and Self-Identity....thus the African Centered Education. I only focused on HBCU's because that's the name of this site isn't it. There are no loser's in these discussions.......just a sharing of processes and tactics for the better good of our people. The rich Black athletes are not seen as Saviour's but extension's of the village's possibilities. They must be taught and reminded or they will wilt in the sun of aimlessness.
 
Jag-at-War said:
You're forgiven - not my argument at all, but no problem. A comprehensive self-love life application for our people is my approach. But - that is derived from Self-Knowledge and Self-Identity....thus the African Centered Education. I only focused on HBCU's because that's the name of this site isn't it. There are no loser's in these discussions.......just a sharing of processes and tactics for the better good of our people. The rich Black athletes are not seen as Saviour's but extension's of the village's possibilities. They must be taught and reminded or they will wilt in the sun of aimlessness.
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Understood, and I'm not saying that you're wrong. Appreciate the correction. But was just providing another angle to the conversation.
 
Jag-at-War said:
The rich Black athletes are not seen as Saviour's but extension's of the village's possibilities. They must be taught and reminded or they will wilt in the sun of aimlessness.
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Great point. I dont think anyone on this post is looking at them as saviors but a successful product of their environ that can inspire others to follow their lead. If Lil Pookie can make it to the NFL and do like Nipsey was trying to do before he was taken out, that could inspire a new generation to do the same (this also goes for non-athletes as well who leave MS, LA, ARK, etc. and never look back or reach back).

As previously stated, we are the only group/entity that doesn't do group economics like that. And if you are critical of that fact, you get attacked. no way a Jay-Z could do what he has done to the black community if he were Asian, Arab, etc. Living vicariously doesn't help up out as a whole either
 
Just to get back to the original topic, all of our schools are short of funds in their athletic departments not just ScSt...
 
In_The_662 said:
Great point. I dont think anyone on this post is looking at them as saviors but a successful product of their environ that can inspire others to follow their lead. If Lil Pookie can make it to the NFL and do like Nipsey was trying to do before he was taken out, that could inspire a new generation to do the same (this also goes for non-athletes as well who leave MS, LA, ARK, etc. and never look back or reach back).

As previously stated, we are the only group/entity that doesn't do group economics like that. And if you are critical of that fact, you get attacked. no way a Jay-Z could do what he has done to the black community if he were Asian, Arab, etc. Living vicariously doesn't help up out as a whole either
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But why does group economics have to begin on the backs of rich Black athletes and entertainers? That’s my issue. We’re the only race of people who do that - hold up entertainers as a standard and expect them to be the bank for racial progress.

The serious money is in invention and innovation, and then owning and controlling those inventions and innovations. The sustaining money is in business and industry, not entertainment. Easier to raise entrepreneurs than pro athletes.

Sports and movie production shut down for a period during COVID and nobody really cared, but people stood in long lines to buy toilet paper and water. We need to get serious.

In my first response to you I gave you a real and practical example of how we could be raising multi-millions a year, every year - and more than we’d ever receive from any rich Black athlete or entertainer - and it wouldn’t cost any one of us more than $24 a yr and it hasn’t gotten one response. You ignored it completely, but you still came back later to again explain to someone else how hoping rich Blacks “sponsor” our schools is somehow feasible. Brother that’s how I know in my heart you ain’t serious. You, and the majority of Black people like you. We’ve become a race of talkers.
 
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BobbyBlueBlamm said:
But why does group economics have to begin on the backs of rich Black athletes and entertainers? That’s my issue. We’re the only race of people who do that - hold up entertainers as a standard and expect them to be the bank for racial progress.

The serious money is in invention and innovation, and then owning and controlling those inventions and innovations. The sustaining money is in business and industry, not entertainment. Easier to raise entrepreneurs than pro athletes.

Sports and movie production shut down for a period during COVID and nobody really cared, but people stood in long lines to buy toilet paper and water. We need to get serious.

In my first response to you I gave you a real and practical example of how we could be raising multi-millions a year, every year - and more than we’d ever receive from any rich Black athlete or entertainer - and it wouldn’t cost any one of us more than $24 a yr and it hasn’t gotten one response. You ignored it completely, but you still came back later to again explain to someone else how hoping rich Blacks “sponsor” our schools is somehow feasible. Brother that’s how I know in my heart you ain’t serious. You, and the majority of Black people like you. We’ve become a race of talkers.
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I agree with you point and will add that we really have the economic prowess to improve out lot as a people. We spend over 20 million/year on hair care and weaves - 9 mil/year on athletic wear and 16 mil/year on fast foods and 14 mil/month on Sunday at Church. We could go on and on but you see we have the financial wherewithal but aren't "US FIRST-SECOND-THIRD....... Education and Economics from OUR PERSPECTIVE. Last comment and thanks for sharing.
 
This period has exposed a lot of structural dysfunction within our country, including the very real and vast economic gaps along race and class lines. In a perfect world, we would love for folks from an array of backgrounds to be more supportive of our institutions.

I know this conservation is directed at the elite Blacks or wealthy Blacks. But they comprise a very small percentage of our population and their support with all these compounding issues is unsustainable unless there are structural changes.

And I also think we don't realize that Black people, particularly those who have some means, have this unique burden of being tasked with the expectation to not only support themselves and family members but also communities, too.

Now the expectation is to do all of that and financially support colleges and universities, which is something the state should be doing.
 
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