Roundtable: The DaVinci Code Book/Movie


Stormy

Stormy

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I just have to ask........
What's the big deal????​

I read the book, I was entertained. That was all......

I am deeply disappointed by my fellow Christians who are going to such great lengths to help promote The Di Vinci Code (because that's what they are doing) out of fear of a FICTION book that it is clear the masses protesting it's release, didn't read. It is clear to me that they didn't actually read it because anyone that did knows that in the pages of this FICTION novel the Catholic church was greatly exonerated and said to have been used by one very curious and possibly deranged man. From the hoopla going on this week you would think they the catholic church was proclaimed as a bad religious organization (that would say hide a ring of sexual predators----okay that was low....my bad). I also heard on the news this morning that the book supposedly claimed that Jesus wasn't divine....that is absolutely a LIE. The book makes no mention of Jesus not being divine...it does however say he had a wife (which would have been mandatory for a Jewish man of his age in his time). The real problem with this book isn't even about Jesus, it is the lies that have been told that certain organizations cannot have revealed; in this case the church's blatant sweeping erasion of women from the bible. If we're not careful people will ask the most important question in biblical history....why? Why were Adah, Ruth, Ester, Martha, and Electa's stories told and the Gospel of Mary Magdalene banned and her recast as a whore (and in the ultimate insult, her rightful place taken over my her mother-in-law). My God, she must have been really important......to garner such a smear campaign. It was brilliant...I mean really, who would take a whore seriously??? Hummmm......what about EVE???


"What is done in the dark......."

:read:
-Astrya


Thank God for free will and valition...otherwise these people would just tell us how to think and what to believe.....
 
Stormy said:
I just have to ask........
What's the big deal????​

I read the book, I was entertained. That was all......

I am deeply disappointed by my fellow Christians who are going to such great lengths to help promote The Di Vinci Code (because that's what they are doing) out of fear of a FICTION book that it is clear the masses protesting it's release, didn't read. It is clear to me that they didn't actually read it because anyone that did knows that in the pages of this FICTION novel the Catholic church was greatly exonerated and said to have been used by one very curious and possibly deranged man. From the hoopla going on this week you would think they the catholic church was proclaimed as a bad religious organization (that would say hide a ring of sexual predators----okay that was low....my bad). I also heard on the news this morning that the book supposedly claimed that Jesus wasn't divine....that is absolutely a LIE. The book makes no mention of Jesus not being divine...it does however say he had a wife (which would have been mandatory for a Jewish man of his age in his time). The real problem with this book isn't even about Jesus, it is the lies that have been told that certain organizations cannot have revealed; in this case the church's blatant sweeping erasion of women from the bible. ...
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Dan Brown simply milked it to get richer, and people have bought it (literally) hook, line, and sinker.

As a pastor I was asked why I haven't addressed it from the pulpit. The answer is really simple: IT IS PROCLAIMED FICTION BY ITS OWN AUTHOR!

The sad part is that I really think that there are a lot of church folks milking it to get rich by producing counters to it. I hope I am wrong.
 



I love his books...they are based on CODE. Ceaser wrote in 16 letter code for instance

I am going to Israel

It would look like this:

IotraioamnIeggsl

Translated in 4x4

Iotr
aioa
mnIe
ggsl
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
I love his books...they are based on CODE. Ceaser wrote in 16 letter code for instance

I am going to Israel

It would look like this:

IotraioamnIeggsl

Translated in 4x4

Iotr
aioa
mnIe
ggsl
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:confused: :uhoh:
 
dacontinent said:
The sad part is that I really think that there are a lot of church folks milking it to get rich by producing counters to it. I hope I am wrong.
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They are indeed, a "minister" was on CNN last night talking about his counter attack on the Da Vinci Code..... :smh:

Warndalyn,
I'm curious, did you read the book?

-Astrya


p.s.
I wounder where all the protesters were when this was being releases....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097576/plotsummary
 
Stormy said:
...I'm curious, did you read the book?
...
I wounder where all the protesters were when this was being releases....
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I haven't finished it yet. Just not real high on my list. I am not a big reader of fiction these days. The Indiana Jones comparison is an excellent one. The Last Crusade is a favorable view of historical Christianity and the DaVinci Code counters the historical view. Otherwise, they are quite similar. The interesting thing is that none of the reviews that I have read mention these angles at all.
 
Stormy said:
They are indeed, a "minister" was on CNN last night talking about his counter attack on the Da Vinci Code..... :smh:

Warndalyn,
I'm curious, did you read the book?

-Astrya


p.s.
I wounder where all the protesters were when this was being releases....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097576/plotsummary
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Stormy the protestors love Harrison Ford and Sean Connery. Harrison or Sean could make a movie proclaiming that Satan is actually Jesus and there won't be any protest.
 
though we all recongnize it as fiction...and in fact the author has pointed this out as well, I know as well as you that there are some not so bright people in this world who will see the film and take it as gospel. crazy? I saw blair witch, as some of you might have. there were many dim bulbs that thought it was real home video. so I think there is a legit concern that some might see the movie and believe it. so dan brown might make a few extra dollars (or a lot) b/c of this debate, but if it spurs people to research and learn the history of the bible, learn what their bible really says and one, just one finds Christ as a result, it was worth making dan brown rich. after all....how much is one soul worth?
 
major095 said:
though we all recongnize it as fiction...and in fact the author has pointed this out as well, I know as well as you that there are some not so bright people in this world who will see the film and take it as gospel. crazy? I saw blair witch, as some of you might have. there were many dim bulbs that thought it was real home video. so I think there is a legit concern that some might see the movie and believe it. so dan brown might make a few extra dollars (or a lot) b/c of this debate, but if it spurs people to research and learn the history of the bible, learn what their bible really says and one, just one finds Christ as a result, it was worth making dan brown rich. after all....how much is one soul worth?
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Well said. I am encouraging members of our congregation to read the book and I am supplying them with answers to the frequently asked questions to rebut much of the nonsense.
 
Stormy said:
I wounder where all the protesters were when this was being releases....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097576/plotsummary
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My thoughts exactly....It's not like the book came out last week, month, or year. I read the book a few years ago, and I wondered why the Catholic Church wasn't making any noise upon it's initial release.

*Side note* Angels and Demons which was released before The Da Vinci Code
really looks unfavorable upon the Vatican.
 
dacontinent said:
Well said. I am encouraging members of our congregation to read the book and I am supplying them with answers to the frequently asked questions to rebut much of the nonsense.
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Why would you encourage your members to read this mess and furthermore, why would you encourage them to waste their money on some mess that will make the author Brown, and Ron Howard the producer rich? This is a lie being told against the "Holy One," and I am surprised to hear a minister encouraging his flock to read such lies.
 



dacontinent said:
Well said. I am encouraging members of our congregation to read the book and I am supplying them with answers to the frequently asked questions to rebut much of the nonsense.
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D...the author said it was fiction.

fic·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fkshn)
n.

An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented.
The act of inventing such a creation or pretense.
A lie.

A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.
Law. Something untrue that is intentionally represented as true by the narrator
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This is all you have to tell your congregation.

Seriously people are making a big deal out of nothing. I guess if I write a book stating that Jesus and the Devil are brothers and TWIST the Bible because satin WAS an Angel...then state that it is FICTION...people will still say it's true and waste people's time trying to proove something where the AUTHOR already said it was not true just his imagination.

In short D, don't waste your congregation's time in the lord preaching about a wasted topic when quite franky there are more pertinent issues facing society. I read a lot and if you are in the religion section of any Barnes and Noble you will find hundreds of books similar in which the author stated were fiction. So by locating scriptures to rebuke this movie and book is waste because there are hundreds of scriptures that will do that.
 
DSN,

I understand where you are coming from, and I was at that point a few weeks ago. However, the other side of the coin is that it is something that unbelievers and unstable folks really find interest. So, since they want to talk about it and it gives us a chance to spread the gospel based on THEIR interests in a subject, it is a witnessing opportunity served on a silver platter. We just can't pass it up. I won't spend time on it on a Sunday morning, but have rolled it out to small group discussion, meetings in homes with neighbors. Low key but sometimes intense discussions. Good stuff.
 
dacontinent said:
DSN,

I understand where you are coming from, and I was at that point a few weeks ago. However, the other side of the coin is that it is something that unbelievers and unstable folks really find interest. So, since they want to talk about it and it gives us a chance to spread the gospel based on THEIR interests in a subject, it is a witnessing opportunity served on a silver platter. We just can't pass it up. I won't spend time on it on a Sunday morning, but have rolled it out to small group discussion, meetings in homes with neighbors. Low key but sometimes intense discussions. Good stuff.
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I understand and thank for the response. I just hate when everything is picked apart as if everything written on a piece paper is taken as the TRUTH even when an author says, this is from my imagination.
 
I read it more than a year ago and I thought it was a brilliant piece of fiction then just as I do now. It paralleled and correlated events to the point you really did have to wonder, "What if this IS true?"

Yes, I also wondered why the Catholic church didn't step in to renounce the book. But then again, do you want to spend all your time hushing naysayers or getting on with the Holy work?

I think this book brings out healthy dialogue and debate. One thing most folks forget: Everybody is NOT a Christian and they most definitely weren't raised in your household. Meaning, different viewpoints, opinions and conclusions to identical information.
 
chocalate_topaz said:
One thing most folks forget: Everybody is NOT a Christian and they most definitely weren't raised in your household. Meaning, different viewpoints, opinions and conclusions to identical information.
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shhhh don't say that here
 
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