Rank the SWAC teams


Actually computer rankings used a lot of different ways to come up with their numbers. Some use things like SOS, win/loss record, points scored, points scored on, polls, etc. The creator then put those he thought were important into a formula in which they created and then it spits out a number. Rankings are based on the opinions that they, the creator of the ranking, came up with. Giving strength to what they see fit and taking away from things that they don't see fit. It's all biased. Now, maybe yours don't use polls but some do.

That number does not say if Team A will compete with Team B or if one is better than the other. All it says is that Team A has a better schedule, a stronger conference, scored more than, got scored on less, or has a better ranking than Team B. None have any holding in a real game... They are just numbers. All Team A has to do is leave in their starters a little longer than Team B in blowouts and changed those rankings all together. Or, schedule the third or four best teams in a particular conference rather than the fifth best.

According to your beloved GPI, McNeese has a 30+ point differential from Grambling. I would tend to disagree. I would say they only have an 11 point difference but what do I know. I'm sure you believe that Harvard is the #11 team in the country and FAU is #12, too. It's laughable at best. Looks like Grambling would finish at the bottom of the Southland conference according to your lovely GPI. Thank God for Sam Houston State or we would be below their whole conference.

Or should we give your GPI more time to level out like those creators of the rankings like to say? I guess it will all even out as the season goes on, right? I could go through the whole thing and point out many ridiculous rankings but who has time.
 
Oh yeah on last weeks GPI, Grambling was ranked 89th in the country on one of those nonbiased computer rankings... Do you get it yet?
 



Originally posted by GRAM4LIFE
Actually computer rankings used a lot of different ways to come up with their numbers. Some use things like SOS, win/loss record, points scored, points scored on, polls, etc... Now, maybe yours don't use polls but some do. That number does not say if Team A will compete with Team B or if one is better than the other... None have any holding in a real game... They are just numbers...According to your beloved GPI, McNeese has a 30+ point differential from Grambling. I would tend to disagree. I would say they only have an 11 point difference but what do I know...Or should we give your GPI more time to level out like those creators of the rankings like to say? I guess it will all even out as the season goes on, right?...
Gram4life, just to clear some stuff up so there is no confusion, computer ratings don't include polls. Some indexes like the GPI and BCS do (please do not draw any other comparisons between these two because they use drastically different inputs-BCS is for I-A, GPI is for I-AA). Ratings do have that formula like you said of strength of schedule, etc. and spit out a number. Some even proclaim that theirs can predict who will win a future game. The GPI doesn't. It ranks teams based on where they are now in relation to what they have done. Like you said, they are pretty irrelevant when the teams take the field for a game. The total points in the GPI are not relational to the points in a game. That is a determined number calculation. Yes, the more games are played the more accurate the GPI rankings and computer ratings become. Computer ratings are said to be objective because all teams use the same formula. We select eight that perform the best (most realistic). Actually, the best indicator is when ALL the games have been played...sometime in January (or whenever the last collegiate contest is finished).
 
1.Grambling
2.Southern
3.Alabama St.
4.Alabama A&M
5.Texas Southern
6.Jackson St.
7.Alcorn St.
8.UAPB
9.PVU
10.MVSU

Grambling will need to show up at the Classic to secure another ring. The question is can SU beat them when it counts?

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Originally posted by GRAM4LIFE
Oh yeah on last weeks GPI, Grambling was ranked 89th in the country on one of those nonbiased computer rankings... Do you get it yet?
I'm not sure what you're getting ... maybe you can explain it for me. I looked at last year's GPI for 11/27/02 and saw Grambling ranked #20 and Southern #84. We all know what happened in the next game for those two. The final GPI last year (2/3/03) had Grambling #32 and Southern #69. What that says, I think, is that the Bayou was an exception and Grambling actually had a better year than Southern. Personally I don't put a lot into what the ratings/rankings are because when you go to a game anything can happen and the GPI, unlike the BCS, does not determine a national champion.
 
Ralph... I really have no problem with your GPI, since we don't participate in the playoffs. It doesn't really effect us. To me it is very BCS like... Not really as accurate as you may like to think. Like you said last year Grambling finished at #32, we would never get in the playoffs if we could with that GPI ranking knowing that we would have to get an at-large bid. That would play the same way out for any SWAC champion for any year. This is one reason for our self imposed exclusion from the playoffs.

Our GPI would always be low...
Probably wouldn't get in the playoffs in first place...
Yet if we did, we would have to go on the road in the first round...
Probably to one of the top three teams in the country...
More than likely get beat...
Might be a close game...
But, it would feed into the attitudes of the people of your board that the SWAC or MEAC can't compete...
Which is far from true...

Like I said earlier, if Grambling was in the Southland according to your GPI we would be the 6th best team out of 7. Thank God for Sam Houston State.
 
Originally posted by Ralph
I'm not sure what you're getting ... maybe you can explain it for me. I looked at last year's GPI for 11/27/02 and saw Grambling ranked #20 and Southern #84. We all know what happened in the next game for those two. The final GPI last year (2/3/03) had Grambling #32 and Southern #69. What that says, I think, is that the Bayou was an exception and Grambling actually had a better year than Southern. Personally I don't put a lot into what the ratings/rankings are because when you go to a game anything can happen and the GPI, unlike the BCS, does not determine a national champion.


Ralph,

The latest GPI is flawed. Points were not added for losses. Southern moves up to 15th when this correction is made.
 
My current list as of 10/28/03
1. SU
2: GSU
3. AAMU
4. TSU
5. ASU
6. Alcorn
7. JSU
8. UAPB
9. MVSU
10. PVU
 
1. Southern
2. Grambling
3. Jackson State
4. AAMU
5. Texas Southern
6. Alcorn
7. Alabama State
8. UAPB
9. MVSU
10.PVU
 
How I see it after this week:

1. Grambling
2. Southern
3. Alabama A&M
4. Alabama State
5t. Alcorn State
5t. Texas Southern
7. Jackson State
8. Arkansas-Pine Bluff
9. Mississippi Valley
10. Prarie View
 
Originally posted by Tigerpride
1. Southern
2. Grambling
3. Jackson State
4. AAMU
5. Texas Southern
6. Alcorn
7. Alabama State
8. UAPB
9. MVSU
10.PVU

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Originally posted by Jag Voice
How I see it.
1. SU: Clicking on all cyclinders. Next test in Bayou Classic
2: GSU: Will have to find a RB to complement Eugene
3. ASU: Not flashy but best in the East
4. AAMU: Living and dying by their running game
5. Alcorn: Trying to turn the corner
6. JSU: Will not win a game in October
7. TSU: Coach should be fired
8. UAPB: Coach should be fired
9. MVSU: What happened this year?
10. PVU: Still a couple years from being respectable

Originally posted by Jag Voice
My current list as of 10/28/03
1. SU
2: GSU
3. AAMU
4. TSU
5. ASU
6. Alcorn
7. JSU
8. UAPB
9. MVSU
10. PVU

Poor Alcorn. They beat Southern and drop a spot in Jag Voice?s rankings. Southern is the only team in the top 7 to lose and retain their position. Go Figure!!! :lmao:
 
So just because you've beaten only 2 teams, you think that Jsue is the 3rd best team in the conference?
 
Originally posted by GramTigress
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I apoltogize fto the board for this .but this isht up tehre ^^^^^ got etrears in my dayam heyes!!!!!!!!

lamo!!!!
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Just watch how the logic plays out. I had to be fair to every SWAC team. This is going to change next week. The week after that, JSU is going to be in the two spot and after Bham... ;)
 
Bruh, come on now.

Did Bell and his inept staff leave? If so, I'd believe you. If they're still there, well.... :shame:
 
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