Politics and College Football


Kendrick

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The 2008 election is not over. While many Americans believe the two year campaigning process ended the first week of November, there is still a long way to go.

The politicking is just heating up. From Los Angeles to Alabama to Texas to Texas Tech to Oklahoma and Florida.

The art of politicking has reached a new level in college football when it comes to the BCS.

Texas head coach Mack Brown has been acting more like John McCain than a football coach these days. Brown, winner of a national championship, has been during radio and TV interview pleading with voters to allow his No. 2 Texas Longhorns a spot in the BCS title game.

Cool, calm and collected Pete Carroll, two-time national champion, does not even understand the BCS process anymore.

"I don't understand how the thing works, I don't really know," he said. "What is the criteria of the process? Is it to pick the team that has the best season, that has the season that you like the most and feel best about voting for? Or is it the best team at the end of the year, the team that would win a playoff system if you did have it?" he said.

Bob Stoops, winner of a national championship at Oklahoma, has been doing a little bit of begging of his own.

“The logic of whether to put us in front of Texas? If you can’t do that because they beat us, then you’ve got to keep Texas Tech in front of Texas. What’s logical for one is logical for the other,” Stoops said.

Where has college football gone when coaches have to brown nose voters and a computer for a shot to win the a national title.

Shouldn't this national championship picture be decided on the gridiron instead of an athletic director's office on a college campus?

To get their point across Texas spent thousands of dollars to have signs printed with "45-35" inscribed on them so fans at the Longhorn-Aggie game could flash them to the voters during the nationally televised game about the Longhorn win over the Sooners during the Red River Shootout. It did not stop there. Texas then paid to have a plane fly over T. Boone Pickens Stadium during the Oklahoma State-Oklahoma game so voters could get another reminder of the 45-35 score.

There are more holes in this BCS saga than a hanging chad in a shady Florida ballot box.

It is one thing to have our next president decided by a vote, but should we have a college football champion decided by voters with severe agendas who need to be kissed up to by coaches and players?

Why is college football the only sport where teams have to worry about how much they win by, who they play when they win, who the other team play and how much the other team won by in their previous contest?

Why is major college football the only sport that determines who play for the national title by computer programmers, coaches, former players, media members and athletic directors?

Why can' t college football be like everybody else and have the conference champions square off in the playoffs?

But that would be too much like right.

Normally the public turns to sports to get away from politics. It seems with every passing day, college football fans don't know if they are watching ESPN or Fox News election coverage.
 
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There is no way Oklahoma should be in front of Texas with the same record. I dont give a damn who they beat and how many points they scored...they didnt do it on Texas. This some bull. This confusion is good though.

I will tell you what....let Florida beat Bama and Ok beat Mizz.
It looks like Ok and Texas could be 1 and 2.
If an SEC team is screwed, they might just blow the BCS to hell.
 
There is no way Oklahoma should be in front of Texas with the same record. I dont give a damn who they beat and how many points they scored...they didnt do it on Texas. This some bull. This confusion is good though.

I will tell you what....let Florida beat Bama and Ok beat Mizz.
It looks like Ok and Texas could be 1 and 2.
If an SEC team is screwed, they might just blow the BCS to hell.

Damn, I gotta agree with GR.
 
There is no way Oklahoma should be in front of Texas with the same record. I dont give a damn who they beat and how many points they scored...they didnt do it on Texas. This some bull. This confusion is good though.

I will tell you what....let Florida beat Bama and Ok beat Mizz.
It looks like Ok and Texas could be 1 and 2.
If an SEC team is screwed, they might just blow the BCS to hell.


If that happen Texas and Ok cannot play for the National Championship.

If Fla beat Ala...they will jump to 2. Ok beat Mizz will put OK 1.

Obama...we need a playoff now!
 
My wife went to OU, I hope Florida or Bama beats their a** in the ground in the BCS title game. Oklahoma people's logic is stupid.
 
There is no way Oklahoma should be in front of Texas with the same record. I dont give a damn who they beat and how many points they scored...they didnt do it on Texas. This some bull. This confusion is good though.

And Texas didn't do it on Texas Tech. So what's your point? It's sad that everyone is talking about Texas and Oklahoma, but not Texas Tech.
 
And Texas didn't do it on Texas Tech. So what's your point? It's sad that everyone is talking about Texas and Oklahoma, but not Texas Tech.


Wait a minute...how can you bring up Tech when they didnt show up to play OK? And they barely beat Baylor!
 
Wait a minute...how can you bring up Tech when they didnt show up to play OK? And they barely beat Baylor!

But they beat Texas, so how can you just leave them out of the conversation? They have the same record as the other two teams. To me that's just sad.
 
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Using some type of mathematical logic in this, Oklahoma should be divisional champs. Based on the margin of points each team won by against other divisional opponents, Oklahoma has the highest at 124, Texas is second with 72, and Texas Tech is last with 23. Therefore, mathematically speaking, Oklahoma breaks the tie-breaker in the division.

You keep using logic until one breaks the tie. The SWAC is definitely not a logical conference.
 
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Using some type of mathematical logic in this, Oklahoma should be divisional champs. Based on the margin of points each team won by against other divisional opponents, Oklahoma has the highest at 124, Texas is second with 72, and Texas Tech is last with 23. Therefore, mathematically speaking, Oklahoma breaks the tie-breaker in the division.

You keep using logic until one breaks the tie. The SWAC is definitely not a logical conference.

Forget math. That is what got us in this whole situation in the first place with the computer programmers. Using football logic, Texas beats Oklahoma they should go the Big 12 title game, considering the Longhorns beat both the Sooners and Missouri this season.
 



Using some type of mathematical logic in this, Oklahoma should be divisional champs. Based on the margin of points each team won by against other divisional opponents, Oklahoma has the highest at 124, Texas is second with 72, and Texas Tech is last with 23. Therefore, mathematically speaking, Oklahoma breaks the tie-breaker in the division.

You keep using logic until one breaks the tie. The SWAC is definitely not a logical conference.


This logic is wrong for the simple fact that marign of points was taken out of the BCS computing years ago.
 
Forget math. That is what got us in this whole situation in the first place with the computer programmers. Using football logic, Texas beats Oklahoma they should go the Big 12 title game, considering the Longhorns beat both the Sooners and Missouri this season.

WTF? I see why the SWAC is in the shape it is in. Logic is the only reasonable solution. Your decision is based on your likes and dislike of a team. My decision is based on simple logic for any conference with a three-way divisional or conference tie. The nation wide computer rating is something totally different. A fvcking coin toss is definitely not logic.
 
This logic is wrong for the simple fact that marign of points was taken out of the BCS computing years ago.

That's the BCS, this is for the conference or the divisional title. Lets not mix apples with oranges.
 
WTF? I see why the SWAC is in the shape it is in. Logic is the only reasonable solution. Your decision is based on your likes and dislike of a team. My decision is based on simple logic for any conference with a three-way divisional or conference tie. The nation wide computer rating is something totally different. A fvcking coin toss is definitely not logic.


I agree a coin toss is not the best way. But we are talking about the FBS. Putting up 40 points on your opponent is not a way to boost your poll postion.
 
That's the BCS, this is for the conference or the divisional title. Lets not mix apples with oranges.


But....the tie was broken based on the team with the highest bcs ranking. Like I said earlier...margin of victory (points) is not supposed to be consider.
 
But....the tie was broken based on the team with the highest bcs ranking. Like I said earlier...margin of victory (points) is not supposed to be consider.


I understand that Oklahoma won the divisional title with their BCS ranking, but to eliminate the confusion, each conference should employ the margin of victory as means of a three-way tie breaker and that has nothing to do with any team's BCS ranking.
 
I agree a coin toss is not the best way. But we are talking about the FBS. Putting up 40 points on your opponent is not a way to boost your poll postion.

But it can determine your conference or divisional ranking. It's the best solution to a three or more tie breaker.
 
But it can determine your conference or divisional ranking. It's the best solution to a three or more tie breaker.


It should not be consider in the rankings!

Texas could have easily scored 80 points on Texas A&M but pulled off the dog when the victory was in sight.

OK and Florida pull this crap on weak teams but cannot beat a sound team like that.
 
WTF? I see why the SWAC is in the shape it is in. Logic is the only reasonable solution. Your decision is based on your likes and dislike of a team. My decision is based on simple logic for any conference with a three-way divisional or conference tie. The nation wide computer rating is something totally different. A fvcking coin toss is definitely not logic.

I really don't like Texas, Tech or OU. I just don't think it is fair that you beat a team head-to-head and you finish with the same record as them, but yet they advance and you don't.

Maybe these teams in an event of a 3-way tie should just play each other and decide it on the field. That is the only fair way I can think of instead of it off the field.
 
It should not be consider in the rankings!

Texas could have easily scored 80 points on Texas A&M but pulled off the dog when the victory was in sight.

OK and Florida pull this crap on weak teams but cannot beat a sound team like that.


So Texas Tech and Oklahoma State are weak teams. Also, I only used the teams within their division. Texas beat Texas A&M by 40 and Oklahoma beat Texas A&M by 38, which is a 2 point favor for Texas. Therefore you better come to play every Saturday.
 
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