Obama quits church after long controversy


Obama left the church for political reasons.

I hate he did it, but He had to do it.
Its the same as when the young guy who was running around in the hood with them street dudes, that he wasn't really like but they protected him cause he had mad game on the court. He grew up in the neighborhood but wanted to play it straight...never was down with the thug life even though he lived in it. Now he got the phat contract, drafted in the lottery and he knows he can't run around with them anymore or else he winds up like PacMan Jones.

Simple as that.

I really don't understand how some of you all acting like he 'abandoned' God by doing this though:retard: People can switch churches ya know...that ain't no sin guys.
 
This is sad. People just don't like to hear the truth. :confused: :smh:

They don't want to hear a God fearing politician like Keyes because thats too much like right. If you listen to Obama starting at 1:15 you'll hear something thats very disturbing if you're a Christian. Obama clearly states that he's not a Christian around the 1:20 mark. You have to be very sharp to catch it or you'll be spiritually rocked to sleep by his speech. If Obama was a Christian then he would not have made that statement because of the two verses below. A word to the wise is sufficient. BTW, it doesn't surprise me because Oprah said the same thing and she supports Obama.

Keyes-Obama debate 2 (Christianity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md2bf...eature=related


Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
 



Royal Blue your assumption isn't accurate.

For example I'll use one of the Republican canidates that I liked. Mike Huckabee. A respectable, honest man for the most part...God fearing also...even a Baptist preacher.

He's about the only one that would get my vote.

Please tell me why he did not win your parties Nomination?

nevermind...I'll answer.

The problem with your arguement is that the U.S. is a country made up of more than just christians...Obama understands that, as do I. You however don't, if the country was the way you believed it to be it would be a dictatorship.

Americans want a person that governs all of the nation....though not negating Christiany's importance. Royal Blue that nation includes athiest, racist, and any other subgroup that you would care to name. This is the land of the free & that has to continue to be. If we were all MADE to live in this country according to the bible...without a doubt it would be GREAT! Unfortunately for us....this isn't HEAVEN.
 
Royal Blue your assumption isn't accurate.

For example I'll use one of the Republican canidates that I liked. Mike Huckabee. A respectable, honest man for the most part...God fearing also...even a Baptist preacher.

He's about the only one that would get my vote.

Please tell me why he did not win your parties Nomination?

nevermind...I'll answer.

The problem with your arguement is that the U.S. is a country made up of more than just christians...Obama understands that, as do I. You however don't, if the country was the way you believed it to be it would be a dictatorship.

Americans want a person that governs all of the nation....though not negating Christiany's importance. Royal Blue that nation includes athiest, racist, and any other subgroup that you would care to name. This is the land of the free & that has to continue to be. If we were all MADE to live in this country according to the bible...without a doubt it would be GREAT! Unfortunately for us....this isn't HEAVEN.


And that's it in a nuttshell. Far to much these I got all the answer Christians go off on the deep end railing about how God want us to live and confuses hat with the reality of this world although they spout clever cliche's like (in the world but not of it).

If this world would be as they say it should than what was the purpose of Jesus sacrifice? And you can sit at home and type scripture after scripture and it won't change anything, and that's the way it was meant to be until God says other wise.
 
Royal Blue your assumption isn't accurate.

For example I'll use one of the Republican canidates that I liked. Mike Huckabee. A respectable, honest man for the most part...God fearing also...even a Baptist preacher.

He's about the only one that would get my vote.

Please tell me why he did not win your parties Nomination?

nevermind...I'll answer.

The problem with your arguement is that the U.S. is a country made up of more than just christians...Obama understands that, as do I. You however don't, if the country was the way you believed it to be it would be a dictatorship.

Americans want a person that governs all of the nation....though not negating Christiany's importance. Royal Blue that nation includes athiest, racist, and any other subgroup that you would care to name. This is the land of the free & that has to continue to be. If we were all MADE to live in this country according to the bible...without a doubt it would be GREAT! Unfortunately for us....this isn't HEAVEN.

Wisdom is a beautiful gift to accept into ones life if you allow it. I didn't make an assumption when it came to my faith......Obama did. He pulled a Judas in front of millions and stood firm on his views. Keyes stood up for Christ and was sure about his faith in Christ.....no assumptions. Again, there are no in betweens with God. You either believe or you don't. Either you're going to heaven or hell. You either have faith or you don't because there is no such thing as a little faith. You don't play games with God for a political gain, thats foolish and I don't support fools who claim to be Christian but yet are not aware that Christ is the only way.

Luke 11:2 "And He said unto them, When ye pray, say, `Our Father Which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth."

They don't push for abortion in heaven and neither do they support gays, lesbians or the gay agenda.

2Ch 19:6 And said to the judges, Take heed(WATCH) what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who [is] with you in the judgment.

We don't judge for the people in America but for Almighty God.

2Ch 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do [it]: for [there is] no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.

God doesn't play favorites and he will use whomever it takes to get the job done.......including children.

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity(LAWLESSNESS).

This will be very embarrassing to anyone.

Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

I think we know all other ground is sinking sand.

Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

You don't sell your soul for a political gain or vote.

Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

It doesn't take much to see that some will have some explaining to do. What reason can a person give to God as to why they openly supported an abomination and encouraged others to do it as well?

Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

And death it shall be.:dead:
 
The KKK Believes that they are God fearing, so what?

When Keyes had the opportunity he did not act in the best interst of his people, so what?

Anyone can claim to be a Christian, but their actions are the most important.

America claims to be the most Christian of Christian, but WE have broken every commandment and beyond. WE HAVE NOT LOVED OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELVES, next door to our homes or the countries that border us.

A church nor minister is the religion, the religion is Christianity. The religion is following in the footsteps of Jesus in our daily actions. Jesus never had a physical bulding that he was the pastor of. His ministry was about actions and not literal bricks and mortar.
 
Royal Blue, you are confusing God with Government.

they are not the same.:smh:
 
The fact that Obama would abandon what he has purported to follow for over 20 years in the hopes that it will make him more likely to do well in the election is disgusting. Either he believes the doctrines taught there or he was there for political expedience--. I would be more comfortable with his belief than the political expedience. I fear Obama wants to be president so much that he is willing to sell his soul to become the candidate. I respect him even less today than ever before.

What will happen when the issue of gay marriage burns white hot? Resignation will not be an option for Obama and we will know more about the "center' of this new opportunity just appearing.

You flip more than a pancake.
Wasn't you one of the one's damming OBAMA for being assoiciated with Trinity?
Now all of a sudden you find it disgusting that he would leave the church now.

Ok. :lmao:
Again South Mississippi.
Just Stop cause you know you would vote for Obama for no reason. :lmao:
 
:nod:

He separating because of politics. Do you not think he's a politican?

Why is that so hard for people to see.
It's not like he just up and left without giving it a chance.
He had no choice after the last incident.

OBAMA LEFT BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND SPEAKER'S AT TRENITY KEPT ACTING A FOOL.
It all fell back on on him
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Had nothing to do with being ashamed of JESUS. :lol:
Now they can invite whoever they want and let them say whatever they want and OBAMA is free from all that.

Obama has no control over who speak's at Trenity or what they will say.
But he would be tied to anything said or done if he stayed a member.
Now that's over.
 
Royal Blue, you are confusing God with Government.

they are not the same.:smh:

I'm not confusing God with government, but getting the point across that God is very much involved with government. What was the first thing God did when He lead the people out of Egypt? He gave them the law. Why did He give them the law? So they can be held accountable and governed by it. Where did the law come from? The law came from God. Who appointed the judges to govern the people? God appointed the judges to govern the people. Who appointed the king to rule over the people? God appointed the kings to rule over the people. Who built kingdoms up and tore them down? God built them up and tore them down. Who sold the house of Israel and the house of Judah into slavery? God sold them into slavery and released them from slavery. Who sent Israel to destroy the heathen nations? God sent Israel to destroy the heathen nations. Who sent the heathen nations to chastise the house of Israel and the house of Judah? God sent the heathen nations to punish His own people. What man is coming as King of kings and Lord of lords to govern the people? His name is Jesus Christ and he will establish a perfect government that no man can overthrow. Jesus is going to be the King and David is going to be the prince. Why is Jesus coming back as a King? The answer is in the Lord's prayer.......Thy Kingdom come. What is a Kingdom? Its a King and His dominion. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. It did not say thy will be done in heaven as it is on earth but the other way around. God is trying to tell us that He's the one who controls the foolish government in which we have today. For us to say that God should have no place in government, is like saying you should have no say over your kids room in your house. The earth is His house and He has complete control over His house. We are just foolish beings that live on it and are suppose to be doing things God's way, instead of our own. God is so good that He put His signature on our great nation.....In God We Trust. I have another one, "One Nation Under God". We can't even breathe on our own and yet we have the audacity to say what God can and shouldn't be apart of. God says that in all thy ways acknowledge Him. What part of "ALL" don't people understand? Lets keep it simple and not get caught up in the way the world thinks. We are not of the world but of Christ the King.
 
The KKK Believes that they are God fearing, so what?

When Keyes had the opportunity he did not act in the best interst of his people, so what?

Anyone can claim to be a Christian, but their actions are the most important.

America claims to be the most Christian of Christian, but WE have broken every commandment and beyond. WE HAVE NOT LOVED OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELVES, next door to our homes or the countries that border us.

A church nor minister is the religion, the religion is Christianity. The religion is following in the footsteps of Jesus in our daily actions. Jesus never had a physical bulding that he was the pastor of. His ministry was about actions and not literal bricks and mortar.

That means that the KKK are not Christians.

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Rom 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all [men]. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
 
Ya'll are going into this a little too deep..it is pretty simple. This has nothing to do with God or even Religion. The comments that the pastors have been making at his former church that keep getting brought up and thrown in the face of Obama have nothing to do with God or even Religion. All the controversial comments are political comments that just happened to be made in the church.
 
Ya'll are going into this a little too deep..it is pretty simple. This has nothing to do with God or even Religion. The comments that the pastors have been making at his former church that keep getting brought up and thrown in the face of Obama have nothing to do with God or even Religion. All the controversial comments are political comments that just happened to be made in the church.

:nod:
 



Ya'll are going into this a little too deep..it is pretty simple. This has nothing to do with God or even Religion. The comments that the pastors have been making at his former church that keep getting brought up and thrown in the face of Obama have nothing to do with God or even Religion. All the controversial comments are political comments that just happened to be made in the church.

I concur, this has turned into a prayer board discussion.

Yep.

Obama's decision had nothing to do with religion.
I was wondering how this got to that in the first place.

OBAMA left because he didn't know what would happen next in Trinity..
He has no control over what is said but he will be joined at the hip as long as he was a member.
 
Royal Blue is the one doing that. As I just told him he keeps confusing God with Government.

:emlaugh: Which begs the question, why isn't he over there with all this foolishness? Could be they don't like him either? :lmao:
 
I don't really believe Alan Keyes is an Uncle Tom. I don't use that word lightly. But the even the mainstream Republican Party view him as a cartoon character.
 
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