Obama quits church after long controversy

[bernard]

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Obama quits church after long controversy
By TOM RAUM ? 3 hours ago

ABERDEEN, S.D. (AP) ? Barack Obama has resigned his 20 year membership in the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago in the aftermath of inflammatory remarks by his longtime pastor the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and more recent fiery remarks at the church by another minister.

Obama campaign communications director Robert Gibbs said Obama had submitted a letter of resignation to the church and would discuss his decision in a session with reporters later Saturday.

It happened "over the last few days," Gibbs said.

Messages left for a church spokeswoman in Chicago were not immediately returned Saturday afternoon.

Comments by Wright have inflamed racial tensions and posed an unwanted problem for Obama, front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, as he seeks to wrap up the nomination.

More recently, racially charged remarks from the same pulpit by another pastor, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, has kept the controversy alive and proved the latest thorn in the side of Obama.

Pfleger earlier this month mocked Obama rival Hillary Rodham Clinton as a guest speaker at Obama's church.

Obama has condemned comments by both Wright and Pfleger, but the controversy has persisted.

For months, Obama has been hamstrung by the rhetoric of Wright, whose sermons blaming U.S. policies for the Sept. 11 attacks and calls of "God damn America" for its racism became fixtures on the Internet and cable news networks.

 

[bluedog]

:lmao:

 

[JROCK]

Lawd.......Obama "done" thrown a wrench in their new and improved "Liberation Theology" litmus test (formely known as the Farakhan litmus test for black candidates) :lol: :emlaugh:

 

[usm]

Obama quit Trinity because it was hurting his chances at winning the White House. Plain and simple, There is no way anyone can convince me that he does not have the same mindset that church is based off of, and that he didn't hear the anti-American and racist messages being preached there by many people over the 20 years he was a member of it.

Obama is totally unbelievable. First it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Wright. Then it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Pfleger. Lastly it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Trinity Church. :retard:

 

[crazylegs]

usm,

A question...


What does ANY of this foolishness have to do with his qualifications for being in the highest office in the land???

I mean, seriously...It's comical...Frankly it's a bit stale.


I know you like to "hit & run" with you posts, but at least indulge in answering the simple question stated above...If possible...

 

[usm]

The fact that Obama would abandon what he has purported to follow for over 20 years in the hopes that it will make him more likely to do well in the election is disgusting. Either he believes the doctrines taught there or he was there for political expedience--. I would be more comfortable with his belief than the political expedience. I fear Obama wants to be president so much that he is willing to sell his soul to become the candidate. I respect him even less today than ever before.

What will happen when the issue of gay marriage burns white hot? Resignation will not be an option for Obama and we will know more about the "center' of this new opportunity just appearing.

 

[JSU/99]

The fact that Obama would abandon what he has purported to follow for over 20 years in the hopes that it will make him more likely to do well in the election is disgusting.

This is where you're wrong. Christians follow Christ, not churches. Barack isn't abandoning the Gospel, he's leaving a church that's no longer right for him. Christians make these choices all the time. Why can't Barack?

 

[Fortitude]

Obama quit Trinity because it was hurting his chances at winning the White House. Plain and simple, There is no way anyone can convince me that he does not have the same mindset that church is based off of, and that he didn't hear the anti-American and racist messages being preached there by many people over the 20 years he was a member of it.

Obama is totally unbelievable. First it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Wright. Then it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Pfleger. Lastly it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Trinity Church. :retard:

Darling, just because one is a member of a church does NOT automatically mean they ascribe to ALL of the theologies of the PASTOR or to a greater extent their church. Should things become so skewed to where one feels the doctrine is NOT for them; they may choose to leave and find a new place of worship. There is no time limit on how long you have to be a member before you are NO LONGER able to leave a church.

Rather than just dip or stop attending service regularly; like people do, Obama chose to OFFICIALLY write a letter ending his membership.

 

[THE PVAMU]

Darling, just because one is a member of a church does NOT automatically mean they ascribe to ALL of the theologies of the PASTOR or to a greater extent their church. Should thing become so skewed to where one feels the doctrine is NOT for them; they may choose to leave and find a new place of worship. There is no time limit on how long you have to be a member before you are NO LONGER able to leave a church.

Rather than just dip or stop attending service regularly; like people do, Obama chose to OFFICIALLY right a letter ending his membership.

Exactly!!!!

 

[BG]

Why change churches if you're following Christ? You change one church, then another, then another one. I guess changing churches is not about Christianity or spirituality, it?s about CHANGE?

 

[bluedog]

Darling, just because one is a member of a church does NOT automatically mean they ascribe to ALL of the theologies of the PASTOR or to a greater extent their church. Should things become so skewed to where one feels the doctrine is NOT for them; they may choose to leave and find a new place of worship. There is no time limit on how long you have to be a member before you are NO LONGER able to leave a church.

Rather than just dip or stop attending service regularly; like people do, Obama chose to OFFICIALLY write a letter ending his membership.

You forget darling, that Hillary's followers are drones, they tend to do that. :emlaugh:

 

[bluedog]

Obama quit Trinity because it was hurting his chances at winning the White House. Plain and simple, There is no way anyone can convince me that he does not have the same mindset that church is based off of, and that he didn't hear the anti-American and racist messages being preached there by many people over the 20 years he was a member of it.

Obama is totally unbelievable. First it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Wright. Then it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Pfleger. Lastly it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Trinity Church. :retard:

How many years did it take those Preist to stop butt plugging boys? And why are they (the boys) and their parents still catholic?
:lmao:

 

[JROCK]

Obama quit Trinity because it was hurting his chances at winning the White House. Plain and simple, There is no way anyone can convince me that he does not have the same mindset that church is based off of, and that he didn't hear the anti-American and racist messages being preached there by many people over the 20 years he was a member of it.

Obama is totally unbelievable. First it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Wright. Then it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Pfleger. Lastly it took Obama 20 years to decide to quit Trinity Church. :retard:

I hope you learned something is this thread young man/woman......... :lol: :emlaugh:

It is apparent that you my friend are breaking 1 to 2 of the 7 deadly sins: Wrath/Anger :lol: :emlaugh: & Pride :smh: :lol: :emlaugh:

 

[Apaquelypse]

Just for the record, I'm with Obama......

Ok, So he quit the church. I got no problem with that. But you really think that if the chruch was bad enough for you to quit, you couldnt have figured that out say 10 years ago? maybe even 15?

You think that if they had not made such an issue about it during the last few months or so that he would have still removed himself from membership?

I personally didnt disagree with what or how the precahers said what they said. I dont think its anything to be ashamed of, but IMO for Obama leave the church right now raises my eyebrow as far as his public reason for leaving.

It says nothing, however, to me about his skills as a president. It makes me question his character a little. But Ive noticed something about the past 3 presidents and there character - it really doesnt have shat to do with being the PRESIDENT.

 

[bluedog]

Just for the record, I'm with Obama......

Ok, So he quit the church. I got no problem with that. But you really think that if the chruch was bad enough for you to quit, you couldnt have figured that out say 10 years ago? maybe even 15?

You think that if they had not made such an issue about it during the last few months or so that he would have still removed himself from membership?

I personally didnt disagree with what or how the precahers said what they said. I dont think its anything to be ashamed of, but IMO for Obama leave the church right now raises my eyebrow as far as his public reason for leaving.

It says nothing, however, to me about his skills as a president. It makes me question his character a little. But Ive noticed something about the past 3 presidents and there character - it really doesnt have shat to do with being the PRESIDENT.

Clearly you don't post much on this board and with that I'll take it that you probably don't read much on it either.

Having said that, what Barack has done (stepping out on a limb here) doesn't surprise or give question to his character for most of us.

What he did is what politicians do to secure wins, and as someone pointedly said some time ago and as most astute viewers will agree on, he's a "POLITICAIN" and nobody disagrees with that or have ever thought any different.

 

[Apaquelypse]

Clearly you don't post much on this board and with that I'll take it that you probably don't read much on it either.

Having said that, what Barack has done (stepping out on a limb here) doesn't surprise or give question to his character for most of us.

What he did is what politicians do to secure wins, and as someone pointedly said some time ago and as most astute viewers will agree on, he's a "POLITICAIN" and nobody disagrees with that or have ever thought any different.

Bluedog, i think you might have read too much into what i posted, but since you took it there lets go a few rounds?

Becase other politicians have lied their way into office, Barack should do the same? Didnt when we found out that others had lied, we felt in a sense, that we had been tricked? So because he has done like other politicians he should get a pass?

 

[bluedog]

Bluedog, i think you might have read too much into what i posted, but since you took it there lets go a few rounds?

Becase other politicians have lied their way into office, Barack should do the same? Didnt when we found out that others had lied, we felt in a sense, that we had been tricked? So because he has done like other politicians he should get a pass?

Let's be specfic here, what is it that you consider he lied about, than I'll address your question.

 

[THE PVAMU]

Let's be specfic here, what is it that you consider he lied about, than I'll address your question.

(F-the popcorn.....Grabbing beer out of fridge and "skins" off counter......)

 

[Apaquelypse]

Let's be specfic here, what is it that you consider he lied about, than I'll address your question.

Funny that you'd do that now but not before the 1st post......


Why did obama quit the church?

 

[bluedog]

Funny that you'd do that now but not before the 1st post......


Why did obama quit the church?

C'mon let's not dance around the question. Again what is it that you specifically think/feels he lied about.

 

[Apaquelypse]

You're the dancer my friend.... He just recently stated that he didnt agree with some of the doctrine that the pastors had deliverd. Theyve been preacing from those angles for years at that church and its just now a problem.

I do not honestly beleive that he is removing his membership from that church because of the indoctrines. I beleive he did it because of the pressure he felt by the majority of pepole to seperate himself from the views of the pastor because it caused skeptics to look :retard: at his beliefs

 

[J C]

He separating because of politics. Do you not think he's a politican?

 

[bluedog]

You're the dancer my friend.... He just recently stated that he didnt agree with some of the doctrine that the pastors had deliverd. Theyve been preacing from those angles for years at that church and its just now a problem.

I do not honestly beleive that he is removing his membership from that church because of the indoctrines. I beleive he did it because of the pressure he felt by the majority of pepole to seperate himself from the views of the pastor because it caused skeptics to look :retard: at his beliefs

Your post was this:

Becase other politicians have lied their way into office, Barack should do the same? Didnt when we found out that others had lied, we felt in a sense, that we had been tricked? So because he has done like other politicians he should get a pass?

Which lead me to believe you were referring to something new that I hadn't already address:

Having said that, what Barack has done (stepping out on a limb here) doesn't surprise or give question to his character for most of us.

What he did is what politicians do to secure wins, and as someone pointedly said some time ago and as most astute viewers will agree on, he's a "POLITICAIN" and nobody disagrees with that or have ever thought any different.

Now if there's nothing new that you have to bring up, I'll just move on, because it's really getting old addressing bitter Hillary Clinton supporters or those who just don't have the backbone to support a black man they way the support white candidates with the same and in most cases more faults than what they criticize him for.

Have good day my friend. :wavey:

 

[Apaquelypse]

He separating because of politics. Do you not think he's a politican?

And what I'm saying to that is this: I dont worry about Barack as a politician. I beleive he is the better of the canidates. I worry about his soul or his character as I stated before. The bible says if thou be ashamed to own me before men, I'll be ashamed to own the before my father. I dont want him or any man, woman or politician to fall between the cracks on that premise. Thats all I'm saying in the whole scheme of things for him. No disrepect entended to anyone one in the thread, regardless of how anyone feels

 

[Fortitude]

He separating because of politics. Do you not think he's a politican?

*Yawn* *Cough* You're not supposed to be ashamed of JESUS. There's nothing in there about MAN. Now, should he disown Him; I have a problem. Until then, WIN OBAMA WIN!