New season brings success for Southern, Alabama State


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New season brings success for Southern, Alabama State



By JOSEPH SCHIEFELBEIN

Advocate sportswriter

Last season, Southern and Alabama State finished with identical 6-6 records.
Come Saturday, though, the two are poised for a showdown in A.W. Mumford Stadium.

Alabama State (3-1, 1-0 Southwestern Athletic Conference) -- rapidly emerging as the story of the year in the SWAC -- and Southern (3-0, 1-0) meet at 7 p.m. in the Jaguars' first home game of the season.

The game begins a stretch of eight straight games for Southern, with five of those counting toward SWAC play. The game at Jackson State on Oct. 18 does not count.

"We're in conference play now," Southern coach Pete Richardson said. "From here on in, the games are very instrumental in our goal, which is to get to the championship (game)."

Alabama State, the Eastern Division champion in 2001, had a disastrous 2002, finishing 2-5 in SWAC play. But the Hornets' disaster on the field had nothing on what happened off the field.

ASU head coach L.C. Cole and offensive coordinator Johnnie Cole (and linebackers coach Richard Freeman) were suspended last month -- the same day as the conference's media day at which L.C. Cole participated -- in the wake of an internal investigation into the program.

ASU President Joe Lee said last week that, as a result of what was found in the probe (not disclosed by the school), the school would face "extensive fines and penalties" and likely would forfeit its 2001 Eastern Division title.

The Coles have since started a lawsuit seeking to be reinstated, with a status hearing scheduled Friday.

Meanwhile, Charlie Coe, a former Memphis assistant, was hired as interim head coach the same Monday the team was supposed to start preseason camp.

Even before the dismissal of the Coles, the team had been picked to finish fifth in the Eastern Division.

Instead, the Hornets stunned Florida A&M 38-22 to start the season. Then, ASU also nearly beat sixth-ranked Bethune-Cookman, before falling 31-26. The Hornets are on a two-game winning streak, including a 49-28 win over Alcorn State, considered a contender in the Eastern Division.

"We're talking about one of the top teams (in the Eastern Division)," Richardson said. "We have to be ready to go. We're going to find out exactly where we stand in our conference. We know we have to play hard for 60 minutes."

Southern, on the other hand, has proved little in its first three games.

The Jaguars' three wins came against teams that are a combined 3-8 (although two of those came against Division II or NAIA competition).

North Carolina A&T, a Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference team that's 2-1, looked like the toughest challenge. For a half. Then, Southern pulled out to a 32-point lead in a 35-16 win.

"The question mark people had at the beginning of the season, we answered it," Southern linebacker Kendrick Paul said. "But it's kind of in pencil. We need to put a statement on."

Still, the Jaguars have at least found momentum.

"We wanted to get off to a good start. We did that. We wanted to get out without any major injuries. We're all right from that aspect," Richardson said.

Alabama State has been solid in all three phases.

Tennessee transfer Keldrick Williams (375 yards and four touchdowns) at tailback and Arkansas transfer Tarvaris Jackson (41-for-92, 635 yards, four interceptions and four touchdowns and another 216 yards and two TDs rushing) at quarterback have solidified the offense.

"This back is really good," Paul said. "We watched him on film. He has a lot of leg power. He's real elusive. As a defense, we have to come together to stop him."

ASU also has the top three tacklers and top two sack artists in linebackers Ronald Dillon (44 tackles, five sacks) and Marcus Winn (34, five sacks) along with Amster Fertille (34 tackles). Plus, Erlin Sanders has scored on an interception return and a fumble return.

What's more, Richard Rowe, ranked fifth in Division I-AA, is averaging 21.1 yards per punt return, with one touchdown, and 23.8 per kickoff return.

"I look at this as just another game that's standing in our way of winning the championship," Southern nose tackle Perry Davis said. "We have a lot of chemistry and a lot of camaraderie on the defense. That's been working for us. Hopefully, that will stay strong and even get stronger."

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Lemme say this, what has gone on at Bama State is nothing short of remarkable to me. With all that went down, there was only 2 ways it could turn out: total disaster or what we are seeing now. Damn good job so far Bama State.

As for the game, it should be a doozy. If we were open, I'd roll down and catch that one.
 
This is not smack but I think that AlaState has got to have the upper hand in this one. They have played and beaten decent Alcorn and FAMU teams and played closely with BCC. SU on the other hand has beaten three scrub football teams. This is SU's first defensive test of the season. The SU offense is still questionable. AlaState has fewer questions at this point. If I had to call it:

AlaState 31
Southern 18
 
All I know is that we HAVE to have a better game than last week.
But I believe we'll be hyped up away.

We have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Straight up aiming at thoacks!!! (no smack)
 
You can neva count those yellas out!!! I witness Bayou Classic first hand!!
But you better believe the Hornets is gonna bring THE WOOD!!!!
 
TP you say we played three scrub teams but didn't ya'll lose to one those scrub teams second Alcorn is apparently a scrub team to according to way they have played and so is Pine Bluff a loss to a d2,but the verdict is still out on FAMU. Now for the ASU if they blitz the way they have all season I promise the score you predicted will be reversed as fer as Defense we have something we haven't had in three years team speed that is going to be a big factor in this game for both teams, but this will be settle saturday good luck to ASU but not in our house.
 
Originally posted by Bigtyme69
TP you say we played three scrub teams but didn't ya'll lose to one those scrub teams second Alcorn is apparently a scrub team to according to way they have played and so is Pine Bluff a loss to a d2,but the verdict is still out on FAMU. Now for the ASU if they blitz the way they have all season I promise the score you predicted will be reversed as fer as Defense we have something we haven't had in three years team speed that is going to be a big factor in this game for both teams, but this will be settle saturday good luck to ASU but not in our house.

Funny thing is --- when ASU does blitz they are successful.
Check the sacks... checked the rushed passes and incorrect ones.
 
Originally posted by Bigtyme69
TP you say we played three scrub teams but didn't ya'll lose to one those scrub teams

Yep,but what does that have to do with the arsewhipping you gonna take Saturday. Also, Alcorn is a decent team. It does not matter about whether SU can score against the blitz because I am sure you will. But how will SU respond when a team with an offense is lined up across from them?
 
Originally posted by Tigerpride
Yep,but what does that have to do with the arsewhipping you gonna take Saturday. Also, Alcorn is a decent team. It does not matter about whether SU can score against the blitz because I am sure you will. But how will SU respond when a team with an offense is lined up across from them?

TP, Obivously you haven't paid attention to our Defense. Oh well, we'll keep flying under the radar. You aint going to believe until Oct. 18th.
 
Nobody is sleeping on SU, it's just they haven't played anybody yet. They played three teams that combined for 1 win.
 



Originally posted by Sting
Nobody is sleeping on SU, it's just they haven't played anybody yet. They played three teams that combined for 1 win.

A&T went in the the Vegas Classic 2-0. I do concur that the other two teams were not good. I think we may be responsible for Valley's downward spiral however.

The Bama State game will be interesting. I made the comment earlier this summer that you all were my sleeper. I am aware of some outstanding transfers and players that Cole and co. was stock piling on. Outside of the off the field bruhaha, I new Bama State was taking care of business and may have been the beneficiary of some of U of Bama problems. The bad PR for State transpired well after U of A's situation.
 
Originally posted by Sting
Nobody is sleeping on SU, it's just they haven't played anybody yet. They played three teams that combined for 1 win.


So when we whup aSU on Saturday, what will all of your excuses be then. We will still have NOT played anyone?

:smh:
 
Unlike SU, ASU dominates all three phases of the game. We'll see how serious SU really is on Saturday.
 
Originally posted by Sting
Unlike SU, ASU dominates all three phases of the game. We'll see how serious SU really is on Saturday.

Unlike us huh? And what might all three phases of the game that may just be?

Team Statistics
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2003 Southwestern Athletic Conference Team Statistics Through games of Sep 21, 2003


SCORING OFFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
-----------------------------------------------------------
Southern............ 3 17 14 1 0 2 1 126 42.0
Alabama State....... 4 18 17 0 0 4 0 137 34.2
Alcorn State........ 3 11 10 1 0 5 0 93 31.0
Texas Southern...... 3 11 10 1 0 4 0 90 30.0
Grambling State..... 4 14 11 1 0 2 1 105 26.2
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 12 9 0 0 2 0 87 21.8
Alabama A&M......... 4 11 6 2 0 3 0 85 21.2
Prairie View A&M.... 3 7 7 0 0 2 0 55 18.3
Jackson State....... 4 8 6 1 0 0 0 56 14.0
Miss. Valley State.. 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 7 1.8

SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
-----------------------------------------------------------
Southern............ 3 3 2 0 0 1 0 23 7.7
Texas Southern...... 3 6 6 0 0 3 0 51 17.0
Alabama A&M......... 4 10 8 1 0 2 1 78 19.5
Jackson State....... 4 11 10 1 0 6 1 98 24.5
Grambling State..... 4 12 8 2 0 6 0 102 25.5
Alabama State....... 4 13 9 1 1 4 0 103 25.8
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 14 14 0 0 4 0 110 27.5
Alcorn State........ 3 13 11 1 0 2 1 99 33.0
Miss. Valley State.. 4 18 16 0 0 4 1 138 34.5
Prairie View A&M.... 3 20 15 0 0 0 0 135 45.0

PASS OFFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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Grambling State..... 4 208 109 4 52.4 1352 6.5 9 338.0
Southern............ 3 74 52 2 70.3 675 9.1 5 225.0
Prairie View A&M.... 3 108 60 6 55.6 647 6.0 3 215.7
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 146 65 9 44.5 862 5.9 7 215.5
Jackson State....... 4 139 69 5 49.6 849 6.1 5 212.2
Alcorn State........ 3 82 41 7 50.0 610 7.4 4 203.3
Alabama A&M......... 4 133 58 8 43.6 663 5.0 4 165.8
Alabama State....... 4 96 42 4 43.8 625 6.5 4 156.2
Miss. Valley State.. 4 108 52 5 48.1 450 4.2 0 112.5
Texas Southern...... 3 60 41 2 68.3 242 4.0 0 80.7

PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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Jackson State....... 4 87 49 3 56.3 401 4.6 1 100.2
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 107 50 9 46.7 567 5.3 4 141.8
Texas Southern...... 3 76 39 7 51.3 454 6.0 2 151.3
Miss. Valley State.. 4 114 52 7 45.6 695 6.1 6 173.8
Southern............ 3 95 43 4 45.3 528 5.6 3 176.0
Alabama A&M......... 4 134 59 5 44.0 821 6.1 6 205.2
Alabama State....... 4 118 68 6 57.6 854 7.2 6 213.5
Alcorn State........ 3 90 42 5 46.7 657 7.3 4 219.0
Prairie View A&M.... 3 79 49 2 62.0 738 9.3 7 246.0
Grambling State..... 4 145 79 4 54.5 992 6.8 5 248.0

KICKOFF RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
---------------------------------------------
Southern............ 3 6 213 1 35.5
Texas Southern...... 3 11 287 0 26.1
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 19 487 1 25.6
Jackson State....... 4 16 397 0 24.8
Alabama State....... 4 14 286 0 20.4
Miss. Valley State.. 4 22 432 0 19.6
Alcorn State........ 3 18 329 0 18.3
Alabama A&M......... 4 14 243 0 17.4
Grambling State..... 4 19 281 0 14.8
Prairie View A&M.... 3 18 259 0 14.4

PUNTING G No. Yards Avg Ret Yds Avg Net/P
-------------------------------------------------------------
Texas Southern...... 3 19 694 36.5 4 4 0.2 36.3
Alabama State....... 4 21 809 38.5 10 47 2.2 36.3
Alcorn State........ 3 17 659 38.8 9 89 5.2 33.5
Miss. Valley State.. 4 34 1201 35.3 13 77 2.3 33.1
Alabama A&M......... 4 23 834 36.3 11 105 4.6 31.7
Grambling State..... 4 19 638 33.6 10 73 3.8 29.7
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 22 740 33.6 10 98 4.5 29.2
Prairie View A&M.... 3 18 666 37.0 11 192 10.7 26.3
Southern............ 3 12 434 36.2 8 156 13.0 23.2
Jackson State....... 4 25 807 32.3 14 241 9.6 22.6

|--Gained--||---Lost---|
TURNOVER MARGIN G Fum Int Tot Fum Int Tot Mar Per/G
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Texas Southern...... 3 6 7 13 4 2 6 +7 2.33
Alabama State....... 4 11 6 17 6 4 10 +7 1.75
Southern............ 3 3 4 7 0 2 2 +5 1.67
Alcorn State........ 3 8 5 13 3 7 10 +3 1.00
Grambling State..... 4 4 4 8 6 4 10 -2 -0.50
Alabama A&M......... 4 3 5 8 3 8 11 -3 -0.75
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 5 9 14 9 9 18 -4 -1.00
Prairie View A&M.... 3 4 2 6 3 6 9 -3 -1.00
Miss. Valley State.. 4 1 7 8 7 5 12 -4 -1.00
Jackson State....... 4 2 3 5 5 5 10 -5 -1.25

RUSHING OFFENSE G Att Yds Avg TD Yds/G
-----------------------------------------------------
Texas Southern...... 3 149 674 4.5 8 224.7
Alabama A&M......... 4 158 814 5.2 7 203.5
Southern............ 3 113 588 5.2 10 196.0
Alabama State....... 4 151 780 5.2 11 195.0
Alcorn State........ 3 124 429 3.5 5 143.0
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 127 385 3.0 3 96.2
Grambling State..... 4 97 366 3.8 4 91.5
Jackson State....... 4 136 332 2.4 3 83.0
Prairie View A&M.... 3 96 213 2.2 4 71.0
Miss. Valley State.. 4 126 60 0.5 1 15.0

RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
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Southern............ 3 90 194 2.2 0 64.7
Alabama A&M......... 4 133 391 2.9 3 97.8
Grambling State..... 4 146 552 3.8 6 138.0
Alcorn State........ 3 95 420 4.4 7 140.0
Texas Southern...... 3 117 426 3.6 3 142.0
Alabama State....... 4 170 617 3.6 5 154.2
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 164 667 4.1 8 166.8
Jackson State....... 4 158 827 5.2 7 206.8
Miss. Valley State.. 4 161 920 5.7 11 230.0
Prairie View A&M.... 3 139 728 5.2 11 242.7

TOTAL OFFENSE G Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Yds/G
-------------------------------------------------------------
Grambling State..... 4 366 1352 305 1718 5.6 13 429.5
Southern............ 3 588 675 187 1263 6.8 15 421.0
Alabama A&M......... 4 814 663 291 1477 5.1 11 369.2
Alabama State....... 4 780 625 247 1405 5.7 15 351.2
Alcorn State........ 3 429 610 206 1039 5.0 9 346.3
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 385 862 273 1247 4.6 10 311.8
Texas Southern...... 3 674 242 209 916 4.4 8 305.3
Jackson State....... 4 332 849 275 1181 4.3 8 295.2
Prairie View A&M.... 3 213 647 204 860 4.2 7 286.7
Miss. Valley State.. 4 60 450 234 510 2.2 1 127.5

TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
------------------------------------------------------------
Southern............ 3 194 528 185 722 3.9 3 240.7
Texas Southern...... 3 426 454 193 880 4.6 5 293.3
Alabama A&M......... 4 391 821 267 1212 4.5 9 303.0
Jackson State....... 4 827 401 245 1228 5.0 8 307.0
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 667 567 271 1234 4.6 12 308.5
Alcorn State........ 3 420 657 185 1077 5.8 11 359.0
Alabama State....... 4 617 854 288 1471 5.1 11 367.8
Grambling State..... 4 552 992 291 1544 5.3 11 386.0
Miss. Valley State.. 4 920 695 275 1615 5.9 17 403.8
Prairie View A&M.... 3 728 738 218 1466 6.7 18 488.7

PUNT RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
---------------------------------------------
Alabama State....... 4 8 157 1 19.6
Miss. Valley State.. 4 11 161 0 14.6
Texas Southern...... 3 10 119 0 11.9
Southern............ 3 9 103 0 11.4
Grambling State..... 4 10 99 0 9.9
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 8 78 0 9.8
Prairie View A&M.... 3 2 16 0 8.0
Alabama A&M......... 4 13 73 0 5.6
Alcorn State........ 3 9 35 0 3.9
Jackson State....... 4 12 33 0 2.8

PASS EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Pct Int Yds TD Effic
-----------------------------------------------------------
Southern............ 3 74 52 .703 2 675 5 163.8
Grambling State..... 4 208 109 .524 4 1352 9 117.4
Alcorn State........ 3 82 41 .500 7 610 4 111.5
Jackson State....... 4 139 69 .496 5 849 5 105.6
Prairie View A&M.... 3 108 60 .556 6 647 3 103.9
Alabama State....... 4 96 42 .438 4 625 4 103.9
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 146 65 .445 9 862 7 97.6
Texas Southern...... 3 60 41 .683 2 242 0 95.5
Alabama A&M......... 4 133 58 .436 8 663 4 83.4
Miss. Valley State.. 4 108 52 .481 5 450 0 73.9

PASS DEF EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Effic
-----------------------------------------------------------
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 4 107 50 9 46.7 567 4 86.8
Texas Southern...... 3 76 39 7 51.3 454 2 91.8
Jackson State....... 4 87 49 3 56.3 401 1 91.9
Southern............ 3 95 43 4 45.3 528 3 93.9
Miss. Valley State.. 4 114 52 7 45.6 695 6 101.9
Alabama A&M......... 4 134 59 5 44.0 821 6 102.8
Alcorn State........ 3 90 42 5 46.7 657 4 111.5
Grambling State..... 4 145 79 4 54.5 992 5 117.8
Alabama State....... 4 118 68 6 57.6 854 6 125.0
Prairie View A&M.... 3 79 49 2 62.0 738 7 164.7


All together now......"BUT YA' AIN'T PLAYED NOBODY YET!!"
 
Originally posted by Sting
Tell me you're not bringing up stats from games against Pv, Vallet and A&T.

Tell me your not that out of touch with reality

Southwestern Athletic Conference - 2003
Alabama State


Aug 30, 2003 vs Florida A&M W 38-22 record 2-2

Sep 06, 2003 vs Bethune-Cookman 26-31 L
(overated hasn't played and won't play a top 25 team this year)

* Sep 13, 2003 ALCORN STATE W 49-28 record 1-2

Sep 20, 2003 at Ark.-Pine Bluff W 24-22 record 1-3
 
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