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Game smack is one thing fellas. If you have something personal to say to/about each other. Take it to PM's or e-mails. I wanna hear about the game, not 2 grown men arguing about stuff that had nothing to do with week 3 in Vegas.

Consider this the warning.

S Phi S
 
Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
So am I lying? Everything SU played from the kickoff though the middle of the 4th quarter was clean and powerful like it was at the BOTB? They started on time every time, and there were no phrasing problems at all?


A&T had no problems what so ever.....A&T was soooo clean, A7T was 3 time more powerful than SU at the game.......

A&T didn't have folk snapping picture of SU during the game...Because you all have SOooooo much discipline....

And if you think SU don't have discipline you are a bigger dummy than that nutridder BANDFAN...:lmao:
 



Originally posted by s phi s
Game smack is one thing fellas. If you have something personal to say to/about each other. Take it to PM's or e-mails. I wanna hear about the game, not 2 grown men arguing about stuff that had nothing to do with week 3 in Vegas.

Consider this the warning.

S Phi S

I been through with putting his CREDITIALS out.......Get someone to post the clips, cause he ain't gonna tell the truth....

SU gets better every week.....The was he talk, PV didn't really see SU last week....:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by BandFan
but you were there so you saw everything.

Stop riding my nutts with your lame personal attacks. Dont ever disrespect the Psi Phi young kat.


Ain't nobody personally attacking you.....This is a band forum, SO on here DON'T EVER DISRESPECT MY BAND...especially since you were never apart of one!!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
Keep dancing around my point...you know I am telling the truth.

This is useless.


You have no point, you have yet to point out what SU had over A&T, I am dieing to hear you lie and say they didn't have anything over A&T........

Go ahead lie...:rolleyes:

A&T field show was much cleaner than SU's....:rolleyes: come on lets hear it....:rolleyes:
 
So nothing he said was true right?

Added to the fact dayum near everyone says SU had more power..


Originally posted by VegasVikingFirst of all everyone, this is my first post so please bear with me. I often just read these forums without posting, but I couldn't hold back on this one.

Let me preface this by stating that I have no allegiance or bias to either A&T or SU. I am a 1996 graduate of ECSU that currently lives in Las Vegas. I marched for ECSU from 92-94. My unbiased opinion follows:

Friday Night BOTB:
A&T really got the crowd on their feet with their entrance. Everyone was popping 90's and their dance break was hot. SU just marched in and took their seats. The crowd was expecting a little more from SU at that point.

Once in the stands, A&T took an early lead. They have GREAT sound and were well polished. On one of SU's first songs (the name escapes me), they botched the beginning. Apparently there was a miscue on when to begin the chorus. It was obvious to everyone in the arena.

Shortly after, the tide began to turn. SU began to win the crowd over when the guy sang "Turn Out the Lights." Also, SU's male dance troupe got the crowd on their feet. These in my opinion were "gimmicks" but did have positive effects in SU's favor.

After this, A&T's song selection hurt them. "How Can I Ease the Pain" was a beautiful arrangement, but not what I would've played in a BOTB, especially after SU had just gotten the crowd hyped. I have to give SU credit for "In Those Jeans."

Overall BOTB analysis:
Musicianship - A&T
Crowd Appeal - SU
Drumline Battle - SU

The Game:
I didn't get a good view of the battle in the stands so I'll reserve my comments to the field show.

Once again, great sound by A&T. Their drill on the other hand was horrible. Lines were crooked. One of their trombones needs his scholarship taken. He didn't know the drill OR the dance break and kept bumping into the trombone beside him.

Someone mentioned earlier in this post that it was the same old show from SU. This much is true. Their drill, the score formation, and the fat white kid dancing.......nothing new from SU. Their star formation was crooked on the left side at one point, but overall they were much more technical and precise than A&T. Once again SU won the crowd over with their dance break. Unfortunately, this Vegas crowd cares little about anything besides the dance routine.

Neither band was just spectacular on the field, but I'd have to give a slight edge to SU because of A&T's miscues.

Take this as you will. Just my unbiased, honest opinion.
 
Originally posted by BandFan
Stop riding my nutts with your lame personal attacks. Dont ever disrespect the Psi Phi young kat.



Let's keep this clean, guys!!!

SUtrp, you've made your point!!! We all know that you are a "True Defender of the Blue and Gold."
... but BandFan is still entitled to his own opinion--- whether he was in the band or NOT!!!--- doesn't matter. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has got'em!


Let's show some respect, EVERYONE! Smack is one thing but these personal attacks/hostility/extreme profanity needs to cease.
 
Originally posted by SUtrp96
You have no point, you have yet to point out what SU had over A&T, I am dieing to hear you lie and say they didn't have anything over A&T........

Go ahead lie...:rolleyes:

A&T field show was much cleaner than SU's....:rolleyes: come on lets hear it....:rolleyes:
You said I couldn't name one thing A&T had over SU. I gave you 2.

You dont dispute the points I made, so you must be dancing around them because you quietly agree with me.
 
Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
You said I couldn't name one thing A&T had over SU. I gave you 2.

You dont dispute the points I made, so you must be dancing around them because you quietly agree with me.


Intensity on every son gin the stands is something SU trademarks. so of course I dispute that....Discipline, every that faces SU every year knows that statement is lack luster, so why replie to that.....

I ain't hear to knock A&T....But I am here to stop BS in it's tracks when I here some BS.....You boys coe over here like A&T put somethng on SU, and SU ain't do nothing about..I would believe the exact opposite....But it ai't even go down like that.... And you got clown walkn all over the 5th Q talking about SU took a PHAT L..

Rule one~ BE REAL
 
Classic Nomination.

Nita,
When the boys are finished talking about each other, Could you move this thread to the Classic Area. This Ness is too funny. :lol:
 
Once again....

Clips of the entire BOTB are up on the5th quarter.

Can't argue with clips.....much.

SU's P.I.M.P. at the BOTB - the one from the game was much better....

OH MY DAYUM. SU's Can You Feel It....

A&T's 'Velvet Rope' - WHOAH!!!

A&T's Neck, though I liked the one at the game better


Oh yeah, here's the link to the whole thing.....HERE WE GO!!!

Enjoy.

I saw a good game this weekend (Howard vs Hampton), but I wish I was in Vegas for this one.

GOMAB Fiyah. I been busy with life, but I stick my head in errynowandagain over here.

docmump - sup frat ?
 
Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
Things A&T clearly had over SU:

Discipline in the stands.
A&T looked and sounded like one unit all weekend. SU was starting songs before everyone was ready (weak opening to the first song they played at the BOTB, fight song a few times during the game) Also, why cant everybody do the "defense, JAGS, defense"? Most of the brass would stand up and do it, but only 3 or 4 of the woodwinds would stand up and participate. That looked somewhat tacky across the field. We would have gotten our arses kicked for trying some mess like that...

First off, Southern only missed the tempo on one song. Not songs. Just one. And they still out-housed ya'll at the BOTB's. Don't worry about what goes on in the Juke. Just because everyone doesn't do "Defense, Jags, Defense" doesn't mean we don't have discipline. You got more excuses than the Florida vote count.

Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
Intensity in the stands...on every song.
We know what SU is capable of, and when they crank it up, very few bands can match that power. The problem was that they sounded like they were under water and garbled during the game until the last half of the 4th quarter. Why is that? SU sounded "lazy" in the stands. That commitment to excellence that I saw in '94 (when I was marching) wasnt there on Saturday.

By the way...what did yall think of A&T's trombones? :)

We both know that's a lie. Pound for pound the Jukebox has way more intensity than A&T. We are the original power house. There is nothing you can tell us about intensity. Especially Vegas night. 94.....2003. It's 9 years later and you're talking about a whole different group of people. You A&T folks are regular rocket scientists I tell you.

Just like A&T to try to point out sections. When you speak of the Jukebox, it's the whole band.

SMH @ A&T's hick-town logic.
 
SU is known for intensity. That is one thing that I have always respected about SU's program. I have been to quite a few SWAC games (those that know me know I been all over the place).

Question: were you at the game? Are you arguing about SU's reputation or what actually happened at the game. In the past, SU had intensity in the stands with everything they came with. Saturday it just wasnt there.

I challenge any unbiased person that was at the game (not marching in either band) to tell me that SU was intense throughout the whole game, and not just the last part of the 4th quarter.

Call me a liar.
 



Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
SU is known for intensity. That is one thing that I have always respected about SU's program. I have been to quite a few SWAC games (those that know me know I been all over the place).

Question: were you at the game? Are you arguing about SU's reputation or what actually happened at the game. In the past, SU had intensity in the stands with everything they came with. Saturday it just wasnt there.

I challenge any unbiased person that was at the game (not marching in either band) to tell me that SU was intense throughout the whole game, and not just the last part of the 4th quarter.

Call me a liar.

LIAR


Still waiting to hear the negatives on A&T....there are too many for you not to have mentioned one........

Like some of them SLAW arrangements......

"NECK" was SLOPPY

"Out on a LIMB" sound like the arranger heard it over a cell phone ONE TIME, and not even the whole song..

"Can you Feel it" sound like it came from a REMIX track from a Jackson family reunion a year ago......


Lets talk about you all NOTICABLE CROOKED lines on the field....

Lack of house on the field.......


Lack of house at the BOTB.......

If you listen to all of those clips you can clearly hear SU more intense than A&T.........

once again...

LIAR!!!!!
 
Re: Once again....

Originally posted by TheBionicSIGMA

GOMAB Fiyah. I been busy with life, but I stick my head in errynowandagain over here.

docmump - sup frat ?
Nothing much. Where are you from Frat?
 
Originally posted by SUtrp96
LIAR

If you listen to all of those clips blah blah blah.........
I see you dont follow intructions that well, son.

Were you at the game? Are you doing all this gum flappin from a tape????? :lmao:

I want to hear from somebody who sat through the whole game and heard all the songs SU played, not just 1 or 2 from the last half of the 4th quarter.

SU96, why is there nobody that was in attendance backing you up? Why wont anybody that was there tell me I'm wrong about SU's intensity in the stands? Didnt at least one person from this board make the trip?

Why are they so silent? hmmmmm........
 
Re: Re: Once again....

Originally posted by docmump
Nothing much. Where are you from Frat?

Bro. Kerry Gilliard ( the same from http://zpbstimes.org that hasn't been updated since Charles I. was active....:D ), Delta Mu Chapter up at Bowie State University. Soon to be @ Tri-Sigma in Mont. Co. MD.

Yourself ?
 
Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
I see you dont follow intructions that well, son.

Were you at the game? Are you doing all this gum flappin from a tape????? :lmao:

I want to hear from somebody who sat through the whole game and heard all the songs SU played, not just 1 or 2 from the last half of the 4th quarter.

SU96, why is there nobody that was in attendance backing you up? Why wont anybody that was there tell me I'm wrong about SU's intensity in the stands? Didnt at least one person from this board make the trip?

Why are they so silent? hmmmmm........

There are people that made the trip I have heard from, and what they say isn't what you are saying.....The guy who I got the tape from, for one. The only person that is backing you up is a known LIAR...... And ain't said all what you are saying....He done when back and changed his words so many times it really doesn't matter....

I still challange you to point out A&T flaws.....

We heard SU few mistakes.....
1. Band wasn't set up to come in together on "P.I.M.P"...Things happens to the best of them.....
2. Intensity, so you say.......since you were able to determine this you had to be on A&T side of the field RIGHT?

So did you take the trip over on the other side to gather the facts on A&T....from TV and the TAPE A&T didn't have the intensity SU had at that game.....Anyone with a Tub can tell you that.... Plus a person that was there says the same about A&T as what you are saying about SU....


Be a man a critque A&T.....It's soo much you can say....:rolleyes:
~1~
 
Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta
SU is known for intensity. That is one thing that I have always respected about SU's program. I have been to quite a few SWAC games (those that know me know I been all over the place).

Question: were you at the game? Are you arguing about SU's reputation or what actually happened at the game. In the past, SU had intensity in the stands with everything they came with. Saturday it just wasnt there.

I challenge any unbiased person that was at the game (not marching in either band) to tell me that SU was intense throughout the whole game, and not just the last part of the 4th quarter.

Call me a liar.
Man...Juke, he's talking about song like "Before I Let Go". Songs SU lights fire to, but doesn't blow up.

A&T Brand.....songs like those don't get cranked on anymore. If you were as observant as you think you are....you'd notice that SU has taken that mentality for a few years now. Truss....it's still some ol'skool Juke that haven't gotten used to that yet.

Oh you'll know when the JUkebox really cranks......and, you saw that at the game. Now, call me a liar.....and, I don't have to be at the game for me to put it out there like that.

See....this is where we as Jukes get uncomfortable with those outside of the Juke. if the "U" didn't do that (moderate volume).....everyone would swear SU doesn't play with dynamics (the "yall blast everything" crap). Now, they're wondering why SU doesn't crank on ever song (the ol' "Jukebox ain't what they used to be" bit)....and, that's just down right hypocritical.

I guess that's the price you pay for being the best at what you do. You get nit-picked on constantly. And, when the other band does a decent job....they're ready to be given the "W".


PS- I still haven't heard anyone from A&T address these arrangments.
 
This thing is deeper than I thought

Man,

I thought WE were bad about things like this. *smh*

I was at both the BOTB (middle of the floor), as well as the game (on the field), and was impressed by BOTH bands.

Less the miscue on the song by SU at the BOTB, I thought the band battle was intense, extremely intense, and no band was CLEARLY better than the other. Southern had good strong songs, so did A&T. I thought Southern was more entertaining at the BOTB (the soloist, guys doing the routine on the floor, Dancing Dolls), but I thought A&T repped, as well.

Game time:

I understand where BOTH groups are coming from when they talk about the game, and they look at things from two different standpoints.

FIRST, Southern has some amps, you can't take that away from them. So does A&T.

A&T played more often during the game, but I was told that they got a couple of warnings for doing so.

When Southern wanted to open up, they did. A&T was open pretty much the whole game.

Halftime:

Southern did their typical drill, and it went over well. That's not to take away from what they did, as they do it well. Crowds eat up the way SU puts the score on the field. The DM for SU was good. I actually had a chance to meet the brother. Real cool person. The Dancing Dolls did great. I enjoyed the routine. Everything that Southern did, I had seen before, so there was nothing that was new to me. I enjoyed their show, though.

A&T's drum majors had a nice opening to the halftime show. The drill went well, and Golden Delight (their auxiliary unit) did a really good job. The sound from A&T was nice, as was Southern's, and the dance routine went over well. I enjoyed A&T's show.

As far as who did better, it's not for me to say, and it's really not that important to me, as BOTH bands gave those in attendance great performances, both on the field, and in the stands. I'll have to give it to A&T's trombones, though. They were playing non-stop. Great selection of fanfares.

Go ahead, rip up my comments. I really don't care, as it's not that deep to me.

Congrats again to both bands. The fans really enjoyed your shows, and you repped HBCU bands well this past weekend.

Peace.
 
Re: Classic Nomination.

Originally posted by docmump
Nita,
When the boys are finished talking about each other, Could you move this thread to the Classic Area. This Ness is too funny. :lol:
Co-signing!!!!
This is one of the wildest and absolutely funniest thread I have ever read.
Die Hard Fans !!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
Re: Re: Classic Nomination.

Originally posted by Legend35
Co-signing!!!!
This is one of the wildest and absolutely funniest thread I have ever read.
Die Hard Fans !!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Picture it in your mind...sixty years from now.....two 80 something year old men, Bandfan and SUtrp96 sitting in their wheelchairs in a nursing home arguing over who had the better band in 2003!!

:lmao: :p
 
Re: Re: Re: Once again....

Originally posted by TheBionicSIGMA
Bro. Kerry Gilliard ( the same from http://zpbstimes.org that hasn't been updated since Charles I. was active....:D ), Delta Mu Chapter up at Bowie State University. Soon to be @ Tri-Sigma in Mont. Co. MD.

Yourself ?

What's up Ker...Err...Frat. I am from that Beta Delta Chapta, Texas Southern Univ. Even though my money goes to Alpha Beta Sigma, my heart is still with the B.D.

Frat, I love your site. I have been there too many times in the past. I was wondering when you will update the site?
 
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