MVSU vs UCLA game updates


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Mr. Tiger said:
Everyone knows UCLA has more talent and SWAC teams can't shoot from outside, that's why they need to run and stay out of the half court game. They have a better chance running than jacking up 3-pointers.
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And getting the rebounds. SU shot 29% vs GT but killed them on the boards. By the 2nd half, GT's bigs were dead tired from all the running SU did them.

But they kill me, slowing the game down, letting teams set their defense up, when you don't have great shooters :retard: .
 



SUjagTILLiDIE said:
And getting the rebounds. SU shot 29% vs GT but killed them on the boards. By the 2nd half, GT's bigs were dead tired from all the running SU did them.

But they kill me, slowing the game down, letting teams set their defense up, when you don't have great shooters :retard: .
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If Valley tries to run, that does not work either because the move would playing right into the hands of UCLA. They have too many great athletes for Valley to use that game-plan. And because Valley does not shoot well from the outside, would create easy fastbreak chances for the Bruins. When you are playing a great team, you have to slow the game to limit their possesions on the offensive end.
 
kendrick said:
If Valley tries to run, that does not work either because the move would playing right into the hands of UCLA. They have too many great athletes for Valley to use that game-plan. And because Valley does not shoot well from the outside, would create easy fastbreak chances for the Bruins. When you are playing a great team, you have to slow the game to limit their possesions on the offensive end.
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We can agree to disagree on that, but down 40-16 at halftime does Valley really have anything to lose trying to push the ball. At least go out saying I tried to throw everything at them but the kitchen sink.
 
kendrick said:
If Valley tries to run, that does not work either because the move would playing right into the hands of UCLA. They have too many great athletes for Valley to use that game-plan. And because Valley does not shoot well from the outside, would create easy fastbreak chances for the Bruins. When you are playing a great team, you have to slow the game to limit their possesions on the offensive end.
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Valley doesn't have the type of players to run Jobe's or the old SWAC style. The thing is we still can get those players, but our administration(SU atleast) wants to play "white folks ball", and none of our fans are interested in seeing that shat, thus the poor attendence. You don't need super stars or great shooters. All you need is quick players. I want shoot that thing every 8 seconds back.
 
Mr. Tiger said:
We can agree to disagree on that, but down 40-16 at halftime does Valley really have anything to lose trying to push the ball. At least go out saying I tried to throw everything at them but the kitchen sink.
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The problem is...UCLA has too many athletes. I don't think Valley is scared or anything, the Bruins are just better.
 
Mr. Tiger said:
We can agree to disagree on that, but down 40-16 at halftime does Valley really have anything to lose trying to push the ball. At least go out saying I tried to throw everything at them but the kitchen sink.
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I agree... at this point it's like playing XBOX... You just start throwing it up.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
And getting the rebounds. SU shot 29% vs GT but killed them on the boards. By the 2nd half, GT's bigs were dead tired from all the running SU did them.

But they kill me, slowing the game down, letting teams set their defense up, when you don't have great shooters :retard: .
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did you watch the Black Magic documentary at all.. You cant compare what was done in the 80s and early 90s to what we have now.... we are getting nowhere near the same caliber athlete. Jobe said it, McClendon said it, and Big House Gaines said it. Why do you think Big House Gaines career ended the way it did (Jobe also)... why do you think Jobes career ended with VERY subpar years at SU and Tuskegee? Things that where done back then DONT work in this time.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
Valley doesn't have the type of players to run Jobe's or the old SWAC style. The thing is we still can get those players, but our administration(SU atleast) wants to play "white folks ball", and none of our fans are interested in seeing that shat, thus the poor attendence. You don't need super stars or great shooters. All you need is quick players. I want Swac ball back.
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That white folk ball is helping UCLA add to a 25-point lead and almost helped Belmont upset Duke.
 
kendrick said:
That white folk ball is helping UCLA add to a 25-point lead and almost helped Belmont upset Duke.
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And when we were playing SWAC Ball, SU beat GT 93, the next year Texas Southern 94 lost to the eventual champion Arkansas by 1, TSU missed Free throws @ the end.
 
DAHILL said:
did you watch the Black Magic documentary at all.. You cant compare what was done in the 80s and early 90s to what we have now.... we are getting nowhere near the same caliber athlete. Jobe said it, McClendon said it, and Big House Gaines said it. Why do you think Big House Gaines career ended the way it did (Jobe also)... why do you think Jobes career ended with VERY subpar years at SU and Tuskegee? Things that where done back then DONT work in this time.
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When Jobe took over the second time @ SU, SU had no talent, and certainly wasn't Jobe's type of players. Jobes second team was all freshmen.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
And when we were playing SWAC Ball, SU beat GT 93, the next year Texas Southern 94 lost to the eventual champion Arkansas by 1, TSU missed Free throws @ the end.
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I don't know what "SWAC Ball" is, but it has not resulted in a SWAC team making a deep run in the NCAA tourney. Like I keep saying, UCLA has better players than Valley does. The style does not matter, it's all about execution and making shots. How do you expect Valley to make shots when the game speeds up, and they can't make shots when the game slows down?
 
kendrick said:
I don't know what "SWAC Ball" is, but it has not resulted in a SWAC team making a deep run in the NCAA tourney. Like I keep saying, UCLA has better players than Valley does. The style does not matter, it's all about execution and making shots. How do you expect Valley to make shots when the game speeds up, and they can't make shots when the game slows down?
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SU won. ALcorn won, and alot of the games were under 10 points. Now since we change our style, we can't get the same players.
 
kendrick said:
I don't know what "SWAC Ball" is, but it has not resulted in a SWAC team making a deep run in the NCAA tourney. Like I keep saying, UCLA has better players than Valley does. The style does not matter, it's all about execution and making shots. How do you expect Valley to make shots when the game speeds up, and they can't make shots when the game slows down?
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Did you see any Swac games pre 96. If not please don't comment.
 



SUjagTILLiDIE said:
Did you see any Swac games pre 96. If not please don't comment.
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I was like 13 in 1996, so no. But it does not take a basketball savant to figure out that UCLA is winning because they have better players....The style don't matter. Valley just screwed up a 2-on-1 fastbreak. So that running theory is not working out so well. Valley, just like almost all HBCU schools, need better players.

And darn what the fans think about they style of play. It works when you are playing in the SWAC and the players skill level is about the same, but it don't work when you are a No. 16 playing a No.1 with All-Americans on the court.
 
kendrick said:
I was like 13 in 1996, so no. But it does not take a basketball savant to figure out that UCLA is winning because they have better players....The style don't matter. Valley just screwed up a 2-on-1 fastbreak. So that running theory is not working out so well. Valley, just like almost all HBCU schools, need better players.

And darn what the fans think about they style of play. It works when you are playing in the SWAC and the players skill level is about the same, but it don't work when you are a No. 16 playing a No.1 with All-Americans on the court.
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GT had better players than SU in 93 but they tried to run with SU and paid for it. Again, Valley isn't use to running, and their system or players doesn't fit it. SU had a system and stuck to it. Shoot every 8 seconds. Get 90 plus shoots per game. Force tempo. Out rebound your opponent. Make them run. Most team got caught up in SU's game and by the second half, the other team had no legs. Running neutralizes height, strength, and shooting. All you need is quickness. SU bigs(6-7,6-6) were always quicker than their opponets and Jobe knew how to use it to his advantage. Run the other teams bigs to death.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
GT had better players than SU in 93 but they tried to run with SU and paid for it. Again, Valley isn't use to running, and their system or players doesn't fit it. SU had a system and stuck to it. Shoot every 8 seconds. Get 90 plus shoots per game. Force tempo. Out rebound your opponent. Make them run. Most team got caught up in SU's game and by the second half, the other team had no legs. Running neutralizes height, strength, and shooting.
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Exactly. If you don't have the horses you can't play their game. There are plenty of undersized and quick players we can recruit. I'm going to be honest, any kid that is 7-foot and going to a SWAC school isn't even a project, he is a reject. :smh:

57-25 UCLA. Will Valley even score 35 points? :smh:
 
Valley, you should've let JSU win. We'd have more than 30 points by now. You can't throw it in the dayum ocean. I mean wide open shots. Dayum!!!
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
GT had better players than SU in 93 but they tried to run with SU and paid for it. Again, Valley isn't use to running, and their system or players doesn't fit it. SU had a system and stuck to it. Shoot every 8 seconds. Get 90 plus shoots per game. Force tempo. Out rebound your opponent. Make them run. Most team got caught up in SU's game and by the second half, the other team had no legs. Running neutralizes height, strength, and shooting. All you need is quickness. SU bigs(6-7,6-6) were always quicker than their opponets and Jobe knew how to use it to his advantage. Run the other teams bigs to death.
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How many national championships, sweet 16, Elite Eight and Final Four appearances were accomplished with that style with those players?
 
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