MVSU may have played ineligible player against JSU





WOW I wish there were a game play by play like in football to see what was recorded. The scorebook is what's considered official, though.
 
But after watching the film. Brent can clearly see that he was ineligible to return even though he knew during the game but couldn't do anything about it.
 
Well...I guess Valley will be instructed to write a letter to Brent saying they are sorry this happened.
 
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I knew it was something wrong in that game but just couldn't put my finger on it after watching the game live on Valley's streaming site. The first indication I got that something wrong had actually occurred was from hearing comments about it by JSU's play by play guys during their broadcast of the UAPB game last night.
 
Tyler Cleveland , The Clarion-Ledger11:38 a.m. CT March 3, 2017

The Southwestern Athletic Conference said it has taken action to prevent the kind of oversight that might have cost Jackson State a win over Mississippi Valley State Saturday in Itta Bena.

Delta Devils star Marcus Romain played the final 3:11 of the contest and part of the overtime period despite picking up his fifth foul three minutes earlier.

The league issued a statement Friday acknowledging the score-keeping error that led to confusion during the game, which MVSU won 70-63.

It wasn't the controversial fifth foul that was not counted, the statement said, but his second, which came with 14 minutes left in the first half. That foul was not recorded in the official scorekeeper's book nor in the statisticians's electronic scoring.

The league, in conjunction with Valley officials, said it had "taken the steps needed to rectify the situation so that this does not occur again in the future."

That's little consolation for Jackson State coach Wayne Brent, who saw the events unfolding during the game and protested Valley coach Andre Payne's attempt to sub Romain back into the game. The officials ultimately deferred to the scorer's table.

"It was clear as day he had fouled out of the game," Brent said.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/.../03/03/swac-responds-jsu-mvsu-snafu/98690396/
 



Nothing more than better training on conducting the stats for the game.

Was Jackson State's SID on the road with basketball? If so, that's on him/her too. You got to keep a book when you are the road SID so you can defend your basketball program and if something like that is going on, you need to take action on the spot.

There's at least three people at most games who could be alerted to something like this - the SID(s) for both home/road teams, the official scorer and the statistician. They all clearly screwed up.

In my years as an SID, I've on at least one occasion got a technical charged against another team and in my years out of the business while serving as a statistician and an official scorer, have corrected the officials on multiple occasions.
 
JSU's SID doesn't travel to every away basketball game, so your point about addressing the issue "on the spot" is moot.
 
In my years as an SID, I've on at least one occasion got a technical charged against another team and in my years out of the business while serving as a statistician and an official scorer, have corrected the officials on multiple occasions.

That don't matter to swac refs, I've seen the official scorer stop play seconds into the 2nd half to tell them they gave the ball to the wrong team and they just ignored them and started play over with the ball given to the wrong team.
 
That don't matter to swac refs, I've seen the official scorer stop play seconds into the 2nd half to tell them they gave the ball to the wrong team and they just ignored them and started play over with the ball given to the wrong team.

That error is not correctable. They didn't ignore it. Just nothing they could do about it once it occurred.
 
That error is not correctable. They didn't ignore it. Just nothing they could do about it once it occurred.

That's not what the swac ref rep said. He told me they could have corrected the error since no points or fouls was called during that small amount of time.
 
That is incorrect, per the rules. Logic says yes, and I agree that LOGICALLY that should be the case. But by the rulebook, if you catch it before it happens, reverse it. But once the throw in occurs, it is not a correctable error. For what it's worth, the officials acknowledged that they got it wrong, but said the same thing. They can't correct it. There are only 5 correctable errors in basketball. 4 of them deal with free throws and the other is mistakenly counting or cancelling a basket.
 
That is incorrect, per the rules. Logic says yes, and I agree that LOGICALLY that should be the case. But by the rulebook, if you catch it before it happens, reverse it. But once the throw in occurs, it is not a correctable error. For what it's worth, the officials acknowledged that they got it wrong, but said the same thing. They can't correct it. There are only 5 correctable errors in basketball. 4 of them deal with free throws and the other is mistakenly counting or cancelling a basket.

Actually there are more than that since they can now go to video to review calls and correct them.
 
But those are not "correctable errors". In addition, there are limited situations that can be reviewed, and the possession arrow does not fall under any of them.

https://ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdf

Rule 11 states that video can be used for free throws (which is where 4 of the correctable errors are), scoring (whether it was a 2 or 3), timing, fouls (important to note that only fouls called can be reviewed, except in the instance of a fight, and violations in the last 2 minutes (shot clock or out of bounds off 2 or more players). The AP mistake you are referencing is simply not correctable under any portion of the rules. Bad job all around on that one, but nothing can be done about it.
 
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