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I think we can agree to disagree on this one. India Arie sucks so bad. She has zero personality. Her music is dull and bland. She should play spoken word taverns. YAWN!!!

Erykah Badu has the live show thing locked up!!! Her shows are awesome!!! Nuff said. Jill's cds are cool but she needs more work on her stage show.

Alicia Keys...boy I'll be glad when this one hit wonder's 5 minutes of fame are up. If I hear Failling one more time!!!

Mary J. Blige never professed to be the greatest singer alive. But she has gotten a lot better. She is awesome in concert. She gives her all. She is a performer.

On the male side...I think Usher is the best performer out right now. Usher has a big career ahead of him.

Originally posted by BandFan


India plays the Guitar, trumpet, Mellophone/F-horn, drums, clarinet. That sista got skills. I believe she played in the Jazz band at some Atlanta high school.

UNINSPIRING!?!?!?! WHAT?!?! That sista talks about TRUE Black Love!!!!! That one song called "Part of My Life" needs to be played to every sista on the planet. She respect black men for who we are, not just bodies (even though I work hard on mine) but for our Soul, Mind, and Spirit.
If you just listened to "Video" then you havent caught all of India.Arie. She is the TRUTH!!!!
 
Originally posted by NASTYNUPE
I think we can agree to disagree on this one. India Arie sucks so bad. She has zero personality. Her music is dull and bland. She should play spoken word taverns. YAWN!!!

Erykah Badu has the live show thing locked up!!! Her shows are awesome!!! Nuff said. Jill's cds are cool but she needs more work on her stage show.

Alicia Keys...boy I'll be glad when this one hit wonder's 5 minutes of fame are up. If I hear Failling one more time!!!

Mary J. Blige never professed to be the greatest singer alive. But she has gotten a lot better. She is awesome in concert. She gives her all. She is a performer.

On the male side...I think Usher is the best performer out right now. Usher has a big career ahead of him.


Mary J has gotten better. Alicia Keys need to sit her arse down somewhere. Badu is one of my all time favorites.

I can't stand Usher, but I can't deny that he is talented and has a huge career ahead of him.
 



Originally posted by NASTYNUPE
I think we can agree to disagree on this one. India Arie sucks so bad. She has zero personality. Her music is dull and bland. She should play spoken word taverns. YAWN!!!
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We will have to agree to disagree, cause India is GREAT
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Erykah Badu has the live show thing locked up!!! Her shows are awesome!!! Nuff said. Jill's cds are cool but she needs more work on her stage show.
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I was threw with Jill from Video/song one. Im not that Impressed with her
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Alicia Keys...boy I'll be glad when this one hit wonder's 5 minutes of fame are up. If I hear Failling one more time!!!
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This chick is getting on my nerves. I cant wait till that second album flops!!! :redhot:
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Mary J. Blige never professed to be the greatest singer alive. But she has gotten a lot better. She is awesome in concert. She gives her all. She is a performer.
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If this chick catches the HOLY GHOST one more Time on Stage!!! :lmao:
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On the male side...I think Usher is the best performer out right now. Usher has a big career ahead of him.

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Usher???????????? That niggra need to sit his Pupput master looking arse down. Can Mike have his moves back please. Usher would fit right in with B2K, g_y with abs.!!!!! He is ridiculous!!
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Jill doesn't need to do any more videos. The songs are cool but she doesn't have that look. Usher seems to be the second coming of MJ, but I wouldn't put him in the B2K category. At least he can actually sing and put on a show.

When it comes to showstopping females, if it ain't Janet, I don't want it.
 
Buddy if you think Jill doesn't have that look, then you must haven't seen India Arie. She's not your average girl on the video you know.

I put Janet and Brittany Spears in the same category. They can dance...they spend huge amounts of money on explosions, dancers, monkies, etc...BUT THEY CAN'T SING!!!

I need an artist on stage with a band ripping it up LIVE!!! I like to hear live versions of the songs. I can stay at home to hear someone lip sync.

Anita Baker send help!!!

Originally posted by s phi s
Jill doesn't need to do any more videos. The songs are cool but she doesn't have that look. Usher seems to be the second coming of MJ, but I wouldn't put him in the B2K category. At least he can actually sing and put on a show.

When it comes to showstopping females, if it ain't Janet, I don't want it.
 
India.Arie is TIGHT

BandFan's said it best, so I don't need to say any more. Just wanted to voice my agreement. If you want to hear something inspiring, go to India.Arie - well, her & Gospel ;) She can hold her own with Erykah & Jill; all great artists with loads of talent.

I'm just tired of all these artists who have s phi s's "the look" and get all the props when they have little to no musical ability. Poor Alicia - I think she has the talent, but she slid quickly into the flava of the month when her management focused on her looks. I hope she works on her creativity and doesn't fall into just trying to be popular. Ashanti just needs to get lost :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by NASTYNUPE
Buddy if you think Jill doesn't have that look, then you must haven't seen India Arie. She's not your average girl on the video you know.

I put Janet and Brittany Spears in the same category. They can dance...they spend huge amounts of money on explosions, dancers, monkies, etc...BUT THEY CAN'T SING!!!

I need an artist on stage with a band ripping it up LIVE!!! I like to hear live versions of the songs. I can stay at home to hear someone lip sync.

Anita Baker send help!!!


You know what....Im starting to like you!!! :lmao:

[email protected]. India has a stage presense, but dont get her infront of a mic to talk. Ole Gurl will regress to childhood on you in a minute.

Did you say Brittney Spears????? Good Lord :rolleyes: You take away the titties, growing arse, and them dance moves and you have Annie Lennox.
Christina Aguilarra would destroy Britney!!!!
Pink send help!!!!
 
Originally posted by BandFan




Did you say Brittney Spears????? Good Lord :rolleyes: You take away the titties, growing arse, and them dance moves and you have Annie Lennox.

Annie Lennox! :eek:


ROTFLMBAO @ BandFan! :D

:lmao:

Eurhythmics, send help!!! :)

*thinking of the "Sweet Dreams" fanfare....*
 
Originally posted by Dtown Jag
I dun heard it all.....boy, Brittney Spears ain't got no dayum titties.

This child think she can sing too....:rolleyes:

Here best songs were "Oops" , "Hit me Baby" , and when she sang on Star Search.

Tatiana Ali send help. (speaking of which, where he sista at)
 
well

Originally posted by BandFan
Tatiana Ali send help. (speaking of which, where he sista at)

She's too busy cussin up a storm and talking about coochie on "The Brothers" :lmao:
 
OH...yeah. She did sound a HotMess trying to be Grown. If you dont sit your failed album/single arse down.:lmao:
 
Brittney being compared to Annie Lennox?!!!

Hell Naw. Annie Lennox can outsing any of the ladies mentioned today.

Jill Scott and Angie Stone are my favorites as far as new school artists. But as folks have said already these ladies are not eye candy in the commercial world we live in.


I am with Nastynupe on India Arie being overated along with all the rest of them and I do not believe I have heard that she can play more than a guitar. I sure would like to see if she can play trumpet and other instruments. For some reason I don't believe it.
 
I hate Ashanti's azz, too.....

Here's the realla.......

"MaryJane"

[Scarface whispering:]
I don't really remember feeling like this

Got this love formin' in my life - from this dame
And indeed took the form of life - it's a shame
How a man can fall in love with dreams - not afraid
Not afraid to let you up and leave
Do your thang MaryJane mess with all my folks - got 'em high
For the days that they were lost and broke - **** got 'em by
Only right was stopping it from props
Plus she from the block of only finer crops
Do your thang MaryJane

[chorus:]
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Happy just to hear your name
Do your than MaryJane
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary

When the world starts to stress you out - what you do?
Put a cancer stick up in your mouth - or grab a brew
Sold in stores but the fact remains is - they the blame
And the government's been taxin' that ( ) - gettin' paid
If it's taxable it's cool to smoke - kill or not
And the alcohol is killin' folks - true or not
Other people try to make you bad--but I know you not
When my situation's lookin' sad I know I got
A true friend in my time of need - all I need
Your natural you come from seeds - I decree
Makes me happy when I'm feelin' pain
Once again makes me happy just to hear your name
Do your thang MaryJane

[chorus:]
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Happy just to hear your name
MaryJane do your thang
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary

When you sad depressed and feeling strange - who you blame
Need some company to keep you sane - call her name
MaryJane I love you MaryJane - do your thang
You're all I need to get me through this thang - true to game
You aint never made me stash my thang - scratch the brain
Anything you've always kept me tame - and its plain
For me to see that you my everything - MaryJane
MaryJane helps to ease the brain - when you hang
Through the seasons you aint never change - stayed the same
Never seen what people seen in speed - you became
Naturally you everything we need - do the thang
Do your thang baby true indeed
Do your thang MaryJane

Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Happy just to hear your name
MaryJane do your thang
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary

Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary,
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary



That's the ENTIRE song....I know you rap-heads were feeling it, while you were reading........I wore that CD out!!!!
 
I never really got into India Aire. So I really can't conment on her.

I would disagree with you saying that Janet can't sing, bu we could go all day on that one.

Nice thread.
 



If you have the look plus the right money behind you...you can be platinum. Alicia Keys looks good. J Records is pumping all kind of money behind her. If she was on any other label, she'd be another paper weight. Blu Cantrell looks damn good(I have the issue of Black Tail too) and she can sing a little...but had no money behind her. Ashanti has Murder Inc money behind her.

Now I like that new chick Anne Marie...she's like a new school Mary J. Blige. But I doubt she'll blow up.
 
I agree.

It all boils down to the budget that these artist have.

Ashanti.... Look at her label. That is predominantly a rap record label. So, it has MONEY. All they did was find a pretty girl, that was just ok vocally. She's someone that could sing simple background lines. But the people over her label are the one's with the messed up minds. Real singing to them are Ashanti-like voices. You know....those kind that sing simple hooks in raps songs. Not necessarily vocally-challenged people like a Blu Cantrell. So, that's how and why a girl like her got that deal with that big budget to do a ton of things. I have her album, and I must say that it's the beats that's carrying her. She has sold over 2 million units already. Her stage presence is ridiculous. I saw her on the BET Awards. The only good thing was her look. In summation, her top spots on the charts should have been someone elses (like Tweet).

Mary J. Blige.... She was never a really great singer either. Her beats and song arrangements captured everyone. But the fact that she performs so well really won over alot of people. Since she layed that herb down, her voice has improved dramatically. I gotta give it to her.....she's really makin an effort to do better.

Jill Scott.... Jill has some talent. She's original with her material, and it really speaks to people. Her arrangements are off da hook. Someone mentioned her look. They were right. In the business, most companies pressure artist to either get rid of the weight or keep down the best they can. Jill's a big gurl, and that's just her. In her videos, she does remind me of a big kid. lol But oh gurl can still sing. However, I like her for her, and I appreciate her for bringing something original to the table.

Alicia Keys..... What's the big fuss over Alicia? I can hear a voice like hers anywhere. Nothing special about her. I guess she just got the right label to push her. She'll run circles around Ashanti in a live performance, but she can go sit down too.

India Arie.... Well, I would have to say that her material was different as well. I'll go ahead and give her props for presenting a somewhat different sound for neo-soul. I can say that part of the reason people went with Alicia over India was the look. I'm not saying that India is ugly, but that natural style just doesn't always stand out unless your music is making some REAL NOIZE. Maybe she'll come back stronger next time. But this girl does have a voice.
 
Originally posted by truthteller
I agree.

It all boils down to the budget that these artist have.

Ashanti.... Look at her label. That is predominantly a rap record label. So, it has MONEY. All they did was find a pretty girl, that was just ok vocally. She's someone that could sing simple background lines. But the people over her label are the one's with the messed up minds. Real singing to them are Ashanti-like voices. You know....those kind that sing simple hooks in raps songs. Not necessarily vocally-challenged people like a Blu Cantrell. So, that's how and why a girl like her got that deal with that big budget to do a ton of things. I have her album, and I must say that it's the beats that's carrying her. She has sold over 2 million units already. Her stage presence is ridiculous. I saw her on the BET Awards. The only good thing was her look. In summation, her top spots on the charts should have been someone elses (like Tweet).

Mary J. Blige.... She was never a really great singer either. Her beats and song arrangements captured everyone. But the fact that she performs so well really won over alot of people. Since she layed that herb down, her voice has improved dramatically. I gotta give it to her.....she's really makin an effort to do better.

Jill Scott.... Jill has some talent. She's original with her material, and it really speaks to people. Her arrangements are off da hook. Someone mentioned her look. They were right. In the business, most companies pressure artist to either get rid of the weight or keep down the best they can. Jill's a big gurl, and that's just her. In her videos, she does remind me of a big kid. lol But oh gurl can still sing. However, I like her for her, and I appreciate her for bringing something original to the table.

Alicia Keys..... What's the big fuss over Alicia? I can hear a voice like hers anywhere. Nothing special about her. I guess she just got the right label to push her. She'll run circles around Ashanti in a live performance, but she can go sit down too.

India Arie.... Well, I would have to say that her material was different as well. I'll go ahead and give her props for presenting a somewhat different sound for neo-soul. I can say that part of the reason people went with Alicia over India was the look. I'm not saying that India is ugly, but that natural style just doesn't always stand out unless your music is making some REAL NOIZE. Maybe she'll come back stronger next time. But this girl does have a voice.

I agree. I am mad that Jill hasn't made it as far as that broad Ashanti. Jill can SANG.
 
Originally posted by Diamante


I agree. I am mad that Jill hasn't made it as far as that broad Ashanti. Jill can SANG.

I agree. Singers like Ashanti and Sharissa are eye-candy just like BandFan stated. As sphis stated, computers can do a lot for a person's career. But that's how the business is today. I mean people like Jill Scott, Inda.Arie, And Erykah Badu are the reminder of the female R&B singers from back in the day like Diana Ross and THE QUEEN: Aretha Franklin. All most of these newbies talk about is basically their sex life and how bad it is or how good it is. Trust me, if Jill Scott, Angie Stone, India.Arie, and Ms. Badu had a 5'9" frame with a Coke bottle shape, then they, too would be on the overated list. Let Ashanti keep her "singing" voice, and take away her hair, mess up those beautiful legs up and her face a bit and what do you have? A never been. Pretty soon, women like these will be doing movies and if they are sub-par, we'll see them host a talk-show in about 2 years.
 
Now that's a song I ain't heard in a minute!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Taylor-Made'90
I hate Ashanti's azz, too.....

Here's the realla.......

"MaryJane"

[Scarface whispering:]
I don't really remember feeling like this

Got this love formin' in my life - from this dame
And indeed took the form of life - it's a shame
How a man can fall in love with dreams - not afraid
Not afraid to let you up and leave
Do your thang MaryJane mess with all my folks - got 'em high
For the days that they were lost and broke - **** got 'em by
Only right was stopping it from props
Plus she from the block of only finer crops
Do your thang MaryJane

[chorus:]
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Happy just to hear your name
Do your than MaryJane
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary

When the world starts to stress you out - what you do?
Put a cancer stick up in your mouth - or grab a brew
Sold in stores but the fact remains is - they the blame
And the government's been taxin' that ( ) - gettin' paid
If it's taxable it's cool to smoke - kill or not
And the alcohol is killin' folks - true or not
Other people try to make you bad--but I know you not
When my situation's lookin' sad I know I got
A true friend in my time of need - all I need
Your natural you come from seeds - I decree
Makes me happy when I'm feelin' pain
Once again makes me happy just to hear your name
Do your thang MaryJane

[chorus:]
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Happy just to hear your name
MaryJane do your thang
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary

When you sad depressed and feeling strange - who you blame
Need some company to keep you sane - call her name
MaryJane I love you MaryJane - do your thang
You're all I need to get me through this thang - true to game
You aint never made me stash my thang - scratch the brain
Anything you've always kept me tame - and its plain
For me to see that you my everything - MaryJane
MaryJane helps to ease the brain - when you hang
Through the seasons you aint never change - stayed the same
Never seen what people seen in speed - you became
Naturally you everything we need - do the thang
Do your thang baby true indeed
Do your thang MaryJane

Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Happy just to hear your name
MaryJane do your thang
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary

Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary,
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary
Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary



That's the ENTIRE song....I know you rap-heads were feeling it, while you were reading........I wore that CD out!!!!

Kazaa, here I come!
 
Originally posted by NastyNupe
I put Janet and Brittany Spears in the same category. They can dance...they spend huge amounts of money on explosions, dancers, monkies, etc...BUT THEY CAN'T SING!!!


Finally, somebody see the light about Janet Jackson's talent. She can at least carry a tune, but she's not a dynamite singer like a Patti Labelle or a Cheryl Lynn type of singers. I listen to Janet because the music sounds good. (How about those former football players from Michigan State, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis with that musical knowledge.)
Playing live in front of a crowd is almost a lost art today. It takes time and practice for musicians and singers to get their FEEL down to really put on a good performance live. YOU CANNOT DO IT OVERNIGHT!!. Prime example of a group that has a dynamite live show is TEENA MARIE and her band. Hey, for me Teena Marie ain't white. That mickyficky got to much Funk and Soul to be white.
 
I agree. Singers like Ashanti and Sharissa are eye-candy just like BandFan stated.

Never use Sharissa and eye-candy in the same sentence again. That's like saying Khia and beautiful!!! :)

India Arie send help!!!
 
Send Pink

Now this child is the Truth she sings HER music, she has a strong voice, sings with a band at every show, and her duet with Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, MISERY is great, I feel her pain:p
 
Originally posted by NASTYNUPE
Name one other instrument India Arie plays other than guitar.....


How many instruments does one have to play in order to be considered talented? Jimi Hendrix only played guitar. Certainly, you won't say that he had no talent.....will ya?

Also, although I think Alica Keys is overrated too, let's look at one thing. The Sista is young as hell. That's reflected in her music. I'll give her credit for doing one thing that many artist in R&B are not doing enough of these days.....she plays an instrument. Being a musican and music lover (KKPsi in da house), I'll give her bonus points for that any day. Most of the cats and chicks in the music game these days have no talent. This young Sista does. I think once she gets a few more years under her belt, she will produce more enjoyable work.
 
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