MSU has had trouble scheduling teams


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Dan Mullen says MSU has had trouble scheduling teams

Hugh Kellenberger, The Clarion-Ledger. 12:25 p.m. CDT April 30, 2014


STARKVILLE -- Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen said the school will have to keep plugging away on finding major conference opponents willing to schedule the school.

The Southeastern Conference announced Sunday a shift to a scheduling format that requires every school to play at least one team from one of the four other major conferences. That traditionally has not happened as much at Mississippi State, though the Bulldogs did lead off the 2013 season in a neutral site game against Oklahoma State.

"We never got a lot of interest in teams wanting to play home-and-homes with us, but we're going to continue to try to do so," Mullen said.

The Bulldogs do not play a major conference school this season, though Mullen argued the Southern Miss season-opener matters a great deal.

"I know to everybody in the state of Mississippi is such a huge game and a series that hasn't been played in a while," Mullen said. "I think we've tried to be pro-active."


http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...an-mullen-mississippi-state-schedule/8516389/
 
I believe other FBS schools don't want to take the risk of losing to a middle to lower of the pac SEC West program...........too risky for them and the ranking game.
 



JROCK said:
I believe other FBS schools don't want to take the risk of losing to a middle to lower of the pac SEC West program...........too risky for them and the ranking game.
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Basically.

And if they beat MSU it doesn't mean a whole lot.

The risk of losing is too high and the reward of winning is too low.
 
JROCK said:
I believe other FBS schools don't want to take the risk of losing to a middle to lower of the pac SEC West program...........too risky for them and the ranking game.
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They especially do not want to travel to Starkville. It's the home and home thing as well. I am sure USC would welcome Ms State to Los Angeles or OU would welcome them to Norman. But neither wants to do a return game is the issue. Or go there first. Those schools are afraid of losing to them if they have to go play them at their place. I would imagine they are comfortable just doing a one and done with a payout to Ms State for coming. But that is an insult to a SEC school getting dealt with like that.

They will be able to get some schools that are mid to lower tier in the Big 12, ACC, PAC 12, Big Ten to do a home and home. It would be beneficial for those schools. Say a Colorado or Purdue or a Cal to do home and home with them. But those conferences big dogs are not willing.
 
I don't think the mid- to lower-tier schools are willing either.

Most of those conferences already play a nine-game conference schedule. Of the remaining three games, why add a SEC school? Even a mid- to lower-level SEC school?

MSU is tricky too because they are usually better than their record. They happen to be a weaker school in the division with Alabama, Auburn, LSU and Texas A&M. That would equate to four automatic losses for most teams in the country. Because of that it's often hard to know how good MSU really is compared to teams in other conferences. As Rice found out in January. Rice fans were talking about they were "CUSA champions" and were only playing a "middling SEC team". Got beat like a drum 44-7 by that little weak 6-6 "middling SEC team".

These ADs aren't stupid. It's just not worth it for them to play a team like MSU. Why add another probable loss when everybody is trying to get to a bowl game?
 
SUJagFan said:
I don't think the mid- to lower-tier schools are willing either.

Most of those conferences already play a nine-game conference schedule. Of the remaining three games, why add a SEC school?
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...that ain't paying $1M+ for the trip.
 
If they were so concerned about it, why were they against the 9-game format?
They can find teams to play... They probably haven't been looking. They just had a series with Tech a few years ago so they just need to put in some effort. These schools have been only trying to play Troy State, Memphis, etc... There are plenty of Big Ten and ACC schools who would love to play MS State. It's not like they all pack the house.

For a school like MS State, now they have to TRY. It's makes no difference to UGAg, Florida, South Carolina, etc.. because they have built in rivalries they play yearly anyway.
 
SUJagFan said:
I don't think the mid- to lower-tier schools are willing either.

Most of those conferences already play a nine-game conference schedule. Of the remaining three games, why add a SEC school? Even a mid- to lower-level SEC school?

MSU is tricky too because they are usually better than their record. They happen to be a weaker school in the division with Alabama, Auburn, LSU and Texas A&M. That would equate to four automatic losses for most teams in the country. Because of that it's often hard to know how good MSU really is compared to teams in other conferences. As Rice found out in January. Rice fans were talking about they were "CUSA champions" and were only playing a "middling SEC team". Got beat like a drum 44-7 by that little weak 6-6 "middling SEC team".

These ADs aren't stupid. It's just not worth it for them to play a team like MSU. Why add another probable loss when everybody is trying to get to a bowl game?
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I saw a lot of that talk from Rice on Twitter about how they were gonna drag MSU. Most of us knew what was gonna happen and it did.

Even on a good year 8-9 wins (maybe 10) is probably all that MSU is gonna get. Still most of these schools ain't dumb. They don't wanna deal with them cowbells and stand a drubbing against them
 
In_The_662 said:
I saw a lot of that talk from Rice on Twitter about how they were gonna drag MSU. Most of us knew what was gonna happen and it did.

Even on a good year 8-9 wins (maybe 10) is probably all that MSU is gonna get. Still most of these schools ain't dumb. They don't wanna deal with them cowbells and stand a drubbing against them
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Yeah folks tend to underrate Miss. State alot because of them having losses to Auburn, Alabama, Texas A&M, and LSU. But when you look at how they performed you noticed that they gave all 4 schools a hard time(they self-destructed against LSU in the 4th quarter).They even gave Oklahoma State some problems, but just couldn't score to put the pressure on them. With LSU and Alabama struggling to find a capable QB, and Texas A&M having to break in a new QB, this could be Miss. State's chance to finally get over the hump.
 
SUJagFan said:
MSU is tricky too because they are usually better than their record. They happen to be a weaker school in the division with Alabama, Auburn, LSU and Texas A&M.
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Trick as all hell.......That game always worry the hell out of me when they play LSU. :lol: :emlaugh: I have seen some really good physical MSU ball clubs but just had problems putting it all together.
 
The Founder said:
This explains the change in the LSU/Arkansas game from the Thanksgiving weekend.
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LSU is going to be playing Texas A&M every other Thanksgiving. I am not sure how the scheduling with Arkansas is going to look like in the future. Normally, LSU plays Arkansas the Friday after Thanksgiving on CBS.
 



The war of words continues to grow over the SEC’s future football scheduling format. Several Pac-12 coaches expressed strong opinions over the format, which calls for eight conference games.

Currently, the Pac-12 and the Big 12 are the only two conferences that play a nine-game conference schedule. The Big Ten will move to nine games beginning in 2016. The ACC will reportedly make a decision on their future schedules later this month.

Speaking on the Pac-12 teleconference today, Stanford head coach David Shaw had the strongest words on the SEC’s choice to continue playing eight games.

“We all need to play by the same rules. Don’t back down from playing your own conference,” Shaw said.

That’s not the first time Shaw has blasted the SEC. Back in November, he said the Pac-12 had the toughest schedule to navigate partly due to the SEC’s November “cupcakes.”

“You can write that — cupcakes,” Shaw told CBSSports.com.


http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/05/pac-12-coaches-rip-sec-football-scheduling-format/
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
So what y'all feel about the SEC going to a 9 game mandate.
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I think the SEC playing 8 games and 4 creampuffs is a tougher schedule than a 9-game schedule in the Big10 or PAC12.

The only reason those other conferences want the SEC to go to a 9-game schedule is because they know it would give them a better chance of winning a championship. But, let's not pretend that a SEC 9-game schedule would be equal to a B1G or PAC 12 9-game schedule.

It might happen, but I think the SEC will wait to see how this playoff system and the SEC Network will work out. When they change, if they change, it will be to their benefit and not those other conferences.
 
BG said:
The war of words continues to grow over the SEC’s future football scheduling format. Several Pac-12 coaches expressed strong opinions over the format, which calls for eight conference games.

Currently, the Pac-12 and the Big 12 are the only two conferences that play a nine-game conference schedule. The Big Ten will move to nine games beginning in 2016. The ACC will reportedly make a decision on their future schedules later this month.

Speaking on the Pac-12 teleconference today, Stanford head coach David Shaw had the strongest words on the SEC’s choice to continue playing eight games.

“We all need to play by the same rules. Don’t back down from playing your own conference,” Shaw said.

That’s not the first time Shaw has blasted the SEC. Back in November, he said the Pac-12 had the toughest schedule to navigate partly due to the SEC’s November “cupcakes.”

“You can write that — cupcakes,” Shaw told CBSSports.com.


http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/05/pac-12-coaches-rip-sec-football-scheduling-format/
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Does it really matter if they played 8 or 9 games?
 
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Tigerpride said:
Ya'll act like the SEC is prime rib from top to bottom. :comfused:
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I don't think that's it and some like Shaw don't want to understand the new format. It is 6-1-1 + 1 team from a major conference in the future. You couple that with a championship game and it is an elite schedule.

LSU for example has 6 divisions this year + 1 Permanent Foe (Florida) + 1 BCS (Wisconsin) + Possibly the SEC Championship. That is enough heat.

Georgia has 6 divisions +1 Permanant (Auburn) + 1 BCS (Clemson...{though you could count GT}) and a possible SEC Championship Game.

Bama 6 divisions + 1 Permanent (Tenn. which I don't like) + 1 BCS (VA Tech) + a possible SEC Championship Game.

etc.......
 
JROCK said:
I don't think that's it and some like Shaw don't want to understand the new format. It is 6-1-1 + 1 team from a major conference in the future. You couple that with a championship game and it is an elite schedule.

LSU for example has 6 divisions this year + 1 Permanent Foe (Florida) + 1 BCS (Wisconsin) + Possibly the SEC Championship. That is enough heat.

Georgia has 6 divisions +1 Permanant (Auburn) + 1 BCS (Clemson...{though you could count GT}) and a possible SEC Championship Game.

Bama 6 divisions + 1 Permanent (Tenn. which I don't like) + 1 BCS (VA Tech) + a possible SEC Championship Game.

etc.......
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Come on now, it's not Bama's fault that Tennessee is sad right now. They are one of the winningest programs in the country, and ran the SEC along with Florida in the 90s and early 2000s. They will come back soon since James Franklin is no longer at Vanderbilt.
 
number1 said:
Come on now, it's not Bama's fault that Tennessee is sad right now. They are one of the winningest programs in the country, and ran the SEC along with Florida in the 90s and early 2000s. They will come back soon since James Franklin is no longer at Vanderbilt.
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Yes, I know but don't have to like it. :lol: :emlaugh:
 
Don't think Miss. State will be able to get a PAC 10 team to come to that cow poke town! Ole Miss doesn't seem to have that problem.
 
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